Future of the Clippers Franchise; NBA to Make Sterling Sell? (P. 4)

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JQuick32
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Clearly the owners aren't too worried about that after all since it turns out they do have a system in place to force out owners in situations like this.

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Yes! Nba owners must vote. Talking about it on espn710 radio right now.

JQuick32
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It should be a pretty quick vote since the owners want him out.

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I would bet that they wouldn't vote until it is fully investigated. This could give time for more things to come out and making it easier on the owners to vote him out. As it stands I doubt that voters would want to vote a counterpart out based on a private conversation. As bad as what was said in the conversation the fact that it was private would probably dissuade other owners to act on that alone.

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Never mind, back to being screwed.

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Since other owners are in competition with Clippers, wouldn't they WANT DTS to stay? All of a sudden no coach or free agents would shun their franchise in favor of joining Clips.

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No, because his continued presence is starting to taint their own franchises and the league by association.

ClipsGForce
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Also if Donald is still an owner, he would basically be useless as his teams will always be bottom dweller and not making any revenue.

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Lester Munson reviews NBA Constitution, suggests 3/4 vote of owners could terminate Donald Sterling's ownership.

http://t.co/RYnHcr3K3q

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I heard a very interesting take on NPR business news today...

The question is not so much "can the NBA kick Donald Sterling out?", but "would the NBA want to kick Donald Sterling out?".

As most of us know, ALL the power of the league rests with the 30 owners. They are the governing body and the commissioner reports to, and is paid by them. Their by-laws and constitution are secret but it is suspected that there is a morality clause, and even if there isn't, they could write one in any time they choose.

All of the owners can see that this is a black-eye for the league, and they will all likely take a financial hit because of it. But the issue goes much deeper than losing a few bucks in the short term. Expelling Sterling would set a dangerous precedent for each and every one of them. Any of them could be sanctioned and voted out at any time in the future.

Let's say for example that Mark Cuban and Dan Gilbert had some beef with each other... maybe their business interests overlap in a certain market and they are in competition. All it would take is for one of them to uncover something objectionable in the other's business dealings or practices - and let's face it, no billionaire is squeaky clean - for the morality clause to be invoked and for that owner to be at risk of losing his team.

Basically, by expelling Sterling they will be surrendering power and leaving themselves open to similar action in the future. There is effectively an unwritten rule currently which says that there are no rules except for keeping each other's secrets. It's every man for himself and they will continue to fleece the rest of us because they are the billionaire boy's club.

Donald's rant, while ignorant, has opened up a whole can of worms for all of them and shed some light into a very dark place. That's why we're not hearing too many other owners calling for his head.

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I find it hard to believe that anyone else would be doing anything this bad for the owners to vote them out. And if there are other owners as bad as Sterling, then they SHOULD be exposed and voted out.

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You're very naive...

"Adam Silver has a parade of laudable business partners that he inherited from his morally ambiguous predecessor, David Stern.

The new NBA commissioner has a business partner in Washington who doesn't know the difference between a tax code and "class warfare," who bribes bloggers, slugs fans, bulldozes the neighboring Chinatown population into Virginia so he can help put up more Hooters, and asserts that we should all be grateful for the privilege of subsidizing his team.

He has a business partner in Orlando who is so righteous he has poured millions into anti-gay marriage initiatives, because gays "keep asking for favors" and "special treatment," and marriage is "not vital to them, in my opinion."

He has a business partner in Cleveland that made billions in the mortgage business, many of them by passing subprime loans along to the ultimate thieves, Countrywide, which greased the derivative machine that helped destroy the global economy.

He has a business partner in Oklahoma City who made his billions through fracking, which has been linked to everything from toxic drinking water to earthquakes to climate change, and then screwed landowners out of their royalties when business went bad.

He has a business partner in Brooklyn who is an oligarch, that special kind of patriot who uses political connections to grab billions in state-owned assets for micropennies on the dollar, leaving much of the population to starve in the feudal cesspool left behind."

http://www.nj.com/ledger-dalessandro/in ... _ugly.html

Thanks to @FreaKeyy for posting this yesterday.

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Somebody is being played, big time. I have yet to figure out who that is.

JQuick32
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Mike Wilbon reports that at least five billionaires have contacted Silver to try to buy the Clippers.

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You are aware that DTS brought the Clippers to LA against the wishes and lawsuit of the owners, right? The owners voted against DTS to bring them here but he did it anyway. The Owners filed a 20 million dollar lawsuit against him for doing that. Guess what Donald did? he sued back for 50 million against the owners! They ended up settling for 6 million. That's DTS for you. System or no system, Donald doesn't care.

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And you were worried that Sterling and Magic were our only options.

JQuick32
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I'd still rather have someone known and trustworthy buy the team, because the thought of another **** owner taking over is horrifying. I know absolutely nothing about that real estate guy that TMZ mentioned, but Magic and his group are a known quantity.

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You got a point which is why I believe this may be the last year that we're competitive. Sterling will drag this out as long as he can. By the time it's over, Doc has quit, CP and BG have asked to be traded

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Are they? Guggenheim tends to stay very quiet, does anyone really much of anything about the guys that run it? If nothing else they are strongly linked to the finance industry types involved in the economic collapse from several years ago; one of their top people was CEO of Bear Stearns when it collapsed.

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They're a known quantity in that we are seeing them in action right now in owning the Dodgers.

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Ideas like this just piss me off:

And the Rockets' owner is not the only one saying it - of course, Laker fans have been all over this idea from the start. It comes across as wanting to shop for players off OUR roster instead of genuine disgust at Sterling's behavior. And it punishes the fans, who did nothing wrong and don't deserve a bad team just for having a bad owner.

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This is great to hear

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Is this all this still "nonsense"?

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Huh? What do you mean?

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Jquick I can't quote you for some reason but if true that is sickening.

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If they are going to move the franchise, please move it back to San Diego! I would love to see that mainly because it would get rid of Sterling I assume.

JQuick32
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The franchise won't be moved. They're under lease at Staples, they make money in LA, and moving the team in the wake of this scandal would be an added PR nightmare for the league that they can't afford. People need to stop with this nonsense.

I feel a lot better now with all the owners speaking out and the sponsorships dropping the team that DTS will be gone soon and Magic/Guggenheim will be taking over. You really think they'll be moving the team out of LA? Pfft.

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My comment was a big IF. But, I still am a bit skeptical about Magic taking over. Not that I don't trust him, but he played for the Lakers for his whole hall-of-fame career.

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Magic wouldn't be a problem, just as Larry Bird wasn't a problem for Indiana.

Now Michael Jordan....

tense2
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Why in the hell would they want to move out of the second largest market. Maybe as far south as Anaheim, LOL.

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Larry Bird isn't a owner and his roots are in Indiana.

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Magic/Guggenhein would be perfect for us! I mean textbook perfect. Beyond perfect.

After the disposal (almost literally) of the "Ole Fogey" racist, you would have a new owners group which is a a black and white partnership. It would point to a future of inter-racial cooperation and be a model for the NBA going forward.

A CTB member's sig (paraphrased) references the Lakers on the History Channel. Sorry, Jim Buss, this is exactly what will happen were Magic and friends to buy the team.

Imagine Magic trotting out Yasiel Puig and Clayton Kershaw at Staples. Jim Buss, by virtue of being the village idiot, now has few legendary allies he can call upon to inject some charisma fuel into the Lakers. Phil won't help, Magic would be the enemy, Kareem was snubbed. While the camera pans to Billy Crystal, Paul McCartney and Magic Johnson at Clippers home games, the Lakers celeb-cam will show Smush Parker, Slava Medvedenko and Steve Nash on his back, stretching. They won't show Kobe's scowl.

If you think this WAS a nightmare for the Clippers, Magic owning the Clippers would be a SUPER NIGHTMARE for Jim Buss.

If this plays out the way I think it will, this will be known as INDEPENDENCE DAY.

To paraphrase Scarface, "First you get the team, then you buy the franchise, then the world is yours." "Magic, you can't kill a Laker." "Jimbo, who ever says you was one?"

This could be amazing!

tense2
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Still won't matter. Magic would be fine if that's who we ended up with. They'll be plenty of bidders for this franchise so I feel very confident anyone would be better then The Donald.

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We're the belle of the billionaire ball.

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HOnestly from where I live, I would love them to move to Anaheim, would make the drive not so bad for me. But moving this team makes no sense and solves nothing really.

If the new owner would get the whole shooting match including the practice facility, that is a heck of a drive for the players from where they live to Anaheim or from Playa del Whereever. But, they can stop by my house and have a beer if they'd like, I am about half way from their side of town.

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Anyone but Magic. Him being the biggest cheerleader to sell the team rubs me the wrong way. Him calling our players and coach also rubs me the wrong way.

tense2
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Yep. Who ever buys this franchise ain't going any where..well o.k., there is a 1% chance. Smile

tense2
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OK, sounds like a personal problem then. Razz

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I agree. At worst he's behind a conspiracy, at best he's a looter.

JQuick32
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Uhh.... why? Don't we all want the team sold? If anything, I'd want the owner who wants this team the most and that appears to be Magic.

tense2
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Oy vey, sounds like reasonable think. Razz

JQuick32
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Just because you've whipped up vast conspiracies about Magic swindling DTS out of the team (as if that would be a bad thing) and trading our entire roster to the Lakers doesn't mean they have any basis in truth. You continue to ignore the fact that Magic is not on good terms with the Lakers and that there is no way Guggenheim is ever spending a billion dollars to run a glorified farm team in the second-biggest media market. Just not happening. The league wouldn't even allow that to happen.

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This theory seems to make the most sense, and if I was a betting man I would bet it would play out like this.

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3/4 teams need to veto Sterling out. That about 22.5 so lets round it up to 23 teams. I'm pretty sure Sterling will be out. It's all about image at the end of the day too, if all 29 other teams don't vote him out THEY WILL look bad.

Sterling will be out shortly and there is no lawsuit he can pull to save his ass according to the arbitration of the NBA bylaws.

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Statement from Doc...

http://www.nba.com/clippers/news/offici ... doc-rivers

AirGriffin
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And Magic would be a great owner. Get some Lakers haters off the Clippers back and Magic has great respect around the league. He will actually attend games more than Donald Sterling and make better decisions than he has ever made. Chris Paul would love Magic as owner. Makes a great fit and an ideal outcome.

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I really hope you're right. I can't wait until I never have to hear Sterling's name again.

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I said nothing about him trading our players to the lakers. In fact, I said that this would crush the Buss family eventually.

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Uh, what does "anyone" mean? I just don't want Magic. Don't worry, I'm not one of the 29 owners who'll have to decide if it came down to it.

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You don't think he's looting, when he's been known to want the team for some time and he's using his public forum to call for the owner to be replaced?

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