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cleepers
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This is by Larry Coon, so there may be some relevant cap-related info as to how it could be done, since he's considered a top cap guru.

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Here you go:

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Cheers, Boom.

I'm against giving up Blake, seeing as he hasn't even entered his prime yet. Seems to me like LeBron could use a team with cap space as leverage...

"Trade me to the Clips for DJ, Jamal and pieces or I'm walking to a cap space team for nothing".

I guess they could call his bluff, but even the cap space team could clean up from the Clips if THEY executed a S&T with us for him. Seems to me that LeBron holds all the cards. Unfortunately, I think he likes and trusts Riley enough to give him this next year to "rebuild" whatever needs rebuilding in Miami.

ClippersDA
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I don't want to lose blake

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Griffin was untradeable when Sterling was at the helm, but I honestly don't know if that's the case anymore with Ballmer.

I really hope he views Blake as highly as most Clipper fans.

Here Miami, you can have DJ, Crawford, Dudley, Collison, Bullock, every draft pick we will own in the future and Mr. Riley gets some stocks in Microsoft. There now give is the King.

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My thoughts exactly. LeBron's good enough to make any team a contender, so really, threatening to go to any team with cap space would give him a lot more leverage than the media thinks he would have. Additionally, Riley is known for doing right by his players, so it'd be way out of character for him to try to screw over LeBron if he wants to go elsewhere. He understands better than most that even if you have to make a hard sacrifice in the short term, the long term effects of doing right by your players will always be favorable for your organization. Finally, Miami's asking price might start with Blake, but you never see star-for-star swaps in the NBA for a reason, mainly because the star who wants out is always the person with the most leverage and the least desire to make their future supporting cast worse.

Miami is still the favorite obviously, but with personal friends of LeBron in the owner's box, on the coaching staff, and on the roster, as well as the advantages of the second largest media market, I don't think any other team outside of Miami can make a better pitch to him than us. I actually have a good feeling about our chances, the same feeling I had about a CP3 trade literally a year before it happened.

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It is interesting to discuss, but it just seems so far-fetched. I also am not crazy about becoming the team that just stockpiles players because they got a new owner.

To me, it would be incredibly gratifying to see the team we have now have another year together, under Doc, without the Sterling BS going on, and see THEM win it, as a team.

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This team is one big move away from contention. I think anyone but blake and Chris are fair game

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If Lebron wants to come play for us, I would give up Blake in a heartbeat. Two future HOF's that are the best at their respective positions. Miami gets to build around Blake and the Clips have a chance to get a ring. It's about what's best for the Clippers after all Wink

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Isn't Blake the best at his position also?

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After 44 years of ****, beggars can't be choosers when it comes to getting a ring. Give me LeBron and a championship any day of the week.

ClippersDA
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No guarantees about getting a ring, spurs were a bounce away from winning the title last season, and okc were too green the year before

JQuick32
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Spurs were an absolute fluke shooting performance from Danny Green away from going out with a whimper and several injuries in the West away from not even making the Finals. If that Ray Allen shot happened for one of Jordan or Kobrick's teams, it'd be described as "the will to win" or "clutch," but since it benefited LeBron, it's "he got lucky," "fluke." roll

OKC was favored going in and won game 1. They weren't "too green," they just flat-out collapsed combined with dominance from King James.

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When Green repeats his shooting performance again this year, will it still be a fluke? Because he can, and he will. Very Happy

JQuick32
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Considering how he followed up his hot shooting by going 2-19 from the floor in the last two games of the series (including a John Starks-esque 1-12 shooting night in Game 7) once defensive attention was paid to him, I doubt Miami is concerned too much with that.

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Just means that Pop and co have to do a better job of getting him open. He's a role player (let's be clear about that), so I don't see him generally doing well on Miami's court anyway. Spurs have home court though, so we'll see how this all turns out.

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You know you can have Lebron and MAYBE a championship right now, right? Game one doesn't start until tomorrow. Beggars my ass.

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This is my take too and the answer to the question is.................... no,LeBron ain't moving.

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Getting Lebron will most likely leave us pretty depleted, and we know CP3 is guaranteed to miss some time.

I chose to root for the Clippers 20 years ago because they were the underdog. Getting a new owner and swooping in on the best player on the planet seems to be such a drastic shift, I struggle to get too excited about it (the LeBron part and suddenly becoming the IT team, I am excited Sterling is gone). I think the team as-is with a few minor tweaks can become a perennial championship contender.

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I DO NOT WANT LEBRON JAMES at the cost of a younger LeBron esque player in Blake Griffin! I do not want to buy a Championship. I WANT TO BUILD ONE. That's why I love That Spurs Billboard. Built Not Bought. We have a Core of Blake and CP3! BUILD AROUND THEM! We'd be crazy to move them. LeBron isn't really a floor spacer. Now If it was LeBron for DJ,Jamal, and a young asset in Bullock then yes. If LeBron wants to leave and play here. Miami has no choice , but to let the best player in the world walk or get the most they can out of it. Like So

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Again getting a 30 year old LeBron James for the up and coming and 3rd in MVP Ranking 25 Year Old Blake Griffin. I just can't do that. I am looking at the future. Ballmer doesn't know much about ball so I'd assume he would still leave all major decisions to Doc and Gary , but now Andy is gone. I wish Oshey was back. Look what he did in Portland. Still their bench sucked arse , but whatever.

Does anyone else think a 25 year old Blake Griffin still sorta raw and hasn't even eclipsed his prime is better than a 30 Year Old LeBron at the tail end of his if we are thinking about the future and for the franchise. I mean do not get me wrong I would love LeBron James , but at the cost of Blake. That's a No for me. I honestly think DJ or Chris , even though I love him , are the only two involved in a blockbuster trade. Not Blake. He was drafted a Clipper and I think he will and should stay a Clipper and retire as a Clipper and have his jersey retired.

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Only way lebron comes to LA is through free agency. Ballmer/Rivers will refuse to trade Blake.

JQuick32
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To be fair, a "perennial championship contender" is hardly the "underdog" we all started out rooting for as Clipper fans regardless of who's on the roster.

JQuick32
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If that's the case, you probably should have been against the CP3 trade because we didn't draft him.

I'll never understand the obsession NBA fans have with how players were acquired. You never see this "built, not bought" crap in football or hockey. How is drafting a player morally superior to signing or trading for one?

By the way, nobody - not even the pro-LeBron crowd - wants to trade Blake. The chances of him being traded even if we do get LBJ are infinitesimally low, IMO.

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Bron would be crazy to leave Miami until at least somebody else wins a championship. If Spurs win this year and Wade plays like **** in the series, maybe he looks around.

I almost would rather he just stays there permanently. If Bron ends up in the West and not on our team, that would bad for basically the whole league.

I'd trade Blake for Bron but I'd feel guilty about it. Would actually rather trade CP but that would probably defeat the purpose for Bron.

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Yeah but it is the way we get there. I of course want the Clippers to be successful. But I am not thrilled about the idea of the Clippers totally changing overnight, swooping up Lebron, and essentially being a different team.

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Lebron would not come here if we trade CP3 for him since he wants to come here to team up with CP3. Not sure if its even possible without trading Cp3 or Blake for Lebron.

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Agreed. Unless he comes here for the mid-level (very doubtful), it seems like a pipe dream.

JQuick32
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The franchise already changed overnight when Blake was drafted.

ClipperRevival
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No thanks. Don't want to give up Blake.

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Griffin is the reason why the Clippers became who they are today. If we're ever winning a championship, we're doing it with him.

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Because the Clippers won 32 games in his first season?!!?

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Of course Blake changed the outlook of the franchise. Without Blake, CP3 is less willing to accept a trade to the Clippers.

How well did MJ or LeBron do their first years in Chicago and Cleveland? How did Kobe do against Utah in his first playoff series?

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Benny, you are missing the point. I am not criticizing Blake. Quick and I have been going back and forth on our respective feelings about going after Lebron.

Of course Blake changed the franchise, but it was not like all of a sudden, we instantly "overnight" became contenders. It took a few years.

BennyBeFly
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Also, winning is winning. Stockpile this team and make us a perennial favorite. I liked that Clips were the underdogs before, but part of the fun in cheering for the underdog is for the oneday that they become the favorite -- reaching their full potential that we've seen in them for all these years!

Give me a big 3 of Blake, LeBron, and CP3. After all these years I think I deserve to see that epicness on the court.

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stopped reading immediately when he suggests griffin gone

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It took CP to make us contenders. Blake just made us exciting, but we were still not playoff (let alone championship) contenders until the CP trade

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I'd be shocked if Blake (and CP3) didn't have no trade clauses. They recently signed extensions and those are pretty popular for top tier players. Heck, even Redick has a trade kicker in his contract which increases his salary if he is traded.

Thus, any trade of superstars generally requires the acquiescence of both stars. There is little reason for Blake to accept a trade to Miami if LeBron isn't there so it is a non-starter with him.

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Correct.

JQuick32
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After seeing how pathetic Miami was without him on the floor, if I'm LeBron, I'm at least strongly considering the Clippers. Physically, he's not going to hold up from carrying a team of scrubs and two extremely overrated "superstars" who can't function without him anymore - the cramps he keeps having in the Finals every year are evidence of that.

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Agreed, If I am LeBron I walk from Miami. They make him do so much. He has to rebound, he has to assist, he has to run the offense, he has to score, he has to get steals, and he has to defend the opposing teams best player night in and out and it is taking a toll on his body. If LeBron is willing to take a load off of him and take less and I mean ALOT LESS money to play with Blake and CP3 then HeY! Go At It. I just do not believe LeBron's body can hold up on a team that needs so much from him like Miami and even Cleveland. He would have Chris to run the Offense and all of the other players can do the other work , LeBron would then only have to contribute , but also he would have to be a star. Maybe Bob Thate can work on his 3 point shot like he did with Jason Kidd. I ONLY WANT LEBRON IF HE WILL TAKE A WHOLE LOT LESS MONEY. to still win, but yet not do as much as in Miami and Cleveland. If I am LeBron I am looking at my career. I have a chance to play in LA, with the 2nd best Coach in the NBA, the best PG and PF in the NBA, but it will cost me money , but my body can't afford many seasons of being THAT DO IT ALL GUY. Even Micheal had help that actually helped. Chris and Blake are better for LeBron than Wade and Bosh as far as help and consitency. And If I am LeBron I seriously consider them over Miami for WAY LESS MONEY! Make More Money and still do it all , or take WAY WAY WAY less and be in the position to win for the next 4 - 5 years, and not have to do it all.

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LeBron is a great player but I honestly want to see him go back to Cleveland, not here. Plus we'd have to give up DJ and/or Blake, which is completely unacceptable in my book. The core we have right now is really solid and they need to stay together. DJ is only going to get better and the same goes without saying for Blake and we all know that Chris brings it every season and even he gets better every season. No need to break up a working developing unit. We do need to add pieces yes but at the cost of breaking up those 3 is not worth it to me.

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Really? If I'm Lebron, I'm never leaving Miami as long as I keep making the Finals. Playing in the pathetic Eastern conference with a president who you know will do everything it takes to win a ring? Why would anyone leave that? Plus, if leaves for yet another team, it will tarnish his reputation in the eyes of even more people, justified or not.

It would be great if Lebron came to the Clippers, but odds are he'll stay in Miami for the rest of his career.

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Dunkathon wrote:
Really? If I'm Lebron, I'm never leaving Miami as long as I keep making the Finals.

It's becoming a Pyrrhic victory at this point since his body is breaking down under the physical stress of dragging his crap supporting casts to rings.

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Playing in the pathetic Eastern conference with a president who you know will do everything it takes to win a ring? Why would anyone leave that?

With the Clippers he'd have a better team and people he knows and trusts in all areas of the organization. It's not like we're Cleveland.

JQuick32
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As the years go on, it's clear that the vast majority of his haters are never going to change their minds about him until he retires. He needs to make the right decision for his career instead of worrying about what a bunch of no-life losers like Skip Bayless tweet about him. At the end of the day, Shaq's legacy wasn't hurt by playing for a bunch of different teams, why would LeBron's?

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Can somebody please post this article? Thanks!

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You are aware that he's had the cramp problem going back to HS, right?

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Think about this for a second....

if the clips truly have a contendar status without lebron how much more would it mean to win a championship without HIM without that "best player in the planet" on their roster... I am all for bring the best of the best but I also believe we have one of the best teams as is. After being in "laughing" status for the last 20+ years, I believe the clips organization owes it to themselves to win at least once without a lebron type player.....

wait we have a lebron type we call him "la beastia" aka "the beast".....

I'm just saying

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That's debatable. I'm not buying into it. Gay >>Prince. I for one am happy to watch them struggle on the offensive end. They would have been better with Gay and the improvement of Conley and Allen. They have a definite weakness (much like us) at the three since moving Gay.

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Think about what it took to get Cp3. Gordon, Aminu, Kaman and our 1st rounder. Without giving up Cp3 and Blake, realistically what would it take to get Lebron?

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DJ, JJ, and probably two first rounders makes sense to me

Only way it's even possible is if SA finds a way to beat Miami. No way LBJ leaves a shot at a 4peat on the table.

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