Clippers vs Warriors Game Thread 2014-03-12 (P. 13)

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CapsNClips
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I see you generously gave us two options, but where's the third option where we never hear from you ever again regardless of what happens?

I choose that one emphatically.

Wgreen
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Well last year the Warriors were in 6th place and ended up doing better than the Nuggets. Not in standings, but in the playoff match. What I meant by floppers is that that's the consensus. And how am I not innocent by generalizing the flops that your team does sometimes commit? I didn't say you flopped on every single play though.

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lol Cleepers you've earned your first BINGO! of the day.

Wgreen
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I was just saying that we gotta wait and see what happens. I'm not coming on here just to cause reactions anyways.

Wgreen
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Yea that does count as something. Seriously. I never said I gave no credit to you guys. I give credit for that win. It was a win and a win is a win. Absolutely.

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It's not really waiting and seeing when you come on here with 5 weeks left in the regular season to talk about how much you like your gross team. Actually that's the opposite, now isn't it?

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Well, why don't we wait to see what happens and if you actually do get further. If so, I'll give you credit. Why don't we leave it at that? I'm willing to wait. I'm a fair person. But if LAC doesn't win, you can't just make excuses and write off every game because of this or that. Got it? I'm sure last year the odd makers had the Clippers ahead too but they didn't get anywhere. The only thing that matters is results not what some odd makers thought.
So should we be waiting for you to comeback when you....

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Again your reading what you want to.. Did i say you talked crap about any of the players?? I specifically stated that you talked **** about us as fans. You said you weren't trolling.. I showed you why you were trolling by calling us new fans. saying we feel sorry for ourselves.. Need i go on???

Now moving onto the teams. On Paper we are Better on the Hardwood we are better..

Chris Paul > Curry

KLAY THOMPSON = JJ REDICK

IGGY > MATT BARNES

BG > LEE

DJ = BOGUT

Our 2nd best player is better than your best... Say what you will.. But i don't remember you guys making it to the western conference finals in the past 2 years, so how exactly has your team made it further in the playoffs than us? You guys have had the lesser of the record the past 3 seasons so how exactly have you guys been ahead of us again? So you guys own a 5-3 record over us since the start of last season.. Sorry but a course of 200+ games tells me more about a team than 8 does.

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So should we be waiting for you to comeback when you get knocked out in the first round by us or whoever you face off against? You caught Denver and San Antonio off guard last year, can you blame them you finished last or something on the back end in the division the year before. Or is it back to Flakernation if that happens for you? I know some real Oakland fans and they wouldn't be caught dead defending Kobe. I like some of your players, Harrison Barnes and Iggy are some of my favorite players not in....

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Wgreen
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No Bogut is better than DJ and Thompson is better than Redick if you look at all aspects of the game. I know that DJ has had a good year, but hey look Bogut is really one of the top centers when he is healthy and he has been great in the minutes he's played, defensively, and he passes really well. Redick is good offensively but Thompson really is the more talented defensive player and has a lot more length than JJ. Curry has actually been better than Griffin this year in my opinion, and I do think he's the better scorer than paul. The Warriors have the best starting 5 in the NBA. Most people (outside of LAC fans) would agree that the Warriors starters are very good. I'm trying to be reasonable here. Clippers starters, not quite. Not when you have Barnes in there.

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These lames came to our board to complain about the clippers wtf?

Wgreen
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No, just to talk NBA really. I also talked about Kobe. I'm not complaining, I'm just giving them my take. I have a divergence in opinion and I understand that this is a Clippers forum and nobody is going to like me.

Good game last night. You guys did well. I think O'neal might have been off line. I'm just saying we're still classy overall.

Let's just see what happens. If we play you in the playoffs and beat us, I have no problem with admitting defeat. I'll be a bit upset and just move on.

CapsNClips
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Throwing elbows to Blake Griffins throat is very classy, you're right.

JQuick32
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You're not disliked because this is a Clippers forum. You're disliked because you are a troll.

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I'm not counting the others because I know were better. But how is the top 5 players on the Warriors better than our top 5?

I mean the Stats and the team Record just don't say that.

Wgreen
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Hey listen man. What exactly do you mean by troll? That term is being used really lightly these days. Anytime someone is not liked, I think they're called a troll. Do you mean a troll like someone going on a forum just to prank people? That's not me. I'm gonna be honest. I do get upset when my team loses. I think in order to be a fan, you have to have a little bit of emotion. I do like this forum though and have followed it here and there, just for the forum itself. I like the culture, but sometimes I see fans talking about my teams and I don't always agree. I'm just trying to talk NBA but step in when I don't agree fully. But is that a troll? Someone who writes things that others don't agree with? What exactly makes me a troll? God I hate that word. Can't they come up with something better? Maybe I'm a little different, but I sure as hell am not trying to ''troll.''

JQuick32
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You've come on here under three different usernames to talk **** about our team. If that's not blatantly trolling, I don't know what is.

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Is this another one of those "I think" statements, or are you claiming it as fact?

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Well the Clippers have a very good team, but I'm not the only person who thinks the Warriors have the best starting 5 in the NBA. I appreciate your advanced match up stats, but I was just speaking more in general. I'm talking passing, defense, shooting, etc. I didn't mean the Warriors have a better starting 5 than just LAC, but a better starting 5 than every team actually. This is all arguable, sure. But I'm not the only one. I mean the Warriors have top 10 players at each position. That's pretty impressive. You can make a case for LAC too, but I'm just saying the Warriors are up there with every team when it comes to starters. You don't have to take it personal. But we'll see how far the Clippers bench can take them in the playoffs. If they do well, I will give them credit.

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HERE YOU GO, this is kinda what your doing. LOL it describes everything perfectly.

Wgreen
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Really man? There are too many intangibles to even go there, why don't we just drop that? What I mean by facts are the results. So yes the Clippers do have a better record than the Warriors, but like I said we have to look at the big picture and wait and see what happens. Please don't kill me for wanting to see what happens before making conclusions. I mean so many things can happen, there could be an injury, a team could get hot, a team could be off guard, or maybe a team starts peaking or maybe a team over achieved, whatever. My point is that why don't we wait and see what happens after the playoffs instead of name calling? Don't just count the Warriors out yet. I'm not saying they will win it all, but they might do good.

CapsNClips
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You only have 1 player on your team who is arguably top 5 at his position.

We have 2 players who are the best at their position and a Center who is arguably top 5. The only people that agree with you about the Warriors starting 5 are just other Warriors fans.

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Bogut may be better in overall career statistics than DJ, and i guess if you want to compare their career as a whole than i agree. But we aren't exactly doing that are we.. DJ has been better this year.

Steph Curry may be a better a much better scorer than CP3 but overall for the position they play Chris Paul is the bigger difference maker there and is the best point guard in the league at this point. That doesn't mean Curry isn't there id place him second i sure as hell like him a lot more than westbrook ill say.

I will give Thompson the edge since JJ hasn't been healthy much this year, but Jamal has stepped in and been great so i won't complain..

And lastly there is nobody from either team that is even close to what Blake is doing right now. There is a reason he is closing in on the MVP race even though i doubt he challenges the other 2 up there.

Your teams starting five is great, our benches have been equally inconsistent and non existent at times. At the end of the day the better starting five puts up the results and that is what we have been doing and that's why we stay in the lead in the pacific.

Can that change come playoff time? Yes the Warriors shoot a lot and if they are hot they are close to unbeatable, but the same can be said about any team.. When the Clippers make 9 or more 3s this year they haven't lost yet. My Point is that even a team like Dallas or Phoenix can go far if they are not missing shots.

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Well I can appreciate you for showing me this, but I don't think I'm a troll if I annoyed someone inadvertently. I may have provoked some readers into an emotional response, or maybe it came off like I was trying to, but that doesn't mean I was doing it on purpose. Maybe I am just a little eccentric? I don't know. But I thought trolling was someone who was a jerk on purpose. For me, I'm just trying to plead my case, which is giving my opinion. Is that a troll? Maybe because everyone is a Clipper fan and doesn't want someone on this forum because he's only a neutral fan and sees things on the other side of the coin?

Now what about all the people who said things to me, to try to piss me off? How are they not trolls instead of me? What did I say specifically that was so trollish? I didn't say that The Clippers suck, I didn't say anything too derogatory or if I did I apologize, maybe I was trying to prove my side.

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You mean "intangibles" like DJ scoring more PPG, pulling down more rebounds, better in steals and blocks, fewer turnovers, measurably contributes more to a better team's better record, started every game for the past 3 seasons and the cherry on the cake... 11% better at the free-throw line.

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Your not understanding that its not the Clippers bench that has taken them this far.. Our bench has been horrible so far this year.. Its our starting 5 that has carried us to where we are right now.. The Warriors having the best starting 5 is not a fact and is just your opinion because you like to ignore the stats.. And that is fine your entitled to it.

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Thing that just blows my mind, is that I "could" see how GSW has the best starting lineup in all of basketball, just a lil bit, at the first glance, but no..... Their record speaks for itself, they are 6 in the West, Clippers basically had no bench for the first half of the season because it was All Moved to the STARTING lineup, just like yesterday, and GSW STILL lost, In theory they might be the best but look at the Lakers last year: Kobe, Nash, Howard, Gasol, MWP, lottery! Warriors are a dissapointment IMO, they should be way higher in the standings...

Wgreen
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I mean most of what you say is cool, but some things are subjective too. You can look at DJ's rebounds or blocks and say he has had the better year, but with Bogut's minutes he has done really well and you have to realized that defense also consists of things that aren't always in the stats. Plus, you have to appreciate Bogut's passing ability.

Yea Griffin has been doing a lot better recently. He's hitting jumpers. You're right the same can be said of any team and that's because overall the West is really close. More so this year than in recent years. I mean I think anyone can beat anybody within reason, but I don't think you could have said that of previous years. Yea maybe Dallas or Phoenix can go far if they hit shots, but there is something particularly special about the Warriors front court. And the Warriors are actually 3rd in defensive percentage, so it's not just the shooting. You look at at them on paper and they have so many people who can pass and shoot, you have rebounders. You have a near complete package. It's just a matter of putting it together all at once. I actually think they should be feared a bit more in that shooting department. And we'll see. Last year no Lee. Maybe he does help in a positive way in the playoffs. I'm telling you, don't count us out.

Yea, so far the Clippers have been getting the results in the regular season fine, but I really think the Warriors could have done better. Now I'm not trying to make an excuse here. Because that's where it sounds like I'm going. With Paul out, I really think the Warriors should have caught LAC earlier on, but they underachieved and things were really up and down. Clippers have been more consistent, I agree. All I'm saying is you can't just flat out call the Warriors chumps or Bush Leaguer's or whatever it is. This team can play ball when they have their heads on straight. Yea, maybe I'm a homer but you can't just deny everything I'm saying.

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Yea maybe you're right. But GSW has done well since the all star break. Before that they really were struggling. But for a long time period ( I don't know when I last saw this but not too long ago) the Warriors starting 5 had the best stats. They outscored their opponents by more than 18 points per 100 possessions and that was actually better than any other team including the Heat and Pacers. this is per 100 possession so it was a pretty impressive stat. But they had the worst bench in the league. Now Blake has really helped and so has Crawford. The Warriors have vastly improved since that acquisition. tonight it didn't show, maybe LAC played good defense or maybe they were too tired from last night because they have filled in for the starters the last 10 games. But that was a great starting 5 stat. That's all I'm saying.

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@Wgreen

The Warriors owned the Clippers? What the hell are you talking about? Last year? Lol get out of here, speka on the present. We are tied the season series 2-2, and on Christmas when you guys won its cause you ejected our superstar!!! Hahaha this kid is smoking on something crazy. Plus note that both teams won all games on their floor this season, dealing with all these injuries too man. This is what pisses me off about you Warriors d riding fans .... Draymond green and andrew bogut, are dirty ass players and you guys condone it and act like we lie. Draymond threw an elbow for crying out loud and David Lee with his 2 inch has to put down blake Griffin like he is something when he's not **** only saying blake Griffin is box office LOL, I can't stand that team man and if you're here to troll GTFO

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Calm down. The thing is you guys yourselves were the ones saying it all last year. Even this year many fans on here kept saying you can't beat the Warriors. I read this many times from many different posters. I was thinking to myself wow, LAC fans do feel like they are cursed. They got so pissed every time the Warriors beat them and then they started calling us names and this and that. But you have to understand, from my perspective it really looked that way. We had a bunch of good match ups and up until yesterday were 5 and 2 going on 3 wins in a row. So you have to think about what would have happened if LAC lost yesterday, the reaction would be completely different. It was like a 15 point game, but close most of the game.

Yea maybe I shouldn't have brought up last year, okay. But what if we would have beat you on Christmas without Blake being ejected? He did well but by no means was LAC running away with the game. Moral victories don't count either. GSW still played pretty even with them even when Blake was in there, though he did do good. So all I'm saying is you can't just excuse that loss. I know it was frustrating, but it wasn't like you would have won easily or automatically. Plus, I thought CP3 was your best player. It's like you remember that game so well because it was on Christmas and everyone was watching.

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We played you guys at home without Redick and you guys barely squeaked out a win with ref help and cheating(Blake getting a bogus tech and getting ejected).Then you get blown out again when we have no Redick and Crawford. You guys aren't on our level get over it. I could care less about the Warriors unless we face them in the first round and if we are healthy you guys have no chance unless you make 10 threes a game sorry.

Just stating the facts. The Warriors are an inconsistent jump shooting team. Too one dimensional offensively. You guys are very fortunate to play us without CP3 once, without Redick twice and without Crawford once.

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Was it just me or was dj totally on the wrong place on every play last night? He was like on the perimeter half the game.

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Heliflopter, look the truth is that injuries happen in the NBA. JJ Redick is a good shooter but unless you really follow the Clippers, you're not going to take someone seriously when they start saying ''You barely beat us without Redick.'' What if I said you barely beat us without Blake? That just sounds stupid. It's still an excuse and if you guys were really doing well that game you could have been the ones to barely squeak out a win against us even without Blake. He didn't even miss the whole game, he missed like a quarter. That is just a bad excuse. I mean, sure maybe the call was a bit unfair, but that kinda stuff happens every now and then. Ultimately you guys lost the game.

Yes we are on your level. We can shoot with you, we can rebound with you, we can defend with you. We have new bench players too and they have been pretty good, just not great last night. 10 threes is doable, are you kidding me? We can beat you in the playoffs. Now I'm not saying that it would be easy, but all I'm saying is that realistically the Warriors do have what it takes and I see no reason why it can't happen. When the Warriors are hot, nobody can beat them. But we're also the number one defensive team in the West, 3rd overall behind Indiana and Chicago. So unless you are San Antonio or OKC, don't be so cocky. We can beat you in a series, we have the pieces.

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^ J.J. Redick was our 3rd best player when on the court this season. He's just as good as your boy Klay.

Wgreen
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Yea but is he even going to play this year? He's pretty cool, I don't know about as good as Klay. Klay can really defend and has 4 inches on him.

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DONT DO IT!

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What's with the all the damn trolls on this board? Can't you just go to your own team's forum? You must have no life to go on an opposing team's forum, just to piss off people.

Wgreen
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Do you really think I'm trying to piss people off? It looks like others are actually trying to do that to me and I'm innocent?

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As a spectator i can say Wgreen you can share your opinion but when you drag on a conversation/argument this long i feel like you have ulterior motives. Time to move on guys

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Sorry but you are far far far from our level. Chris Paul and Redick (key players) have missed a TON of games and we are still the 3rd seed in the West!! The warriors have been relatively pretty healthy and let's be Honest have been pretty damn stacked from the beginning of the season and u guys still struggle. Just face it, you are a terrible team in this aspect, you guys rely on the 3 ball too much just like Portland. Your offense is pretty weak in my eyes other than that , and defensively u guys are definitely not 3rd in league when you are 6th in the west lmao this is why I can't stand stats sometimes. They don't mean sh*t. You guys have too many ball-stoppers cause eveyone and their moms on that roster think they are kobe. And David Lee gets banged out every time on defense, he can't stop blake. And lets just be straight up, curry can't defend for ****. If his 3 balls aren't falling he's your typical loser point guard that's LEADING THE LEAGUE IN TURNOVERS. HAHAHAHAHAHA, that's a terrible stat to have as a "dominant point guard". If the warriors don't shoot hot, or lights out they struggle. No one knows them for their defense, they gave up 112 points last night. I don't care what you say either, Griffin didn't play the whole 4th quarter pretty on Christmas and that just have you guys this thing called momentum and totally fucked up our fluidity of play, it shouldn't happen but guess what that's happens when the refs kick out your best player for no good legitimate reason.

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Yea I'm done. Only have one more post left. I can see where you're coming from bro.

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I haven't got to look over your entire conversation in this thread, I just skimmed over it. Even then, I was referring more to J-Crawford.

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Maybe they are just one person. Smile

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whats going on today? this guys pathetic. on here bitching for +4 hours. get a life

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You have J_crawford and Wgreen, any plan to make a C_paul or Bgriffin? registration is free Smile

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I agree with the sign above. Please don't feed this guy. He does not respect facts and reality. We live in the present not the past. We are 3rd and they are 6th. If business A has more profits than B, A is better. Wins speaks volumes. It is all about the W and we have more than them. Just ban or ignore him. If we don't feed him, he will die. Let's enjoy our season and our future.

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we are the better team. if the shoe was on the other foot. you guys would never win a game without klay or curry. we are an all around better team. we have guys step up when they are called upon. ohh and blake was doing great that game. he had 20 points 14 rebounds before he got ejected. you guys couldn't contain him so you had to play dirty and get him ejected.

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Who let these Lames in here??? Don't these kids realize that the Clippers beat the warriors without alsmot 50 pts combines sitting out on the bench!?!? Curry Limited really VS No Crawford No Redick??? How old are you?? Or maybe you just have an inferior Bball IQ??? Cheers!!

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LOL, I was thinking the same thing. But at least J_Crawford could be Jordan Crawford who's on GS. If they really wanted to troll, they could be V_Delnegro.

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