How Should Clips Solve SF Inconsistent Production Problem

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ClipperKyle32
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I am wondering from you guys How Do You Believe the Clippers should handle their SF lack of production? Granger may get hot , but he honestly isn't getting any looks , but when he....

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Can't do anything. I think Dudley maybe out of his funk but I guess Doc gave up on him a long time ago

Dunkathon
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Only way Clips can solve this problem is in the offseason. There, you have one of several options.

  1. Do everything you can to resign Granger, while trading Dudley for a backup big.

  2. Go after Luol Deng.

I like the second option, but I'm not sure he'll take less money to play with the Clips.

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I really have thought about this before and came to the conclusion that we would get exactly what we need in Trevor Ariza. I believe we can afford him with Dudley traded and maybe (if we need it) the addition of salary-cap that may be added to all NBA teams. He is a really really great perimeter defender and lengthy. He can shoot the 3 very well (41% in reg season this year) and you can always assume that will go up with the mastermind play-maker CP3. Not to mention that he is always a decent rebounder. I personally would love to see Ariza in a Clips uniform!

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Granger is the answer once he gets in better shape... Can Deng shoot 3's? Obviously Lebron is #1...

MunoValente
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Dudley no matter who he plays for next year would probably best off adding some muscle and moving PF most of time time. The game is getting faster and smaller, he's not getting any younger and he has always had borderline speed at SF start with. He was a great PF in college and did good against Love when we played Minnesota a while back. Maybe Turkoglu could set him up with his dealer.

We're limited financially with what he can do next year, my guess is Barnes is back and starting next year.

Obviously you get Lebron if you can, but that isn't happening.

MunoValente
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It's been two years now and he's not getting younger, this might just be who he is now.

Clippersfan86
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Anybody notice how short Granger's leash is? Barnes has been God awful this entire series, Granger should start. His offense isn't much better but his D is much more consistent.

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With the cap space moving up to 63+ mil and the tax line moving up to +77 mil we will have a little more wiggle room which should help a bit...and maybe new ownership...maybe.

MunoValente
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We are committed to over $70 million already, so no way we get under cap, so we can use our exceptions and that is about it, but we also need to use our exceptions to keep/replace Collison and probably replace Davis, so it seems unlikely we can get anyone better than Barnes. We can try to do a trade, but again I don't think have any assets to get anyone better than Barnes. Barnes isn't having his best series, but was fine during season once he got himself together. He's our worst starter, but he's still better than the worst starters on most teams.

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I would Love a move in the offseason for Ariza or Deng, depending on price. I also wouldn't mind bringing back Granger and trading Duds to get a solid big man for the bench. I'm a big supporter of having bigger wings. I cringe every time I see DC having to switch on to Klay.

For now I would like to see a bit more of Granger on the floor. I also wouldn't mind seeing a little more of Granger and Barnes on the floor at the same time. I don't like seeing Jamal or JJ at the 3 it drives me nuts.

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I'm telling you guys, it's time to bring back Dudley. And I mean back into the starting lineup. Barnes is notorious for playing crummy or getting hurt in the playoffs. he's proving that now. Granger is just too highly inconsistent. He also has a tendency to make stupid fouls. While Dudley has his own problems, I think he'll be able to hit at a higher % than those guys. I've given Duds a hard time all season but I got this good feeling that bringing him in now will give us positive results.

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@Clipper*Joe, I think Duds is going to get a shot now with Hedo hurt. It might not be at the 3, but I think you are on to something about him being able to do damage. Especially when GoldenState goes to that small ball line up. I might not want to start him, but a good mix of him Granger and Barnes against the small ball line up could be beneficial.

I think match ups are key, and think Duds can make a huge difference if his shot starts falling.

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As much as I love all my clippers, Dudley looks sluggishly slow on defense moving his feet. But I definitely trust him more than Hedo with his shots.

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I think Barnes and Dudley are gone next year freeing up 7.5 million and depending IF a sale of the team goes though the new owners might head into tax territory if need be, depending on the players their after. A more productive SF can be had, maybe not a "star" player (Unless we trade DJ), but a above average one.

Some other avenues can be done too, but since one of our players is getting a award I won't start a riot on the site right now. Very Happy

MunoValente
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Even if we straight dump both we aren't under cap, so we can't just go and sign someone for that amount, we are still limited to our exceptions.

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IMO, I think we should Matt in the post and Blake work at the elbows as a spot up shooter or cutter. It doesn't actually have to be every play, it's just to mix it up.

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Show me a team that gets great production from the 1-5 spot.

Doesn't exist today mainly become of the salary cap and

teams willing to spend a lot more money on decent-good players

than ever before.

Barnes at the 3 might be the best we get, and With cp3, Reddick, Blake,

and DJ I'm fine with the 3 being our weak link.

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Simple answer, bring back Al Thornton

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I say we leave Barnes as the starter. He's not perfect, but it's too late to start shuffling around the starting line up. If we had an alternate option that was clearly better, then I'd support it, but is starting Granger really the answer? I'm all for giving Granger significant playing time, but I don't think inserting him into the starting line up would solve much. Both him and Barnes are streaky shooters, who haven't done much in the playoffs. Let's just cross our fingers and hope Barnes catches fire from three soon.

ClipperKyle32
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I do agree that the playoffs are better suited for Jared Dudley. I hope he gives us some GREAT minutes with Hedo out Collison Crawford Dudley Granger Davis Really small lineup with no one over 6'9 i don't think Really powerful offensively.....

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Heediot
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I still have hope for Bullock. He struggled with his shot late in the year and was inconsistent overall, but I still feel he can develop into a 3-d/role player.

ClipperPostman
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I really would like to know the logic behind this... He sucked ass 82 games during the regular season... All

of a sudden he is ready to kill it in the playoffs? I'm confused.

ClipperKyle32
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I just believe the game slows down. But he did suck for the regular season , but he was battling knee issues as well. I just dint know. Every since Barnes started we havent seen....

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MunoValente
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He was a lot better post-all star break. His shooting was still inconsistent, but his rebounding and defense was much better, but he was playing less minutes, so his numbers didn't look like much. I don't think he should start, but he should get Turkoglu's minutes tonight and if does well from there we can try to use him some more. He was good for the Suns in the playoffs the year the made they made the conference finals with him.

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Well I hope so man. We could use another shooter making shots.

His dribble penetration and decision making has been an abomination tho.

MunoValente
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Dudley just wasn't up to speed tonight, but Crawford at SF was working out ok. Tighter rotation is likely the way to go for game 7.

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wonder why granger isn't getting any minutes?

kjavis
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the criticism for granger is not just, the guy has played bugger all minutes to get into any groove, give jamal credit, there are very few players that can come of the bench and just flat out score immediately like he does. i don't know why granger is not starting, barnes has always been intended to be a backup impact bench player, but now he is a lock as a starter, makes no sense other than when he was hot after allstar break.

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Personally I think Granger in the starting line up could help. At least it would force them to have to put Curry on JJ or Paul since he is too small to cover Granger. Granger can post him up and get pretty good shots in my opinion.

I know I'm contradicting what I wrote above, but I'm actually tired of all the posting up. I wish they would move the ball up and get into sets quickly. I feel they are taking to long and letting the defense set.

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This is more of an offseason question than about the playoff matchup but what would you guys think of a CP3 for Paul George and George Hill trade? Just looking at the recent champion teams none of them have really had a superstar point guard and it seemed better for Blake's growth when CP3 was out and allowed him to have the ball in his hands more and act as a playmaker. Paul George is a capable ball handler, creates his own shot, is a good shooter and is an elite defender. It just seems teams can regularly put a bigger, longer defender on Paul and he struggles which leads to the team struggling because we can't punish them for it. Just interested to hear people's thoughts.

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I actually like the direction you are going with this. That would be a good trade, but we would keep Collison and have Hill as a back up, he's not a legit starter in my opinion

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Granger has really bad knees. It's painful to watch him walk to the lockerroom, a Clipper employee told me. Barnes is being guarded by Curry, who is the worst defender in the NBA. Dudley must really be too slow and suck to not get a longer look at small forward at this point in the series. I agree that the Clippers need to go with a three guard lineup.

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Yeah for sure, I think George Hill and Jamal would work really well off the bench because Hill does like to defer ball handling duties.

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