Clippers vs Warriors Game Thread 2014-03-12 (P. 12)

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J-Crawford
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But you lost to Memphis last year in the playoffs, You were a first round exit. Just remember that. You're not winning a title.

david
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I'm not going to try, I'm going to ban you (again) for trolling which is against the site rules.

Icecoldclipper
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Great statement game team deserves the rest.

Wgreen
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David you seem like a nice guy. Call me crazy or whatever but I am not a troll at all. I'm the most honest guy you can ever find and I have no interest in making other people feel uncomfortable. But that what just flat out wrong to ban someone who has a divergence in opinion. I think that people should feel free to voice their opinions. That's just flat out bigotry.

Could it perhaps be this? Could it be that deep down most Clipper fans cannot stand the Warriors because they have beaten them down so many times? Maybe this one win helped a lot of Clippers fans get some sleep. Because if they would have lost 3 straight, the Warriors would be on their minds all night long just like every other loss to the Warriors when their fans gave up. And now one win and people think that anyone that thinks that the Warriors are better is a troll. Maybe that's what is. People that are so insecure about their team. If you were Miami and I said any of this you wouldn't even respond. But here everyone gets offended.

That's the only thing I don't like. Being banned for telling my honest opinion. Not everyone sees it the way Clippers Nation does and that's just how life works. If I were running a Warriors or Clippers forum and 1000 people insulted me, I would never ban them. I would try to talk it out. But I look at this as a cop out. Fans have hated the Warriors for years. And they try brush it off like they don't care about them. Truth is that the Clippers were desperate for a win against them for their own sanity. I've seen people go crazy on here for years.

It's not the bench taunting that GSW does, it's the fact that GSW has absolutely owned LAC and that's the reason why you guys can't stand me. I'm the only one on here who even makes sense. Not one thing I've written is false. I've only stated facts and reasonable opinions. But the whole entire league knows that the Clippers hate losing to the Warriors. It's not about Bogut kicking Blake out. It's not about the David Lee this or that or the bench taunting. LAC fans hate to lose to us and I get that. But don't just brush off this win like it was nothing to you and then start celebrating. I'm just trying to talk realistically. My intention was never to hurt anyone, but to just tell it how it is. It was a rare win, literally.

I should have never ever been banned on here, that's just not right. Just because I know deep down that the LAC fans hate losing to the Warriors like they usually do doesn't mean I should be banned. You don't know me. But deep down, everyone knows I'm not a troll or a mad, loserish fan. In fact, it's other people that tried to attack me on here. You want to ban me just for trying to tell my opinion? That's just not right. Forums should go both ways.

Kingkanyon
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You gotta love this guy!!!, he has no quit in him. Warriors fan's don't take losing too good now do they. Hey man if I were you I'd be saying the same thing, In a few years you can always say: Hey at one point we dominated the Clippers, we won one more game then them over the course of a 3 year span...... LMAO

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Hey if you want to talk basketball without trolling the Clippers or its fanbase- you are more than welcome. We've actually had quite a few other fans of other teams engage in discussions without any problem because they don't troll. But you just can't seem to help yourself with the degrading comments. This is a Clippers forum- members are going to denigrate other teams, including the Warriors, so if you can't accept that, then you shouldn't be on here. If you can accept that and want to talk basketball, be respectful, you'll be fine.

Wgreen
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Except it's not one more game. You already knew that. In fact one more win, and it would have been 3 out of 4 in 2 years. Am I not right? You are reasonable though, you know where I'm coming from.

Icecoldclipper
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lmao at Doc on Grangers shooting "when he makes it all net when he misses he can kill somone".

Kingkanyon
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NO your wrong, Besides last year, the Series has gone 2-2 for a few years. But I don't get how last year equates to this year, totally different scheme, different players, different coaching staff's. Teams change within Month's, and the team you played last game isn't the same team you played yesterday, so you can sing Warriors REGULAR season Dominance all you want but it just won't stand the test of time. In all honesty I myself I already moved on from the win, It happened, it was a Good win, Now it's on to the next team. It's the regular season and all the Warriors were was another team on the Schedule. But like I said if you want to say the Warriors have dominated the Clippers then be my guest, but I don't know how that helps you going forward.

Wgreen
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Granger was the difference. He looks like he hasn't lost a step since Indiana. He was the ''Paul George'' before their was a Paul George. Health hindered him from staying on the court.

CP3Best
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Statement game, and we played Awesome!

Wgreen
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I was talking about just this year and last year. Warriors have won 5 out of 8 games, but I thought they had a chance tonight to make it 3 out of 4 for 2 years in a row. I wasn't counting the year before that because the Warriors weren't relevant in my mind in the Ellis era.

It's not just about the Warriors winning, but I have come on here the last couple of years and just read the forum. Fans have nothing but hate for the Warriors. So many countless times fans have said, ''they have our number.'' And then one day later they change their minds. And then we beat them again and they start feeling sorry for themselves. Then they win and act like none of that ever happened and feel like they have bragging rights.

Let me tell you something about GSW organization. They have class. The best of guys are on that team and I'm talking about sportsmanship and good people in general. Their really are no punks on that team. It's only LAC fans who hate them. I've seen it. I don't get why people on this forum will deny all of that and just act like it never happened. Is every member new or something? I'm not imagining this.

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listen, this is a physical rivalry. last year the clippers got beat 3-1 in the series. this year we evened it 2-2, and had Blake not got ejected in game 2. the league later said that Blake shouldn't have been ejected. so essentially we feel robbed. The warriors play a dirty style against our guys and that is where the animosity comes from. we have gotten beat by Miami and Indiana yet we don't harbor ill will towards them because they play fairly

FightOnRon
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That was fun to be at. I was surrounded by GS fans,felt like the good old days when I was sitting in the section where I was always outnumbered by the opposition. Which tells me one thing,Clipper fan sold out to make some bucks at this game 'cause there were a lot of "Wubs" fans there. Which made walking out of there with a win so so so much sweeter.

PS: went to autograph alley and Blake has sort of turned into a bigshot and doesn't have time for the fans anymore. He was warming up and as soon as he saw us coming down to line up,he ran off the court like his arse was on fire. The ushers told me he doesn't participate much anymore. Fine,I already have him on a ball, a photo and a jersey,but sad for the fans that were all wasting their times wearing their 32 gear. Also, I have a hat that has Ralph Lawler signed on one side and I got Mike Smith to sign the other. Then Ralph walked by and I showed him, he told me I need scissors to cut the Mike Smith part off.

JQuick32
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Stop crying, troll, you're starting to sound like Mark Jackass.

Scoreboard, 1-3 against the Clippers. No, that screwjob on Christmas does not count as a "win" in my book. What's funny is that after all that money your team spent on overrated Iguodala, you're only in 6th place. Warriors will be back to sucking soon and you'll return to being just another Bay Area Laker "fan."

Wgreen
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But you have no facts to back that up. GSW went 2-2 this year against the Clippers. Did you know the Clippers were struggling even when Griffin was still in the game? How are you not trolling? I'm only stating facts. The fact that you said were ''only'' in 6th place means we should be better and I agree. But you have no proof that the Warriors will go back to sucking. And even if they did, why would I become a Bay Area Lakers fan?

JQuick32
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Cheapshotting Blake and getting him wrongfully ejected is classy?

Your bigs holding and grabbing all game and getting away with it is classy?

The constant preening and showboating is classy?

Mark Jackass cheating by using Iguodala as a mole against the Nuggets last year is classy?

Mark Jackass - a so-called "man of God" - cheating on his wife with a hooker is classy? And that's not even getting into how much of a cancer Jackass was as a player, just ask any Jazz fan.

The Warriors are so far from classy, it's not even funny. If you want to see true class, just look at how Blake continues to be the bigger person when your studio gangsta players keep trying to cheapshot and trash-talk him.

JQuick32
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By the way, we're not the only fanbase that dislikes the Warriors and their fans. I know for a fact that Jazz and Nuggets fans can't stand your bitchmade team and bandwagon "fanbase" (established in the playoffs last year) either.

Wgreen
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I agree that Blake shouldn't have been ejected, but we'll never know. You can't just automatically say you would have won, unless you were dominating. I mean that is a big cry baby excuse. I'm sorry but I can't give that to you. The Clippers have to earn it. You can't just cry about him not playing for a quarter. If he would have got hurt, would you blame us and still make that excuse? Where does making excuses ever get you? I'm not trying to degrade you, but I'm really disappointed in you guys trying to give yourselves credit over the whole series just because Blake didn't play for a quarter. That allows you to just write everything off. You're better than that. If Curry got kicked out, I would only use it as an excuse if it kept happening, not if it just happened for one quarter.

I really don't think the Warriors play that dirty or dirty at all. Maybe I just didn't notice it, but I think LAC exaggerates mightily. I mean what about all the flopping you guys do? How come every single fan in the NBA talks about that, but you guys don't notice how bad you flop? You see what I mean? It goes both ways and I'm just trying to be fair. I don't think you guys see it from a 3rd persons view. I do though. If Blake didn't flop so much, then I might sympathize for you. But I can't tell if he's just flopping or really getting fouled because he plays cry wolf too much.

JQuick32
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Blake doesn't flop. Curry does, though.

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one key thing you are forgetting....we were winning in the game. once blake gets ejected that changed everything, so how is that not a key moment and factor in that win? also, for a guy complaining about a ban look how negative your posts are. calling us floppers. theres nothing unbiased about you and your opinion is trolling. David was far too kind allowing you on this site

Steady818
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So earlier you were talking about not trolling yet all your doing here is trolling. It's one thing to talk about your team and how you think they are better but to keep turning it around and talking **** about the fans on their own message board is another thing..

The season series is 2-2.. and yet 1 of those wins your squad resorted to playground tactic to manage a win. and even than it was by 1 possession, and yet you want to talk about how superior your team is compared to ours. Check the standings see who's been better the past 2 seasons.. In fact look at the last game you guys beat us in.. We came off a back to back without Chris Paul. Without the added depth of Danny Granger and Glen Davis, so just like you with your ellis days, i call these 2 wins against us irrelevant.

Wgreen
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How do you know Blake didn't put that on himself? He flops so much, u can't tell if their cheap shotting him or if he's faking it. Blake cheap shotted Bogut tonight, I'm hardly even complaining. Warriors are classy. Things can get chippy on both sides. But the Warriors do know not to cross the line. Remember when Bogut shoved DeAndre into Blake's hands? Yes Bogut is strong, but DeAndre initiated that. Just because Bogut retaliated doesn't mean that it's okay for DJ to start it. The only difference was DJ's shove wasn't very hard. Bogut is just strong. Now you know that's true, he is strong.

Wgreen
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How am I trolling? Do you know what a troll is? I just have a different take. You know, you can make excuses all you want. But at the end of the day, what counts is what actually happens, not what could have happened. I mean do good teams really make excuses? You're just going to write off every loss? That's BS to me. I'm not trying to offend you or troll you, but good teams don't get to make all the excuses in the world. If it was something like the refs were in on it, then maybe. But you can't just make lame excuses. Those losses were losses, as were last years.

JQuick32
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How has this troll not been IP banned?

Wgreen
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No as far as I remember it was an even game. Even if you were winning by a basket, you weren't in control and basketball is a 4 quarter game. The bottom line is that's over with and you lost. But that's only one game, what about all the other times? You write off every single loss. I don't get to do that and I won't make an excuse even though I could tonight. But I don't do that. Yea I'm calling you floppers because I'm being unbiased. Everyone knows it and I'm not saying that it's wrong to flop. I was just giving my response to someone. Don't you think you're calling me a troll so you can ban me? I don't see how I'm trolling.

Wgreen
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I said I'm not a troll. What EXACTLY did I say that qualifies as trolling. Just because I'm not agreeing with everything you guys think does not mean that I'm a troll. I'll say it again. I'm not a troll. I want to talk about NBA.

CP3Best
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I see SO much class in O'Neal just trolling and waiting for Griffin to get out of his locker, to paraphrase Griffin, "Keep that s___t on the court man" seems like Warriors have a little bit of a problem playing a straightup game, cause they know they will LOSE!

JQuick32
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Just because you say you're not trolling doesn't make it so.

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So let me get this straight, its ok for you to disregard certain points in time for your team but not for us to do the same? I'm only using your logic. and in fact I'm making my case in point on why we are the better team. It took a Blake Griffin ejection to beat us on christmas day. The 2nd win we didn't have Chris Paul we were coming off a back to back and didn't have a fully healthy JJ Redick. Not making excuses to why we lost but telling why we are the better team.. Even Last night we didn't have JJ and Jamal and yet we still pulled off the win. And once again check the season standings we sit 5 games above you guys for a reason.

Obviously you seem to think your not trolling but those last 2 i bolded show otherwise. Your not taking your arguments on a team to team basis. Your sitting there and taking shots about us as fans on our own message board. I don't mind a fan from another team coming here for a legit discussion with us, but with your short history you've already taken multiple jabs at us as fans.. You have yet to show otherwise

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Vegas championship odds: Clippers 12-1, Warriors 22-1.

Hollinger Playoff odds: Clippers championship 22.2%, Warriors championship 7.3%.

NBA Western conference standings: Clippers 46-20, Warriors 41-25.

So professional oddsmakers, complex computer algorithms and outright facts say the Clippers are better, but this troll isn't buying it. Okay then.

Wgreen
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But we have beaten you 5 out of 8 times in the last 2 years and we have advanced further in the playoffs. You guys did not. So that's why I think we're a better playoff team because we've achieved more so far. We have the better starting line up and a pretty good bench, but in the playoffs the bench's minutes goes down. The Warriors actually statistically have the best starting unit in the NBA, they outscore their opponents by a large margin, and that's counting every 100 shots, not just points total. You have no proof that you would have won on December 25th if Griffin wouldn't have been ejected. The game was very even the whole way and I still would say we win that game. But who cares? It's over and we'll never know, we did win though.

I'm not here to take jabs, I'm here to state my honest opinion and sometimes I have a rebuttal. Maybe you think I'm trying to take jabs because I don't agree with you. Did I say Blake sucks? Did I say anything extremely bad?

Wgreen
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Well anything can happen, I mean you can't base everything off of odds. On paper, the Warriors do have a lot more talent. Those are Vegas odds and you have not gave me any outright facts.

cleepers
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On hardwood, not so much.

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Wgreen
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Maybe not Miami Heat, but I think still better than LAC.

cleepers
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Western conference standings are factual. Those games have been played and the Clippers have won more. Fact.

cleepers
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You're allowed to think whatever you like... and I'm allowed to think you're a moron. God bless America.

namzug
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He's a delusional Flaker fan masquerading as a Oakland fan, you can't ask him to look at numbers and odds. He was on the other thread defending Kobe's trolling tweet and asking us to sympathize with Kobe.

I could have sworn that he said he's only looking at the last two years, and says they've owned us and that is more than a one game lead; but in the last two years the series would be at 5 out of 8 making it only a one game difference. Next year this kid is going to be joining as a supposed long time Clipper fan going on Warrior forums talking trash.

ClippersDA
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Not even on paper - Dudley is our twelfth man. Our talent on paper with our acquisitions is superior.

Wgreen
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That's fine, but you don't really know me.

CapsNClips
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Ah I think I see the problem here.

Wgreen
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Dudley does not really factor into it. I'm talking about the players who play regular minutes.

CapsNClips
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That's true, but "on paper" you're a complete dumb f*ck.

Wgreen
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But because you're a Clippers fan, I'm guess you're not gonna be banned for going that route and calling me that. You see guys? I don't get offended like the people on here.

namzug
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In a Flaker fans eyes saying your team has more talent is much more factual than standings, record or anything odds makers or analysts can ever tell you.

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Nor do I want to.

Wgreen
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Well, why don't we wait to see what happens and if you actually do get further. If so, I'll give you credit. Why don't we leave it at that? I'm willing to wait. I'm a fair person. But if LAC doesn't win, you can't just make excuses and write off every game because of this or that. Got it? I'm sure last year the odd makers had the Clippers ahead too but they didn't get anywhere. The only thing that matters is results not what some odd makers thought.

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exactly, I don't see how a 6th place standing means you're better than 3rd place. Then this guy is trying to act all innocent like "im just being honest...you guys are floppers, and I should be able to insult you, yet not get banned"

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Results like 111-98?

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