Clippers Are Talking Deal for Knicks' Iman Shumpert

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The Los Angeles Clippers and New York Knicks are discussing a deal centered around guard Iman Shumpert, league sources told Yahoo Sports. In proposed deals, the Clippers would send the Knicks a package that includes point guard Darren Collison for Shumpert and point guard Raymond Felton, sources told Yahoo Sports. The Knicks are shopping Shumpert hard, and the Clippers have been receptive to listening on a potential deal, league sources said. The discussions and proposed players are still fluid, league sources said, and a deal isn't close to being reached. Nevertheless, Shumpert is an object of interest for the Clippers and the recent....

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jarca
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I am torn about this. I don't want to trade collison. He took a paycut to come here and win. I'd rather trade our overpaid pieces like barnes and dudley

cleepers
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So who makes the numbers work? Barnes?

Silasie
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Very interesting. Obviously we don't really want to get rid of Collison but as I've said before you can't get something for nothing.

clippyclip
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I like this. Part of the reason our secondary interior defense looks so bad is because our wings get burned. Felton I think will be a downgrade, but Shump could help a lot there. Of course, the secondary bigs ARE terrible, so it's only going to help so much. We still need another big. Maybe the Knicks will throw in Tyson Chandler for Mullens. Very Happy

CapsNClips
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Holy ****!

We have to do this. I'm not a fan of Raymond Fatfuck, but Shump is a stud and he'd flourish with a real coach and real team.

cleepers
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Adding Mullens and Green makes the salaries add up sufficiently... would the Knicks be that stupid?

Please be that stupid, Knicks.

CapsNClips
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That must be a rhetorical question.

clip_joint
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Not a big fan of this trade I like shump but losing collision would hurt our chemistry. And this trade doesn't solve our real problem of acquiring a real big man that can play valuable backup minutes. I say no to this trade

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Haven't watched Shumpert in the pros...does he play SF because he is listed as a SG and I thought that was what he played at Ga Tech. Rebounding numbers are bad so that suggest he is playing SG with Knicks. If he is a SG, where does he get minutes unless this means JJ is out for the rest of the season?

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Throw Kmart in as well and I'll do it

Kmart, Felton and shumpert for Collison and Mullens, green

cleepers
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I can hear Doc now... "Byron Mullens is like Bargnani at 10% of the cost... he's a bargain!"

EDIT: Just realized how hilariously inappropriate it is that 'Bargnani' is almost an anagram of 'bargain' Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_16

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Would be sad for Collision who lost money to go to a potential winner team.

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Update: Knicks, Clippers Discuss Iman Shumpert, Ray Felton For Darren Collison, Reggie Bullock Deal

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I would be sad too, but atleast he gets to start on a potential playoffs Teams

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Ooh... I like this one!

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kg8r79l

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See I was all for it, but adding Reggie to Collison, I just don't know about that.

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Good. Very Happy

Akclipps
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Wtf I'm not trading dc for this crap!! We need dc for the playoffs and need dudley out of here

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I really don't even want Felton, just bring back Wayns to hold down the back up guard role. Atleast chemistry wouldn't fade.

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Am i missing the point here? Don't we need SF and Center help? What do we need with another SG and PG at this point. Granted with JJs injury, but still.

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I think he can play 2 and 3.

Icecoldclipper
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Doc better not throw in Reggie or he is pure trash. That is a massive over pay for Shumpert we should be getting more for taking Felton.

JQuick32
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Felton sucks as a starter, but he might be better as a backup. Shumpert would be a good fit though. Hopefully we can get the Knicks to throw in K-Mart too!

JQuick32
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Shump can play both the 2 and the 3.

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That's awful for Collison, took a huge pay cut to be a Clipper. Rather just give them Bullock

JQuick32
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A Clippers insider on Twitter is saying that the deal will actually be Collison and Mullens for Shumpert and Beno Udrih, FWIW.

Andrew818
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If that is the deal than I would defiantly do it.We still have a open spot to sign a big to a 10 day contract.Not the perfect situation but Shump is the athletic defender we need to guard Lance Stevenson,DWade,Paul George,Westbrook,etc.

jarca
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Jj has had the health of a 36 years old Billups. So I think doc just wanted a 2/3 combo

Icecoldclipper
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I hope the Clipper insider is right or I'm going to rage. Taking on Felton who makes 4 mil each of the next 2 years would need heavy compensation for DC basically being an expiring.

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Noooooo! Not Reggie!

I like the Collison/Mullens for Shump/Udrih trade much more.

JQuick32
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According to Chad Ford, the Bullock-for-Felton part of the rumored deal doesn't work under the cap and (unsurprisingly) the dumbass Knicks are pushing for it without knowing the rules.

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I don't want Felton unless there are picks coming we keep Bullock get Shumpert and their bigs.

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I'd give up one of Collison or Bullock for Shumpert, but not both. I'd only take Felton if we were dumping Barnes and Mullens in process.

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Very well put, I agree.

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i like shumpert, he's the long athletic taller defender to guard the conleys, parkers, curry's, westbrooks of the NBA. Not to mention he can guard the Hardens and Ellis's of the NBA.

Also he can create his own shot and get to the rim.

I think also come playoff time he has the potential to be more valuable to the team than Collison.

FreaKeyy
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Wow Darren came here to win. But I always tell myself, NBA is a business, so don't get attached to players.

Icecoldclipper
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Felton's contract is horrible for a team that we have we need money going to other positions other than PG with Paul. PG back ups should be 1mil contracts or rookie deals.

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Damn! Damn! Damn!

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How does this help fix the SF need? I guess nobody wants to take Dudley or Barnes, which is expected, but trading Bullock would hurt depth at that position. In addition, Collison has been a pretty solid player for the Clippers, so overall I'm not so sure about this trade proposal. I suppose that Shumpert would have helped last night as Doc had CP3 & DC in for a good chunk of the 4th, whereas a taller guard like Shumpert would have helped. Plus Shumper is a solid rebounder, though a less than 40% FG shooter, but a decent from deep at 34.7% this season.

So I guess if Doc is going to go with a smaller line-up much of the time, this could be a solid deal. Added a poll- would you pull the trigger on this trade?

JQuick32
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Are we going to make ANY deals or is Doc just going to keep shooting everything down? It's plainly obvious that this roster isn't winning anything come playoff time....

Agent0
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Not so much this. Shumpert is closer to Thabo Sefolosha on offense than a player that can consistently create his own shot and get to the rim. Actually Dudley even this year is a better offensive player than him.

Shumpert would be acquired really for his defense if this were to happen, he doesn't really score much or create much.

ClippersDA
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I don't get a warm and fuzzy vibe from this roster and think a shakeup can only help.

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Shump and Felton makes about $6M combined this season while Collison makes about $2M so the Clips would have to add either Barnes or Dudley and maybe one other player to make it work. I would definitely not include Reggie in that trade.

Shump and Udrih for Collison + filler makes more sense salary wise. If the Knicks are really trying to dump Felton, Clips needs to ask for a draft pick to go along with him.

Collison has been good this season and filled in nicely for CP3. He also took a hometown discount to play for the Clips so I'd hate to see him go. However, Shump is under contract for 2 more seasons at a good price so he can be a nice piece for the team in the long run. He can also flourish under Doc and it seems like Doc can get the most out of his players. Except Dudley and Mullens that is lol.

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I would just prefer a deal where Felton is not involved, too many PG/SG's unless Shumpert will be played at SF which is weird.

tense2
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Hopefully we just don't make "any" deal just to make one. We need to try and make one at our positions of need, SF and a back up C.

Unfortunately, it's going to be very difficult with what we have as trade bait and our current salary (tax) restrictions.

clips15deep
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While I think we need to make some type of a trade, I just don't think DC for Shump will help very much.

cleepers
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We'd need a backup point, and Felton could fill that role. Only thing is, his contract stinks. If the knicks would take some our dead weight back... any 2 of Mullens/Barnes/Dudley I'd be prepared to absorb Felton.

tense2
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He can play SF when Doc goes small, but the majority of Shumpert time is at the SG spot. Really need a real SF and a back up C.

EwanB
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I'm personally a fan of this deal. Shump provides the defense at 2 that redick and crawford don't. Not a massive fan of felton but think he'd do us ok behind CP and doc

But point taken that SF and C are our main weaknesses and maybe that's what we should pursue

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