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What do you guys think our playoff rotation will look like?

I know it's not a final product yet, but I think we are getting really close. With Big Baby signing I think this might be getting close. I think if Granger is bought out we will get him. Don't think he is Lebron's biggest fan, and think he would like to play with a great Point guard. I'm sure he's aware of the possibility of becoming a starter here.

CP3/DC

JJ/Jamal

Granger/MB

Blake/Big Baby/Hedo or maybe Ivan (I doubt it, but think there is a chance depending on the next few games)

DJ/Big Baby

I think Hollins and Hedo could play situational minutes depending on the opponent cases of foul trouble. If Doc feels we need length then maybe Hollins and Davis, if he wants more ball movement maybe Hedo and Davis. The key is that it will most likely never be Hedo and Hollins.

Barnes and Dudley can also play based on situation, need and opponent. This depends more on Dudley raising his play in the next few weeks and maintaining some type of consistency.

I also think Bullock can get some slight minutes depending on if we are having trouble in certain situations, but I think this will be sparingly if any. There is always the chance that he starts playing very well the next few weeks and Doc feels the need to play him more, but I doubt that he gets that much of a chance.

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Not sure if getting Granger is a good thing or not. If it was the beginning of the season, I'd take him for sure. However there's only around 30 games left in the season, and it's very difficult to develop good chemistry during the season. It's different when you sign a backup player mid-season since they don't affect the team as much, but making Granger a starter would be too risky. For now I prefer starting Barnes, backup is Granger if he signs, then Bullock, then Dudley.

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That looks good though I am not sure about our SFs just yet.

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If that ends up being the rotation then we will be tough to stop. The key is if Granger get back to being a quality player. So far he hasn't looked good this season but I think getting consistent minutes as a starter would do wonders for his game. He will never be what he was but I could see him having a few years in the 14pts, 4rb range left in his tank.

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I not really worried about chemistry because Granger would be primarily a spot up shooter. Those types of guys are easy to bring into the fold without ruining chemistry. We have also had such a big lack of cohesiveness at the 3 spot that almost anything is better than what we have right now. Hopefully Barnes is coming around but it is too early to count on that being the case to pass up on Granger if he hits the market.

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I def wouldn't start granger at this point.

MB would be the starter IMO, but Granger would def

eat up his minutes coming off the bench.

As poorly as MB has been this season he is actually

doing well the last few games. Hopefully he can keep it up.

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It'll be kind of a waste if our starting SF is just a spot up shooter. I prefer Barnes because he's decent playing without the ball, knows when to cut to the basket. He's average defensively, but I think the hard fouls he commits would make opponents second guess about driving to the rim. I don't know if Granger brings more value to the team overall.

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Granger is way more talented than barnes and Dudley. For the sake of building a relationship, if he chooses us miraculously he needs to start.

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With CP, Blake and Jamal dominating the ballhandling duties we don't need a small forward that is also creating with the ball. Based on the way this team is built we are better off with a sf that works off the ball. That doesn't mean that he is strictly a spot up shooter. Granger can do the same things as Barnes but he has been better at those things in the past. Who knows if that is still the case though after his knee problems.

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Granger will open things up.

ClipperPostman
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You don't just throw someone in the starting lineup based

on Talent, unless they are a bonafied starter.

Granger of old Yes, Granger Today no. He doesn't start

in Indiana, and wouldn't start anywhere this season.

ClippersDA
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Neither would barnes or Dudley. Id risk it.

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He doesn't starting Indiana because they have one of the best sf's in the league playing ahead of him. That doesn't mean that he wouldn't start for some other teams if given the opportunity.

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You start Danny Granger.

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IF he comes here....you let Doc decide that. wink

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The point is the one advantage we have is that he would start. Even a hobbled granger is better than our current small forwards.

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I'm just asking what you guys think the playoff rotation is going into the playoffs?

I don't know if Philly even buys him out, and think that if he is a guy that could fit very well if we did sign him. I'm counting Dudley out for the most part. To be honest he hasn't been playing that well this year, and don't think he has fully recovered. I also think his ego had to have taken a major hit. When he went down he was the guy in Indy, then he came back and was the possible sixth man. I think coming into a known situation can help calm nerves and feelings, and knowing that anything else you bring is bonus. It would probably be better than being the favorite child of the family then returning as the uncle that has only stories of his hay day.

I know it's tough to just come in and fit in, but I do like that he comes from a defensive minded coach. Even if he's not the best defensive player he knows it's a priority. Love his competitive fire.

Anyways if you guys don't like the idea, what do you see as the rotation going into the playoffs? Are we going in with a 9 man rotation?

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Yep...if Doc thinks so.

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Seems like you guys play a lot of nba2k. Unfortunately there

is something called real life.

Players have to fit into a system. We have one that works.

Saying Granger should "Start" is obsurd before you even see how

he plays for the clippers first. Nothing in his play this year or the previous

2 years where he has been mostly hurt could one know how good Granger

is today.

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What's weird is in your OP you named 13 players. I'm a fan of 8 player rotations in the

PO. 9 players maximum in certain matchup situations. Say for instance a team

is killing you with small ball, you might need to make adjustments and play a 9th player

just to fit that particular matchup.

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I would play almost any qualified 3 over Dudley or barnes. Our system isn't perfect and that position is a major weakness. Granger at least has a PER in double digits. Our current starter options do not.

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Looks like Granger is looking at SA or Miami only (if bought out). I think we should go after Earl Clark. More of a real possibility.

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Looks like Granger is looking at SA or Miami only (if bought out). I think we should go after Earl Clark. More of a real possibility.
Well its most likely Metta goes to Miami or....

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ClippersDA
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Earl isn't really a 3. A tweener but more of a 4.

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Like Postman said, the player has to fit the system. He can ball handle, create his own shots, but none of that matters, since CP3 or Jamal will be ball dominate most of the time. Not to mention Blake wants the ball as well. Just because a player had very good seasons before doesn't mean it'll happen on a new team, especially when he's not even going to be a top 4 option when JJ comes back. Granger got great individual talent, but coming into a new team mid-season is like playing pickup ball. We're not going to fully utilize his strengths. Further more, he hasn't played half as well as he did before the injury.

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This is talking in circles but my overarching point is that I have more confidence putting him in with 20

Regular season games to go than I do riding Dudley or barnes. Any opportunity to upgrade talent is a must. I Love his game and I think his skill

Sets are well suited to our starting lineup. I know he isn't his old self. But neither is Dudley and barnes until the last game hasn't come close to last year.

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I think the playoff starting lineup will be exactly what we see now. At this point we are running our best lineup from last season the one everyone wanted to start the playoffs. We are starting our best defensive lineup that is played together the most and been the most effective the past season and half.

I think after that it becomes about match ups and right now that would be the Blazers so Big baby,Collison,Dudley,and Hollins would fill it out

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What about JJ?

fullcourt
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What about him? he is becoming this years Chauncey at this point I don't we should be waiting on him but instead proceed forward and then reintegrate him if he is ready by the playoffs. I'm not saying we can't use him but this team has to be preparing for the playoffs

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Who would've guessed at the beginning of the season that Dudley would only be our 3rd or 4th option at the SF? I completely bought into what Ralph and Mike were saying about Dudley being a "good fit" for this team. Man, were we wrong.

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Matt Barnes isn't an NBA caliber starter, don't let his last few games fool you. He's pretty mediocre at everything except he has a knack for not being intimidated by the moment. But that doesn't change the fact that he's not very skilled.

Let him be the energy guy he used to be in the second unit, BTW this is assuming we get Granger

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If we somehow get granger, the rotation is pretty clear to me:

DJ, Blake, and Davis get the majority of the 4/5 minutes, according to matchups, with Turkoglu playing as a 4th big. Hollins would be our IR big man and a source of 6 fouls. Granger starts at small forward as a 3 and D player. Dudley or Barnes backs him up, really depends on who gets hot at the right time. At the moment, that looks like Barnes.

At the 2, I'd start Crawford. I think with Paul and Blake being such great playmakers, having a scoring guard would be great with the starters. Obviously Paul starts across from him.

I think Collison is a score first guy, as is Glen Davis. JJ and his off the ball play would fit in perfectly to creat havoc when paired with Collison and one of Davis or Griffin.

Starters have shooting at the 1-4, + defense at the 1,3 and 5, play making at the 1,2, and 4, and rebounding at the 1 and 3-5. Backups have a scoring wing and big man, with shooting at the 2, and + defense (against the bench) at the 2,3, and 5.

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theoretically, Dudley should have been a good fit for the team. He's a great shooter and a decent defender. As the 5th option for the starters, he should be getting open looks for days. Not Ralph and Mikes fault he can't hit the ocean from a boat this season.

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I don't know what you guys see in Earl Clark. It's like you want a new addition just to make a move. I'd rather play Barnes and Dudley over Earl Clark..

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At the 4 spot?

Clarke would be our PF off the bench. Big Baby would be our Center. Both players can play the PF/C spot.

I wouldn't be comfortable with Clark as our SF unless only for defensive purposes.

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That's why I'm so disappointed. It all made so much sense. It seems like Dudley is just one of those guys who can't play on a contending team in a big market (I sound like a Laker fan lol).

He's not only having a bad shooting year, but he's also averaging a career low 2.2 rebounds. Two years ago in Phoenix, he averaged 4.6 rebounds. Those extra boards would be so helpful right now.

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Hedo would be situational, not necessarily the part of the standard playoff rotation. In case more ball movement is needed and or foul trouble or extra rest. I also listed Big Baby behind DJ as well as Blake, thinking we would have to stagger their minutes. Big Baby coming in earlier for DJ, DJ coming in for Blake or something to that effect.

CP-DC

Jamal-JJ (either way works, but would like to see if DC and JJ can be productive)

Granger-MB

Blake-Big Baby

DJ-Big Baby

I think most of our players outside of Hollins can get situational minutes, but as of right now I would prefer to keep Bullock and Dudley out of the mix if we can get a decent Granger. Before I get blasted, I like Bullock; but think he still needs to gain some comfort within the system.

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I've wanted us to try that all year. The only thing that has me hesitating on that idea is the hot starts JJ has gotten to in so many games. I wouldn't mind if we started JJ and ride those hot streaks then continue to play him a bit more with Collison as the game progresses, and give Jamal to ride it out a bit more with the starters. Let Jamal finish the game or you can ride the hot hand.

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Jamal has been amazing lately but we need JJ to start the game because of his fast starts.

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