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namzug
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Which areas do you think should be addressed this offseason? I've listed a few things that I think need to be addressed as well as some ideas that I think would help.

  1. Perimeter Rebounding- Outside CP our perimeter rebounding was terrible in my opinion. CP was great, Barnes was good when he didn't leak out, and Granger was a good rebounder in my opinion; the rest were terrible.

  2. Wing Defense- I think we give JJ a pass on this to much due to his effort, but I'm not convinced he's a good or average defender. Worst yet is that he is our best defender at the 2 spot, unless we are talking about CP playing there. Matt did ok, Granger I felt would be in good position most of the time but fouled too much. Duds was similar to Granger but lacked the length to be on par with Granger. Dribble penetration killed us and made our defense look suspect in way too many games.

  3. Players leaking out instead of boxing out- I think Blake was the main culprit, but Matt did it a few times too.

  4. DJ's Free Throws- He has to get over 50%, which I think he will work on it just hoping it's effective work.

  5. Dribble Penetration- I think we had this going sometimes, but it was inconsistent. When CP, DC, or even Jamal were aggressive we usually had a much better result, or when Blake was facing up and attacking quickly.

  6. Defensive rotations- would be higher on my list but they seemed to get better towards the end of the season, so I'm guessing it's being worked on still.

These are just based off my opinions on what I saw during the season and playoffs.

To fix 1, 2 and 5 will take upgrades at the wing positions in my opinion. I feel JJ and Jamal bring too much of the same thing, they just bring it in different ways. We all know the 3 spot needs an upgrade or something.

I think if KG retires and he is brought onto the staff, he could help coach up 3 and 6.

4 will just take solid work from DJ and some damn confidence in himself. He can't be changing the trajectory mid-season, now if that different trajectory is key keep and get better. Figure what works, then stick with it.

laboy
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any new player we get has to be good on defense period...

I was thinking 2 players...one point guard and one center or small forward..

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Can't do anything about perimeter rebounding unless we move either J.J. or Jamal, and perimeter defense might also fall into that.

1) Wing defense via player movement

2) Backup C situation

namzug
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Is Sefalosha a free agent, I think he could solidify that. Deng is probably the popular vote, but I'm guessing he will get too much money somewhere else. I also would like to try to get Josh Harrelson from Detroit if we can, I'd rather have him than Hollins.

I think our Perimeter rebounding will get better with an improvement at the 3 as well, but agree that 2 position might be the key to wing defense.

Personally I don't feel attached to JJ and I could get over trading Jamal. Don't get me wrong I like JJ and Jamal, I love when JJ is coming off the screens and moving off the ball; just think they both bring an offensive mind set and eventually the same thing just in different ways.

laboy
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clippers need a center...back up or not..

get one in the draft period!!!

second,trade dudley for a point guard in the draft..

someone to give paul a break..

third..

get a free agent sf..

forth

get an assistant coach like mark jackson or another crafty guy to run the offense..

gentry was ...whatever..

remember him when he coached the clips before...average..

jackson is a bit ghetto...but will bring some toughness and is very creative in his lineups..

I mean ...if they had bogut...they would have beaten us..

namzug
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A huge pass on Mark Jackson, and kick some dirt at him while we pass. I'd say upgrading the Small Forward position should be priority. Followed by the Back up Center.

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@laboy

The Clippers were #1 in PPG and offensive efficiency, #3 in FG% and points per shot and #4 in assisted FG%.

Alvin Gentry was not "whatever". He orchestrated the best offense in the league.

namzug
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@laboy, I saw you asking for Maxi Pad Jackson on another thread too. I suspect a bit of trolling here. Maybe the names W. Green or R Blaine ring a bell? If they don't disregard.

Don't like Maxi at all, he's crap in my opinion. The only thing that sucks worse than him on ESPN is that GSW might get a good coach as a replacement.

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I think its hard to say what we should improve upon because our superstars have yet to be pushed to their limits.

Blake hit double digit rebounding ONE Time in 13 games

CP had more than 5 fta in a game ONE time in 13 games

We won the battle of the boards 3 times in 13 games.

We shot the 3rd most fta but had only the 11th best percentages out of the 16 playoff teams. We had more FTA than OKC and the heat.

The issues we have are about fine tuning some areas and our superstars being able to fill in the gaps.

Icecoldclipper
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Need to get bigger on the bench and have better decision making when Paul sits. Blake has to return more to his face up post game and Jordan needs to work harder at the line and in traffic off the pass.

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We need another big, hopefully one with a bit of range, that can still bang.

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sorry, wrong thread.

laboy
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@cleepers..

not the best offense in the league...

and the offense did not look too great against a golden state team without a center..

if they had met san antonio...you would have seen our deficiencies...center position..sf,even blake would have had a tough series..

oklahoma with their 3 trick pony of a team should have been a breeze ...and we could not even beat them..well we almost did (choke)!!!

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Yes... the best offense in the league. That is a fact. Every single offensive metric puts us in the top-4... AST/TO, FG%, TS%, effFG%, assFG%, and most commonly used: offensive efficiency (points per 100 possessions), where we ranked #1 in the entire league, despite being horrible at the line. Unfortunately, we were only 7th in DEFENSIVE efficiency, slipping to 10th in the postseason.

And regardless of how you think we "looked" against the Warriors, we averaged 111ppg which is an astounding number against statistically the best defense in the west, with or without Bogut... and especially in the playoffs. The trouble is, we let them score MORE efficiently against us in the postseason than they managed to do against the whole league all year long!

We went on to average >107ppg against OKC... the third best defensive team in the west, with ALL their guys healthy. You're confusing a string of bad plays where we tried to run out the clock and hold a lead with our offense as a whole, which was truly elite.

Any problems we would have had against San Antonio - and I agree there would have been plenty - would have been due to us being unable to STOP them. They may have slowed our scoring a little, but we could have expected to average AT LEAST 105ppg (since both teams are top-6 in pace, with the Clips being #1), which should be more than enough to win a series against ANY team... if you have an elite defense... which we don't.

If you look at playoff games only, we scored only 1.5 points per 100 possessions fewer than San Antonio across all games - and we played against much better defensive teams - but we gave up 7.6 points MORE!!!

Our offense was great. Alvin Gentry was great. If you really believe that ANY of our problems were at that end of the court, then you must have been changing channels every time the ball changed possession.

We need defense. Rebounding too, but mostly defense, and mostly on the wings. Alvin Gentry is the LAST guy in the organization who should be replaced.

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One job gone and Gentry is still on the board. Good news

ClipperKyle32
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One job gone and Gentry is still on the board. Good news
That Is what I said. I was like Whew! Gentry's offense was one of a kind last season. We need to build a....

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I honestly feel that Vinny Del Negro is a great fit for the Cavs and the direction the franchise wants to go. VDN knows how to coach great point guards, saw it with Derrick Rose and saw it to a lesser extent with Chris Paul (Del Negro had to do less). Need to keep Gentry

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I can get the rebounding, but I don't get the significance of cutting off FTA by over 5, just seems arbitrary. He had 5 exactly or more 8/13 games. I'm not sure why that cut off is really of significance to be honest.

Cleepers, laboy is one of those people who just makes stuff up. For example, saying our offense didn't look good against GS when GS has the worst Drtg in the playoffs because the Clippers offense was killing them.

...but hey, facts are not comparable to laboy's thoughts.

Some people still seem to think that a good offense never has bad possessions, they'll ingrain in heir brain the few times when the offense had to use more clock or take a bad shot and act like that was he majority of the time or something.

I actually think our offense would be fine against SA, but our defense would get a killed and people will still be thinking "if we just scored better" lol.

cleepers
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Yeah. I hate to say it, but often the trolls we get here are actually more informed than some of our own fans.

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All that Best This and Best That means nothing. We lost. Yes the refs screwed us but we lost.

I posted this on another thread but here's what I saw with SAS. Watching them was like jumping into a pool of cold water and having my ball* and di*k shrink to the point of being unfindable. It is a work of art. If any of you say they were unfindable to begin with you will DIE.

THEY HAVE PLAYED TOGETHER FOR A LONG TIME. Their coach is the star not a BIG ANY NUMBER. Pop would bench Duncan if Timmy screwed up. They have guys of high character. There is no chest thumping. THEY HAVE PLAYED TOGETHER A LONG TIME. The system wins not "LeBron" or the Big Three. They got lucky with Green and Leonard. Pop finds the way to play to each player's strength. They have a feeling that they should be champions. THEY HAVE PLAYED TOGETHER A LONG TIME. Popavich is GOD. There is no chest thumping.

CP is better than Parker, While BG isn't as good as Timmy he can be MVP.

Our center needs to have some ability to score in the post. WE have no starting SF. Matt was OK but then we had no back up. JJ couldn't defend. Dudley was a waste. I doubt we can get rid of him. Maybe he can play back up PF. Jamal has to play within the offense not save us from broken plays. He can be streaky. This team has no personna except getting screwed by refs and being a Mexican Soap Opera. For whatever reason we've faded in the second round of the PO's. That is our personna.

We lack a SG, a back up PG, a back up center, a back up PF, a wing defender. Our PG and SG are undersized. We probably are stuck with Dudley and we don't have a lot of cap. WE have Bullock who MAY be OK. Matt and Jamal will be a year older and Jamal can't defend. Forget FT's DJ has to be able to score more than put backs. He needs to draw some attention as the Roll Man

We are the closest to the Spurs. We don't have the "Splash Brothers" Or Westrant and Dubrook. We don't have Marc Gasol and Zbo. We don't have Le Bron. (I'd kill for Klay at SG). We also have a lot of holes to fill. 50-50 we get Pierce

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beg to differ on El Poppo.... yes he can coach, and the Spurs run a solid organization, and.... he'd be squat w/o Duncan.... he fired his coach as soon as he got TD and anointed himself HC.... sack of potatoes move (as GM) that no one seems to recall.

and re: our Clipps, our problem is wing defense and the ill fated trade that brought in JJ and Dudley.... luckily Doc held serve and we made it through a round of the playoffs.... am afraid that Doc is not the best personnel man, and would do well to defer to Gary & Co. and be more of the HC/face of the franchise.

personally was hoping for Hardaway in the draft as our sg of the future, just like I'm hoping for GR3 as our sf of the future in this upcoming draft. for some reason we seem to be a bit squeamish/gunshy 'bout the draft lately.... don't know if it's a Paul George repercussion/residue, and.... that has to change.

props to Olshey for pulling off the CP3 upgrade.... now we gotta pull up our straps and find us some wing players, and yes.... we can use some backup bigs and maybe a backup pg too, and.... some of 'em are gonna have to come via the draft.

laboy
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to agent zero...

if golden state had bogut playing...they would have beaten us...period!!! end of story!!

we got lucky that he got hurt..

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F*ck! this sucks.

JQuick32
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**** Alvin Gentry. Taking the same job with a rival team is pretty low.

namzug
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When looking at what we are missing I'm thinking what is necessary to win the finals? I don't think we are Shumpert (alone away from the finals). I don't think we need a Carmelo or Lebron either, not that it wouldn't make things easier though.

I think Wing defense and athleticism is a must- this will cost JJ or Jamal and Duds. Ariza would be a good fit, or a combo of Sefolosha or Shump plus a slew of options like Marvin Williams, Aminu, Wes and Beasley.

One good back up big. We all have different opinions of who that good back up is, but I think most have a good idea. Jason Smith, Channing Frye, Jordan Hill, and Andrey Blatche are all good options here.

I also believe we need a coach specifically for the Bigs. I'd love for it to be KG if he retires. Camby wouldn't be a bad idea if he's done playing. Okafor as a player/mentor depending on price demands and health.

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This is just the way it works with any professional sports league. Gentry probably thinks he has a better shot of getting the head coaching job there than with the Clips, especially if Kerr turns out to be a bust.

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