Which Team Should the Clippers Try to Face in First Round (P. 2)

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FightOnRon
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Wow,I am surprised but we seem to be their biggest nightmare.

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I'm hoping the standings end up looking like this:

#1Thunder Vs #8 Memphis .. Memphis would either beat them, or wear them down.

#2 San Antonio Vs #7 Dallas ... Would be a great Texas battle that could be an upset win for the mavs

#3 Portland Vs # 6 Golden State or Phoenix .. I think one of these teams will be knocked out of the playoffs but either one will be a good match with the blazers

#4 Clippers Vs #5 Rockets ... We obviously have their number, our team is too deep and we are more athletic than them .

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Once again... nobody is saying any team is a "cakewalk".

And no, Houston's 0-3 record against us and overall record does not suggest that they are capable of beating us... it "suggests" that they are capable of beating many teams, but would probably prefer to avoid the Clippers since we appear to hold the key to beating them.

Memphis and GSW have beaten us 2/3 times each... better than their overall records against the rest of the league, which "suggests" that they present particular matchup problems against a better overall team.

Personally, I don't think we have any "demons", but that's not to say it wouldn't be better for our guys to win a series in 4 or 5 instead of 6 or 7 and come out injured in the process. Both MEM and GSW have employed dirty tactics to beat us in the recent past and I believe that they would have no reservations about doing so again. Would we be favored to beat them? ...absolutely. Would it be a war of attrition that might damage our chances in SUBSEQUENT rounds? ...probably.

There's a reason that great coaches like Pop and Doc talk about health being the number one factor going into the playoffs. It stands to reason that the longer a team can maintain good health during the playoffs will only increase their chances of going further.

If you can't comprehend the concept of good and bad matchups that's fine, but there's no need to bash the entire thread because others disagree with your opinion. Considering how "stupid" and "weak" you think this topic is, you sure don't seem to have a problem chiming in with your own 2 cents.

If i don't throw in 2c how else am i going to break it to ya that you don't get to choose who to face in the playoffs so ramble about 'ideal' matchups is a waste of time and physical dirty play is not reserved for certain teams, its the playoffs and every team is going to bang us and do w/e it takes to win

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That may well be the way things go down. With all these injuries we have had we are certain to not gain ground into the top 3, but we will be good enough to hold on to the 4th spot with the additions of Granger and Davis.

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We also have Dallas's number as well so I mean high as 2nd against Dallas wouldn't be as bad either

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and meanwhile GSW/MEM/PHX fans are reading this thread and salivating because some clipper folk are scared af to meet them in the playoffs roll roll roll

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Of course no one has a choice of whom they face (except like in 2006 when we tanked a couple of games so we could play Denver in the first round). NO one here is afraid of what any team could do to us in a fair, normally brutal game,its when they go above and beyond to hurt on purpose , rather then to play a playoff type game and get hurt accidentally. Like when Cousins tells Zbo to make sure he injures one of our guys in the first round. I don't know the GS or PHX are that brutal, they are more match-up trouble (but who knows with Baby aboard,that will really change things). So I think what people or more fixated with is what would get us past the first round, besides a slug fest with a team like MEM. Sure,we can beat them, but we want to get to the 2nd round with most of our limbs attached.

But your right,the title of this thread is illogical. Who should we face is wherever we end up,not like there is much choice.

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The only thing that legitimately scares me is health. If everyone is healthy we can beat anyone.

ClippersDA
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Can I just saw hat Portland has the most gimmicky offense and most porous defense. How are they ahead of us?

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BREAKING NEWS: Lakers are winning, and doing us a favor too, they're beating the blazers so that'll be helpful.

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I was just watching the scores on NBA and was extremely happy about that.

CP3Best
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I'm very surprised the lakers can beat anybody, but they have Xavier Henry back, that guy Torched us in the season opener.

CP3Best
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Wesley Johnson just beat the Blazers, Blaze fans are really mad...

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I think this is good too. 6-7 is up in the air, but I think I want our 2nd round opponent to face Memphis first.

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The Blazers offense is superb. Not gimmicky at all. They do have porous defense however. They have frankly overachieved a bit due to doing well in the clutch and hot shooting.

Great offensive team, below average defensive team.

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Almost every shot they take is a three or a long usually contested 2...although they do have a better offense than warriors. It does make me appreciate our offense - we can score in the post, midrange or beyond the arc (although the last thing is our least consistent). I think warriors and blazers are one dimensional offensively

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kjavis wrote:
If i don't throw in 2c how else am i going to break it to ya that you don't get to choose who to face in the playoffs so ramble about 'ideal' matchups is a waste of time and physical dirty play is not reserved for certain teams, its the playoffs and every team is going to bang us and do w/e it takes to win

Actually, as Ron mentioned... it IS possible to have some control as to who you'll meet in round 1... or were you not around for the '06 stretch run?

Personally, I don't think that talking about who is the better matchup is any more of a waste of time than talking about anything else on a fan forum, but if that's really how you feel, why the f*ck do you keep commenting on this thread? Seems to me like this subject (and your self-inflated opinions on it) are VERY important to you.

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and meanwhile GSW/MEM/PHX fans are reading this thread and salivating because some clipper folk are scared af to meet them in the playoffs roll roll roll

Scared? ...hardly.

Did I not mention that I am very confident that we would beat all 3 of those teams? Are All-Stars "scared" of losing to street-ballers? ...No, but they prefer to save their talents for the big game, because they don't want some punk undercutting them and breaking an ankle... they have bigger fish to fry.

You have your opinion. I have mine. The difference is, I don't pout like a brat and dismiss the whole conversation as a "waste of time" when the majority of people disagree with me.

kjavis
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No mention, your story seems to change with every post as you see fit and bout the only thing right is that its my opinion vs yours except there's no need to be a smart a$$ and resort to name calling just to get your point across

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Rockets or Blazers. Get them out the way immediately.

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I have this weird desire to get Memphis in the first round and show how much better we really are. The only thing that would bother me is how draining that could be, but at the same time I would love to beat them 4-1 or a complete sweep. It would be notice to the league that we have taken the next step.

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Portland losing 22-4 against mavs! Smile

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The mavericks would be the best team to play in the first round. The Mavericks don't have the defense to slow down the Clippers and they don't have the firepower on offense to stay with the Clippers. Memphis would be tough because of their interior scoring and Golden State can get hot with their shooting. The Clippers can always slow down the Suns by running them off the 3-pt line.

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Yeah I'll pass on that haha

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I don't think there really is a team we should be trying to face in the 1st rd because ultimately its about us and how we play and being ready. If we are ready to play then no team in the west can beat us and I believe we will be ready. That loss last year to Memphis sucked but it will help us this year because we have guys who I'm gonna bet good money on who will be locked and loaded for the playoffs this year. Dj,Blake,Cp,Jamal, and Matt have had a bitter taste in their mouths since training camp and said they were playing to get back to the postseason to redeem themselves. I feel sorry for whoever that first rd opponent is this year.

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Their ridiculous 3 point shooting is what scares me. Same with GSW

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Jump shooting teams don't scare me. They can't keep up their hot shooting to win a series against elite teams.

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It seems like we are stuck in the 3rd seed. That is a tall task as we face the prospect of a tough first round and then going on the road for all series thereafter if we continue to win.

New plan. Lets hope for portland or mavs to finish 6th and hope someone knocks out SAS or OKC first. So who do we root to finish 7th and 8th?

Id go with option B.

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Same plan aim for 2nd seed and hope for the Mavs. Beat the Thunder in the second round and go to the WCFs to face whoever.

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Not realistic anymore, losing to denver and the missed opportunity by Toronto tonight might do it. Best case scenario we only lose 1-3 games the rest of the way, okc would have to lose 4-6 games.

We do face them and if we win it gives us the tie breaker and we gain a game on them but that game is a double edge sword and can be the nail on the coffin on our 2 seed hopes if we lose.

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It all hinges on whether we beat them or not. The Thunder face the Rockets and Spurs back to back. THe Nuggets/Mavs back to back. The Kings/Clippers back to back. The Suns at home. Indy/Pelicans back to back at home. Its very possible for the Thunder to lose 5+ games and who knows how long Westbrook is back. They have a tough schedule. Our schedule is light.

If we beat the Thunder we are only 2 games back. Very doable.

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Get the 2nd seed no matter what we ain't beating Durant without homecourt

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if we get the third seed, Portland could be very realistic and doable. I think the Warriors will get the 6th seed.

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Yeah but if we get 3rd and Warriors get 6th then we will play them and not Portland. Not sure quite what you were trying to say?

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We can't choice, every team want to go up as much as we do, so whoever is there be ready, my guess is Portland

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im tired of memphis. we probably get GSW. roll

Silasie
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Yeah GSW does seem likely right now. I think I would prefer Portland, definitely don't want Memphis. Cos though I feel we will beat them (grizz) we would come out the other end all beat up.

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Golden State fans aren't really looking forward to seeing the Clippers in the playoffs despite some Clipper fans thinking it is a bad matchup, they think the same thing. The Warriors can't contain Griffin, though efficiency wise they did a good job on him last time as 30 pts on 28 FGA is not the best. He's averaging 25/11/3 on 53% FG, .549 TS% against them, but has shot a miserable 56% FT against them.

Griffin's low games scoring wise were 20 pts, 8/16 FG and 23 pts, 9/12 FG

Paul is averaging 28/4/13, 47% FG, 33% 3PT, .616 TS% against them and his terrible game was 16/8/12, 3 steals and only 2 turnovers.

When both stars of an opposing team are beating on you, it isn't such a good matchup. Clippers haven't been able to contain Lee though, 22/9/3, 58.5% FG, .615 TS%. Blake has the sexier scoring numbers, but Lee has actually evened him out in the matchups based on his superior efficiency.

Curry is always a threat, he's averaged 22/5/10, 52.5% FG, .586 TS%. Of course Paul wasn't there in game 3 where he went 8/10 FG and 4/4 3PT either.

So the main perimeter and main big scorer on both teams will seemingly produce, so it is about how the rest will pan out around them.

Clippers need to turn Curry over, it disrupts their flow, but do it without over extending the defense and giving him the opportunity to throw easy passes to their bigs, giving them a 4v3 as the hard hedging big has to try and recover. Lee and Bogut are too good passers and too capable of making something happen for that to be a great strategy.

...but, you could give up some of those if you believe the payoff of disrupting their offense and turning Curry over outweighs some of the easy baskets they would get.

I'm actually more worried about Golden State's ability to contain on defense than their offense, and that's an area I believe Redick would help a lot in terms of just getting them moving and making them work a little harder.

Portland I'm not really worried about. They were the #1 offense in the league for a little while, but have dropped. They aren't a great or even good on defense, and they don't force turnovers. Clippers are better both on offense and defense. A good strategy against them is to attack Lopez on the pick and roll with a guy who likes to pull up from range as they play a soft hedge and Lopez does not challenge shooters coming off the pick and roll as he's sitting back and playing them for the drive.

Portland knows he is slow footed and they don't want to pull him too far away from the basket, so really attacking pick and rolls with whomever Lopez is guarding. Defensively I would take away their three's and give decently contested mid-range shots to Aldridge. Over a whole game, Aldridge's mid-range jumpshots can't beat scoring in the paint and 3PT shots.

If Aldridge averages 30 points on 28 FGA on you, despite that looking like poor defense to the casual observer, you've won the series unless you just forgot how to play offense as a team.

Sometimes fans thik no good defense is taking away everything, but you need to take away the most effective and make them go to their less effective options more than they would like to.

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I think we can take GSW. It will certainly fuel the rivalry.

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I'm starting to think Portland is our most likely matchup. GSW will probably pass them soon.

Rockets/Warriors would be a fun series to watch, IMO.

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Again not afraid of any team if were healthy.

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That's why I don't want Memphis cos they could make us unhealthy.

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I'm starting to worry we will drop to 4th. Our schedule is hard. The west is crazy

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I don't want to face Memphis and GSW. They have players who genuinely hate our players. I'm just scared they'll injure Blake. I want to face Rockets because we have their number but since that doesn't look possible, I'll go with Portland.

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I want GSW. I want our guys to be tested like the celtics in 08

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has our 3 pt defense improved enough to stop GSW. you can't shut down curry when he gets going, but can we at least give the other shooters a hard time at the 3?

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Pretty easy to me. OKC at home will be tough. Maybe @ Portland.

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NO. If We drop to fourth the Warriors will most likely rise to 5th. I am not afraid of the Warriors , but they just aren't the ideal First Round Match Up. Dallas is out of....

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If we stay in 3rd there is a good chance we get Portland which I think is a good match up. I still want to see Memphis, but the physicality of that match up is tough. I would like to sweep Memphis and get all that physical talk out of the building.

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That machine that is the Spurs though, having that #1 seed on lock while still resting their players. Just took care of GS the other night without their main guys. They are so annoying.

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Well when you have the same core guys and system for damn near 20 years , your machine is well oiled and you can do that type of stuff. Lol hopefully the Clips get there with Chris and Blake

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