Doc Rivers Needs to Make Adjustments to Draymond Green

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Yea Sterling issue was on the players mind but curry was hot making outrageous shots and this guy was being a pest to our offense made it even more difficult to stage a comeback. Green's defense reminds me of whatbTony Allen is doing to shut down Durant. I hope Doc has an answer to Green and the Warrior's small ball.

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someone suggested this on the other thread but if he inserts granger to the starting line up and isolate him against curry, it'll make curry work on both ends and actually may be in foul trouble.

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Having Blake post up against green and attack him this will cause Green to get into foul trouble.

The team needs to also attack the basket so they can get to the foul line.

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Blake needs to make quick and decisive plays. No hesitation.

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Green/GSW just got lucky and caught the Clippers with their pants down and no heart in the game from all the BS.

Doc and Blake just need to be who they are and all is well.

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Please don't mention Green and and Allen in the same sentence.

Blake has been eating Green alive in the post. Last game was a fluke,

obviously the team played with no heart.

This game will be different.

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Anyone else think that the moment Green started guarding Blake over Lee that the complexion of the series completely changed? Before game 4, Blake was having his way with Lee, doing whatever he wanted and it looked like we were just the better team. But once Green started guarding Blake and neutralized him, the scales tipped to make this a tight series. This guy is just killing us with his d on Blake, hustle, rebounds and steals. He's been getting so many loose balls and been everywhere. Without him, we would be the much better team but this guy is ruining our well laid plans and has completely neutralized Blakes post game. Blake is looking like the Blake of last year. Just looking lost at times in the post. I'm probably going to have nightmares about this guy cause he has been killing us.

Thoughts?

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There's not much Doc can do when the 3rd leading mvp candidate can't score against an unknown in iso situations. Superstars are supposed to destroy single coverage and Blake has been completely neutralized in the post by Green and has become almost an exclusive jump shooter. It's up to Blake to go after Green instead of folding like a cheap chair anytime Green gets physical. This isn't about adjusting on Docs part. It's about your superstar player being shut down by an unknown.

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He be me except Granger is playing like Bat Guano.

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No matter how good you are there is somebody who has your number. Green has BG's. It's up to the coach and BG to fix it

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doc doesn't need to do anything, Blake is the all-star, is what some say 3rd in MVP this season, is the leader of this team, its up to him to lead this team to a win and into the next round, no more excuses, a scrub should not be outplaying him, period

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Green can't defend Blake if Blake gets good position deep in the paint. They have curry coming down with the double team and Barnes was able to hit a few finally. They need to work and get Blake better position and force them to use a more foul prone defender to double Blake .

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Blake's body language has been terrible these past two games. Just holds the ball waiting for the double team to come. Don't know if he has a a family issue or is hurt, or probably just not playing well.

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He's hurt alright...Someone stole his heart, brain, and courage. Oh, and Toto stole his nuts.

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I have been really unhappy with docs in game management since game 4. If he says they aren't trusting, who's fault is that?

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Who do you think is DENYING Blake good position in the paint?

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This is the Memphis series all over again. He just seems to get discouraged against guys who are very physical with him. He just eats David Lee up cause Lee gives him space to operate but when Green is all up on him and doesn't give him an inch, he just accepts it and doesn't try to impose his will. And it seems like his basketball brain disappears when Green is on him because all he does is try to back Green down but Green doesn't budge lol and they do this for like 5 straight seconds until the double comes. He doesn't really try to shake Green with any of the moves that he possesses. It's just weird.

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Clippers had an off night, emotionally and mentally. Relax, Meditating and playing like they want this win more than GS is the key. Last night LAC played like they were trying to find their way out of a maze. The fans have waited all season to see LAC move to the next round. Play for us we've been there for you in good and bad times. Go Clippers. From your Nevada fans.

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Kind of off topic but still related. I didn't like how Rivers didn't exploit our size advantage in DJ over their bigs in the paint. It appears that DJ was able to get very good low post position and we only went to him one or twice. If DJ can get to within 5 feet from the basket, he has a great chance of converting against any of their bigs. Even Mike Smith mentioned this. I know Rivers is a great coach but he missed this one imo. We have to make them pay for going small. Blake obviously can't with Green on him so DJ should be used.

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They should have Blake coming off screens and pick and roll with DJto create space. This post up and create for himself is not working.

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Blake has the talent to take Green one on one but it's like he loses his brain when Green is on him and all the great post moves he has in his arsenal seems to disappear. Part of it is Green giving him no space. So he should face up and try to take him off the dribble instead of always trying to back him down. He's just not being creative when Green is on him. He has to dictate the action instead of letting Green dictate to him what he should do. I also think he gets discouraged cause Green is so physical for every inch on the court. I think Blake prefers a more open style where guys give him some room to operate. It's part of being a superstar player and adapting. Blake hasn't shown that he can adapt yet. Hopefully he can in game 7. This match up will be a huge factor in determining who wins game 7. If Green owns Blake again, we might be in trouble. That is unless if our other players shows up and cover for him.

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See there lies the problem. How can we advance if Blake doesn't like physical play?

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There's really no way to hide it. If Blake plays like he is doing against Green, we aren't going too far anyways. He is one of our main guys and has to play at a superstar level for us to go far.

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Beyond tired of that excuse. Sterling's banned, it should not be an issue anymore for a mentally strong team.

Face it, this team is just a playoff disappointment. Even if we win Game 7, we still shouldn't have needed a Game 7 to beat the Bogut-less Warriors, especially without Klay and Curry doing much damage. We have had every advantage this series and we're choking.

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BINGO!!!!! It doesn't matter that DJ doesn't have any post moves if he can get position,which he can, then he can just go straight up and score. When Green and Lee got their 5th's they should have gone to DJ for the easy buckets. I've been very, very impressed with DJ. Hands down, the best player of the series.

Blake should face up from the top of the key because he's too predictable from the left block and they double him successfully there. He also needs to step it up on the boards. DJ is the only one battling for rebounds out there. It's disgusting. Jamal Crawford has been able to blow by his defender all series long but looks for the foul too much instead of scoring. I think Jamal will be the X factor in game 7. We need a 25 pt performance from him.

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I was very, very disappointed that Doc didn't take advantage when their bigs were in serious foul trouble very early on. That could've changed the game completely, especially if Green had fouled out early. Their bigs simply can't handle DJ. He could establish very good post position when he wants too. That's a nightmare scenario for them and we let them off the hook. This just shows that even great coaches can miss things in the heat of the battle.

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Griffin just needs to attack early. Get Green in a little foul trouble with some help from the home court officiating, and then it should be smooth sailing.

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you also have to remember that game 1 the officiating was terrible and game 4 the sterling fiasco had recently surfaced. this is the first game that wasn't gift wrapped for the warriors.

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I'm starting to wrap my mind around the fact that this may not end the way we hope. Blake and Paul aren't getting it done.

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I thought the refs were pretty bad to be honest yesterday in favor of GS. A lot of our guys were PISSED off, like ready to explode at the ref pissed. Redick and Crawford aren't usually hot temprered guys but they were ready to explode after several no calls or getting called for what they thought weren't fouls. We attacked the basket several times where there seemed to be obvious contact and there was nothing. Makes me wonder if the theory that the NBA fixes the games to extend a series is actually true.

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CP3 and Blake must have been in on the fix since they completely disappeared. roll

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Blake had plenty of opportunities all night he would up open jump shots, slow to attack when waiting for the double team, instead using his speed. Mark Jackson isn't doing anything special it's just the clippers execution hasn't been good. They aren't using what works force them, Blake needs to stop backing down and face up before the double team comes, he's taking to long to attack, also he needs to take his open shots, if he makes a few shots then it would give him opportunities to attack the rim. Once Blake is established it will create shots for the rest of the team. Our guards need to be more patient and not chuck up 50 three's, and attack the rim, they have no rim protection.

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You guys know nothing it seems like. Haha... How dare you guys question blake when he HAS been posting and HAS been playing physical. He has a lot of action in the post this series some of you are too blind to see it. Why does he stop going to the post? CAUSE HE MAYBE HAS 4or 5 fouls!!! Haven't you guys thought about that? Instead of bashing blake pay attention, he strays away from posting up and being more physical as his fouls come in.

Do you guys know who's been really at fault this series? Chris fuckin Paul. He's really been underperforming. This is one reason why I love Tony Parker... HE GETS TO THE BASKET! He attacks! He's mentally tough pretty much at all times! Chris Paul just doesn't look to get his enough and if he does, he'll stop and miss more cause he has been missing and gets nervous to miss again.

How about we bash the players that's been in the league 4 years longer than Blake? Blake is not at fault, he's been dominant when not in foul trouble so please analyze accordingly and don't make it look like blake is "mentally weak" or "soft". Get that BS out of here.

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Completely agree although I'm a Lillard fan rather than Tony Parker!

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Uh Blake wasn't in foul trouble until late in third if I recall correctly. Where was he early in the game? Or game 5? Face it, Blake can't handle guys who crowd his space and play him with physicality. There was a reason he dominated when Lee was on him, but after Green was inserted into the lineup, he's struggled mightily. But of course when things come tumbling down, everyone points fingers at CP. Isn't he doing what all of you guys wanted to do? Defer to Blake, run the offence through Blake, let Blake lead this team? Not that Chris has played great, but his main responsibility is guarding Curry and he's doing great (even hobbled). People want Blake to carry this team, and this is what your getting.

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We should start Big Baby over BG maybe. Get Green a couple of early fouls and then bring in BG...lol just a thought.

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Really? Seems like you know nothing. CP3 has played amazing containing Curry. Parker could never contain Curry the way CP3 has. Maybe CP3's offensive game hasn't been consistent but he's stopped Curry in all but one game. BG has been a disappointment. He hasn't been able to guard anyone and it's now him who is responsible for the team defense breaking down. I'm always on BG side when it's him against CP3 but not this time. If all CP3 does is keep Curry from shooting threes, he's done his job more than admirably. Can't say the same for BG. Fouling is not playing defense.

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There was a play in last night's game where BG was pouting on one end and CP3 had to tap him on the back to get moving. That's been BG. Something goes wrong, he's body language changes and he takes himself out of the game. I'm getting tired of that shyte.

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Huge pressure is on Chris "never been out of second round" Paul

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I agree 100%. The problem is NOT CP3, it is BG. There are too many examples to cite.

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While I agree that CP3 is at fault, I watch the Spurs more than any other West team besides the Clippers, and Parker actually has a lot of the same issues as CP3. He overdribbles, he resorts to heroball, he's been known to vanish in big games. The only reason he avoids criticism is because Duncan and Pop have carried him to rings and Finals appearances his whole career and he plays in a small market that the national media doesn't care about.

We don't have a Speedy Claxton or a Steve Kerr to bench CP3 for in the clutch like the Spurs did with Parker during their dynasty years.

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If you go back and watch the game it has nothing to Do with GREEN. Blake is not being aggressive at all. In game 2 and 3 they had Green on him and he demolished him. Since game 3 blake has not looked like an All-star, let alone an MVP candidate.

He is taking way to long to attack the basket when he gets the ball. Again it has nothing to do with green, there were times he got the switch and had Cookie Klay Thompson and he still waited forever to make a move. HE needs to catch and go and play like a superstar.

Everybody else stepped up last 2 games EXCEPT Blake, our leading scorer. The best lineup on the floor last night

came after Blake fouled out.

Cp3 - Reddick/collison - JC - BArnes - DJ

That lineup got us back in the game. Flake Griffin needs to step it up game 7

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I don't see what's happening as a Green being that big if a factor. he is hustling and everything but Blake has shut himself down and made himself one dimensional.

When was the last time we saw Blake grab a rebound and push it up the floor. He Is been relegated to the halfcourt and not because he can't beat the warriors down the floor but because CP3 is back to over dribbling to compensate for the lack of ball handling abilities by Barnes and JJ.

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This doesn't make much sense tho. How does Blake grabbing a rebound and pushing it up the floor have anything whatsoever to do with Cp3 supposedly over dribbling.

If Blake grabs the rebound and pushes it Cp3 plays off the ball, as we have seen many times this season. Flake isn't pushing the ball because he has given up and doesn't care too much about a championship anymore.

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Lol, benching CP3 when the games on the line? You need to put aside your hatred for him aside and realise he will be taking the game winning shot 95% of the time and not Blake (not like he even wants to, but hope does gain confidence to take the crucial shots). The only person I remotely trust to take the last shot is Jamal, and he's probably going to launch a contested jumper.

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Have you seen his body language. Just jogs back up the court after a few missed shots, doesn't even seem interested in pushing the ball. It seems too easy for him to lose his confidence. And you are not going to get much fast break points in the playoffs. Sorry, but the game slows down, and teams have to have a half court offence whether you like it or not. Blake can rely on fast break points in the regular season, but not come playoff time.

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Who's FAULT was it? I don't give a rat pellet. The point is to find the weaknesses and fix them. That's Doc's job. We're in trouble because Jackson did his job. He beat us with an exhausted Steph and no bigs.. If Blake can't handle Green FOR WHATEVER REASON. Doc needs to make an adjustment. Kick him in the butt, have him face up whatever. Fault doesn't win games. Fault is right up there with whining and making excuses. If Doc does his job and BG or whoever doesn't it not Doc's fault. How can we stop the rebound disparity? Adjustments not fault. When it's someone's fault that means they have responsibility for a problem and laying blame splits teams. I know this is just a forum but talk like winners. How can we make it better. Again Doc, it's in your corner.

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Does anyone else think that maybe a way to combat Green is to post up DJ on David Lee? Lee is always looking to help on Blake and it could allow DJ to get good post position and get a high percentage shot. Even though he isn't the most reliable offensive player he might draw some fouls and get a better look than Blake or CP3 ISO plays.

I agree with most of the people here saying Blake's attitude has been different the last few games but I expect him to have a monster performance in Game 7 and play with the energy of the first few games. He is too good not to!

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It's a risk cos DJ so often gets stripped when he tries to post up. Might be worth a try.

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I didn't say fast break points. You push the ball because we are team that plays better early in the clock. We are not the Grizzlies so to hold the ball until under ten seconds and then throw it in the post hoping for a foul simply will not work for us. We push the ball hard to get quick hitters and early offense opportunities before the defense gets set. Of course you play half court offense in the playoffs but we shouldn't be consistently looking for shots in the last 7 seconds of the clock.

I would rather Blake or CP take a good shot with 13 seconds on the clock than have them take a contest shot with 3 seconds on the clock because ultimately its about flow and rhythm.

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I'm losing hope

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