Donald Sterling Nixed Arron Afflalo Deal At Last Second

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Clippersfan86
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God this guy is a piece of trash. According to Ramona Shelburne the Clippers had the Bledsoe for Afflalo deal done (I and many others wanted that one) and Sterling nixed it at the last second. Mind you this same Afflalo averaged 21 ppg last year and is a good defender. He's still 27 and only making 7 million a year for three more years. Redick was great but Afflalo+Nicholson (decent backup big we needed) would of been a hell of a lot better. Sterling is a cancer and a dark cloud hanging over this franchise. If not gone soon, he may sabotage our free agency and ability to make trades. Bring on the Ballmer era!

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I prefer JJ at $6.5mil for 3 more years to Afflalo at $7.5mil for 2 more years...especially if we get LeBron.

I would like Afflalo if we end up trading JJ or Jamal for LeBron.

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Thanks Joe. I still don't know how to post those.

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I wish there were some way in hell we could still get Afflalo lol

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Well hell... Would they take Jamal? Redick and Afflalo?

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Hahahaha! I can't believe this guy.

So there was first Caron Butler for Ariza, then Bledsoe to possibly get Afflalo and Sterling screwed them both up? Wow, the guy is just terrible, wow, so annoyed.

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How amazing is it that we have become a perennially good team DESPITE this clown throwing a wrench in so many things??

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Just get the link of the tweet and post it by using the twitter tab on the toolbar.

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ClipperKyle32 wrote:
I wish there were some way in hell we could still get Afflalo lol

Well, looks like we are trying.

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Afflalo would be great on this team. We would finally have a real 3 and D player.

Agent0
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We've had two chances blown by Sterling, seems like he's not a fan of 3/D players.

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Afflalo is a guard we need a small forward...

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We would have had a team of

Paul

Afflalo

Ariza

Griffin

Jordan

?????

FU Donald. We almost didn't get Redick. it came to the point of Doc pressuring to quit to get it done

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Yup we also had Ariza bagged. I love Kyle's lineup. So much wing 3+D between CP3/Afflalo/Ariza!

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This would have been last season before getting Redick, so it would have made a lot of sense.

86, I don't think that lineup was possible. I believe the Afflalo trades required Caron to match contracts, so we couldn't have traded Caron for Ariza and then gotten Afflalo also. BUT, since Bledsoe is what Orlando wanted, it was still possible as long as we found the filler contract(s) (Odom's expiring, Billups' $4M) to go along with Bledsoe for Afflalo. I've proposed that lineup before, and I think it is great, but Sterling killed any chance of that, so whatever.

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How would we have got Ariza if we traded Butler to Orlando?

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Yup, that's what I said, but we also had Odom's expiring, since what they wanted was Bledsoe and Butler was just a filler, but yes, the original trades to Orlando were Caron + Bledsoe to get Afflalo.

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Ahhhh. I forgot the timing of it I suppose. Nonetheless... I'm sure we would of come out much better with Afflalo in his career year and Nicholson, a quality backup big.

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I remember Orlando saying they wanted a veteran starting SF and that's why they wanted Caron.

They most likely wouldn't have been interested in Odom.

I think our roster would've looked very similar to our roster right now with Afflalo instead of JJ and no Dudley.

If we traded Caron for Ariza we wouldn't have a starting SG. Either way I think we would have holes in our roster.

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Well he resisted the urge to decline the CP3 trade because he was afraid of disrupting chemistry, so that kinda helped us

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Interesting, didn't know about that desire, I thought they just wanted an expiring and were really only interested in Bledsoe. Considering their roster, and the need to develop, a desire for a veteran SF as opposed to just keeping Afflalo seems so weird. Seems like just going back to the same starting spot where you want to move an older guy to give minutes to the younger guys.

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I'm not even positive about them wanting Caron, but I vaguely recall them being interested in him.

And also wasn't Odom's contract already off the books when we were trying to get Afflalo?

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Damn!!! I really wanted/want Afflalo! As I've said before, he's much more consistent, had a better 3 point % last season surprisingly , less injury prone, and plays MUCH better perimeter defense than Redick. I wish Doc can still get a trade done for Afflalo this off season. I would rather pick up someone like him than dismantle the whole team to get another superstar.

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Sterling got in the way of a lot of trades. I don't remember the source but during the talks for the J.J. Redick for Bledsoe trade he almost sabotaged them. Apparently he told source that he (Sterling) was the final decider, not Doc Rivers. Ultimately, he allowed Doc to do his job but he was revealing signs that he had never changed

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If you trade before the draft it's fine, I don't remember when it was exactly tbh

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Who knows how many trades DTS has nixed for us. CP/Afflalo/Ariza/BG/DJ would be an absolutely menacing team.

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Not sure what we'd give Orlando back. They had JJ, and while he's very popular there, they want younger, so that doesn't make sense. We don't have any young talent that would get us Afflalo. Only way would be if they wanted Crawford and Bullock and then cut Crawford to save salary space but they don't really need salary space so not sure how that helps them either.

Also, not sure how they plan to play him and JJ. JJ was brought for a specific offense that Doc wanted to run and he constantly commented that 1/2 the playbook went out the window when JJ was hurt. Both Afflalo and JJ are too small to play SF consistently (and Orlando briefly tried it) so they can't both start. Afflalo would then probably start over JJ but now you are again throwing out 1/2 the playbook for the starters. Afflalo is great but he doesn't have the catch and shoot, screen movement ability of JJ so he can't really replicate the offense. Maybe the plan is to move to JJ but not sure for what? Maybe Taj Gibson in a package deal?

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I'm pretty sure Butler would have been in the Affalo deal so it's either Affalo or Ariza,I don't think we could have had both but that would be a great starting 5.

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The Ariza deal which was mid-season would have happened first, so if Orlando's end goal was to get Bledsoe as I assume Caron was more of a filler than anything, then we could have worked something out to match the contracts if we really had to.

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Nothing against JJ but I think Afflalo would have been a much better fit mainly because he's less of a liability defensively. Bigger and quicker 2 guards picked on JJ last year. Damn you Sterling, hope that's the last time you mess up a good thing.

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Well, there goes that.

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clipperboy24
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Dude this sucks. We could have had him, what is wrong with our FO?

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We could have traded Crawford who only has $1.5mm guaranteed and a filler to bring to $6mm since it just needs to be within 20%. This sucks.

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I'm assuming they like Fournier, he's pretty decent, but basically Denver trade the 20th pick (Fournier) and the 56th pick for Afflalo. I think the issue is that we require Orlando to take more contract back than they were probably willing to do. Which is why Caron worked because he was expiring.

I'm assuming we weren't offering Crawford and more like Dudley or something and they didn't want the contract length.

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Jesus. We couldn't have offered something like 28th pick and Barnes or Dudley? That trade is no worse than what they got.

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I think everybody is overrating Afflalo. He barely put up better numbers than JJ and he was Orlando's #1 option. Sure, he's a better perimeter defender, but JJ has more intangibles.

I'm very happy with JJ as our starting SG. However I am not happy with Barnes as our starting SF...that's the position we should be crying about.

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OK. Time to stop blaming DTS for everything from bad trades to global warming. He is a bad man; he is not The Devil incarnate. Enough already.

clipperboy24
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Redicks defense is mediocre at best and he is a horrible rebounder. Imagine how much better it would have been to have afflalo as starting sg and Redick as the 6th man

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Of course that would be better because I think Afflalo is a better fit for us than Jamal, but if I had to pick JJ or Afflalo I'm picking JJ.

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It is because they clearly didn't want contracts like that back. Fournier is a 21 year old with a $1.5M contract next season and his 15-16 salary is a team option.

Barnes is a 33 year old making $3.4M and Dudley is a 28 year old making $4.3M with two years left, both SF's. They have Harkless and Tobias fighting for SF minutes. Which trade would you take if you were Orlando? Fournier is basically getting the 20th pick from 12-13, so they are getting the 20th and 58th pick for Afflalo and only $1.5M in guaranteed salary added.

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Pat Bowlen did it right , give in Donhole.

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