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ClipperKyle32
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Okay, this how I am going into. "Report says: @basketballtalk: Report: LeBron thinks "strongest option" to return to Miami; league executives expect him to stay http://t.co/LypTk9m8Zn" So I Count Out LeBron... Now... Is Melo An Option Without Giving....

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I like your roster.

I like the idea of giving Devin Harris a cheap contract. I think he's a slightly taller version of Collison.

Elton Brand would probably be a bit higher, because he can realistically fill the role of both PF and C. He would not come cheap in my opinion. I'd probably switch him out with Earl Clark and Ivan and I'm probably one of the biggest Ivan fans here; but he can fill in at C where the other two can't.

I don't know if we can get Ariza just for the MLE, but hopefully something close.

McRoberts would be a great idea in case we can't get a Channing Frye.

Love the Shannon Brown idea, I think he might be signed to NY. The only thing I'd change is trading out JJ or Jamal for a Sefolosha or Shump type player.

ClipperKyle32
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Shannon Brown is a UFA this offseason. I'd love a Shump or Sefolosha if we did. I'd probably part ways with Jamal. I heard his contract isn't guaranteed or something. If we were to get....

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not bad, i really want to see an upgrade at SG, jj doesn't cut it when going against the bigger and better SGs in the league, trade Jamal for a starting SG and move jj on the bench

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Brand is going to be 36 years old next season, he shouldn't be expecting more than the minimum anymore even though he is still productive.

We can get Thabo without trading anyone, so we can use Jamal to fill another need if we get a guy like Thabo.

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Clippers are NOT on Melo's list. You have to gut the roster even if we could get him. No thanks.

Dunkathon
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Honestly, I would take Andray Blatche and/or Channing Frye over all the big men you just mentioned.

ClipperKyle32
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Each made a good bit of money. I kept players who were in our range. I think Frye or Blatche may be reaching a little bit.

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Agree, plus what's with all this love for Shannon stinking Brown. He's a below average player at best. Yuck.

ClipperKyle32
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Did I say sign him and start him? No. I just mention him as a 3rd string option. Or you know we can just keep players like Green and Dudley instead of getting younger and mire athletic

tense2
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He's not worth a 3rd string option. Getting younger is got nothing to do with getting better.

Much better options out there then Shannon stinking Brown, lol.

Agent0
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Yea, Brown isn't really an option to be excited about for us. Athletic ability is only as good as it is effective, and he's good for some highlights of jumping really high, but the game to game, possession to possession value of Shannon Brown is pretty low.

In terms of getting younger too, Brown and Dudley are age mates for example, he isn't super young or anything.

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I like Andray Blathce's game plus he's just been added to the. Philippines FIBA team. He's very skilled around the basket and has a mid range. I'm scared of Frye. He could be the next Dudley

Dunkathon
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Frye did make quite a bit back when he was in Phoenix, but he may be willing to take a paycut to play for a contender.

As for Blatche, he only made $1.3 million a year. In other words, he made Willie Green money. The Clips can use part of the mid level exception to sign him easy.

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Frye's previous contract was $6.8M, he's opting out to secure a long term deal. Most teams are probably looking at a 3 year MLE deal for the 31 year old. Blatche isn't bad, he's a more overall skilled player in a sense, but his IQ is lower. He's nowhere near the perimeter shooter, and while Frye isn't a great defender, he's shown a greater commitment to defense than Blatche.

Similarly, Blatche believes he has now shown his skills, and at 28, he's looking to now get a decent deal from someone after showing he can play and not be a distraction in Brooklyn, so he's going to be asking for as much as he can get, no discounts just for the sake of it.

So it just depends. If we say "well what about rebounding"? Blatche is a better rebounder as he mixes it up more on the offensive glass, but they are essentially equal defensive rebounders, both with a career 18.9% DRB%.

ClipperKyle32
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Is that better than Shannon Brown for ya?

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ClipperKyle32 wrote:

Is that better than Shannon Brown for ya?

That would be interesting....

clipitgood
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One crazy/risky trade that I sort of like is Redick, Crawford, Barnes, and Green for Gordon and Rivers. Figure NOH may be eager to part with Gordon's contract and may be willing to include a disappointing Rivers in the deal. I would then try to re-sign Granger and Baby, as well as bring aboard two cheap NOH free agents for fit and continuity, Roberts and Smith. Our lineup would lack depth and carry injury risk, but at the same time have a higher ceiling than our current one:

PG - Paul/Roberts

SG - Gordon/Rivers

SF - Granger/Dudley/Bullock

PF - Griffin/Davis

C - Jordan/Smith

CP3Best
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But Austin Rivers sucks...

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If you're expecting big things from LAC. Not gonna happen. Minor trades and/or relief cap space. Unless they get something they simply can't turn down. So don't get excited for our clips today. Get excited after July 1st.

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Shouldn't risk a great SG tandem for 1 injury-prone, high-paid SG...

namzug
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I still think Elton would want more than the minimum, unless he is dead set on getting on a contender. Even now he'd easily be our primary back up big.

I've always like Shannon Brown's athleticism and think he can still end up being a solid bench player. Not anything to get up or down about, just someone who can come off the bench with energy. If you could join him and Morrow you would have quite a player. Minimum players that can contribute I think are key to our roster since we are limited on how many key free agents we can bring.

If we go get an Ariza or a Frye we will have to fill some spots with min guys, so I'd rather spend it on guys I think could contribute.

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I suppose so. The Clips can pay Blatche more than he got in Brooklyn though, as well as give him a role on a contending team. Use a little bit of the MLE on him, and I think it would be a good fit.

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Why was I thinking rivers was a pg????

namzug
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I think he's a combo guard, or a scoring pg.

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No more gordon.injury prone and i really mean that.the team can't risk getting an offensive player w ok defense and he is undersized and overpaid.we have the offense because of the system.jj may not be a great 1on1 player but he is a great system player.that's why the team had the strongest offense in the league when he played.about his injuries its not like noncontact like gordon's knees.i blame cousins for jj's injuries.what i want to say is that we need an sf w defense.i want barnes on the bench or part of a package to get a starting sf w defense. we should not trde jj.he disrupts any opponents defense just by moving w/out the ball and is an excellent decoy.we don't need another ball dominant guy unless he is lebron(not happenning). Paul and griffin gets most of the touches.an sf w length and D,backup big who can olay C and pf (rebounding and D stretch floor) and a backup pg. These are the three most important holes to fill.Continuity is the key.fill the holes.synergism of the system is needed just like the spurs.

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Great post! Just got your first rep point.

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All this dumb talk about Lebon and Carmelo.... I was in there talking about it too..But I'm over it... We should go after Deng... Deng makes too much sense. Elite defender and workhorse... Plus he can score. I say top of my list now is Deng followed by Ariza. Forget the sweepstakes... I'm over it.

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PG: Chris Paul

SG: Lance Stevenson

SF: Loul Deng

PF: Blake Griffin

C: DeAndre Jordan

Dunkathon
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I agree. The free agent period doesn't start until July though, so we'll just have to wait until the Clippers can actually pursue him. He's gone on record as saying his biggest priority is being in a winning situation where everyone's committed, so it seems the Clippers have a decent chance, provided he's willing to take quite a paycut.

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Agreed. I'd rather have Deng than to blow up the roster to get those players. He's the right fit and would solve our perimeter defense problems.

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I would rather pass on Deng. He reminds me a bit of Caron Butler in that he is an aging wing with correspondingly declining skills. He might be an upgrade over Barnes, but I doubt a significant one. I would hope that we could land a younger, more athletic wing, rather than someone who is relatively old and merely incrementally better than who we already have. If unable to acquire long-term help at SF, then I would prefer to simply bring back Granger for less money, than pay up for Deng.

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PG: CP3

SG: JJ

SF: ?

PF: Griffin

C: DJ

That will leave about eight back up players. Four of them are on our current roster. Four of them will be new. Who is out and who is in? Nobody knows.

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What makes you think Deng is declining? He was having his best year this previous season (before he got traded to the Cavs). Yeah, his numbers dropped with the Cavs but that's obviously because he doesn't like playing there and Mike Brown is an awful coach. Loul Deng is A LOT better than Barnes and Butler when he was with us. We don't need "athletic" wings, we need defensive wings like Deng.

Clippersfan86
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How in the heck do we get two 10 mill a year players with no assets?

Jerediscool
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"They probably would want to come here and sacrifice money to play with us" I'm really sick of this sentence. We shouldn't expect anyone to do this

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You're right, he was playing well last year before he left for Cleveland, unusually well when you consider his performance over the past few years in which his FG% and 3PT% have steadily dropped. I tend to think his stats would have trended downward to the mean, even if he had stayed in Chicago. He is 29, which is not really that old for an NBA player. But, he has played lots of minutes over his career and has chronic wrist issues. While clearly still a good player and a very high character guy, I would rather we invest in someone who is more likely to get better in the next few years than not.

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He does continue to that achilles issue. If we want youth like that , then we should go after Gerald Green like we were rumored. Imagine a frontline of Green,Blake,DJ. I still am worried about....

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Magic duh

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Stevenson will never play here because of character issues. I would rather have Deng and money rather than Melo. Actually I'd rather have PAUL PIERCE than Melo. We don't need high ego guys anyway. The Dudley trade sounds interesting. The truth is (pun intended?) that if we didn't have cap issues we could, like in says past pick and choose.

Granger was mentioned. His future will be interesting. Right now I'd give him $3.5 mill based on last year's performance and that's a gamble. Livingston never was a scorer and I was never fond of his game but he can actually play PG and CP can play off the ball. I'm not saying he starts however.

How about Hedo?

Livingston

Jamal

Barnes

Hedo cheap?

Mahimi

This should give us the best bang for our buck depending on Shaun

Clipperfn4lf
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If re-signing a backup point guard is the top priority then we are in deep trouble. Get a freakin quality SF and skilled big!

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SF has been our weak spot forever..... For-e-ver... A quality starting small forward is and should be our #1 priority ...

JQuick32
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Just more evidence that this front office is clueless.

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Would love for Doc to say signing two bench bigs and adding length is top priorty. Grab a SF and get bigger up front.

ClipperKyle32
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Can we just get Corey Maggette out of wherever he is and start him. He probably would be better than whoever we have right now hahaha

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As of now, it should be the top priority. We have no other PG aside from Cp3. We have 3 sf's on the roster. The math tells me we need a PG more than a SF if push comes to shove.

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Disagree. You fill in the position you need the most...Fill being the operative word. We have no backup PG as of now and we don't have Collison's bird rights. Doc has tried to move some of our SF's with no success so getting Collison locked up before we lose him should be priority over collecting SF's.

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I'd rather have Livingston over DC. He is slightly more versatile and a much better defender. He can't shoot but he can run an offense. If we had to run out there with Reggie and Wilcox on the floor at any point in a game, I'd feel better with Livingston at the helm over DC.

I agree with Clippers_FTW though, SF has been the weak spot. We lack PG at this point in time, but feel there is a ton of decent point guards out there that can be had for less. Where the same case can't be said for SFs. I think first we lock up the starting rotation, then go after what is expected to be the playoff rotation. Then finally fillers with projects, wise vets and or insurance guys.

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In what universe do we need a backup point guard more than a small forward? I don't really care if Collison leaves, I'd rather have Livingston anyway. Meanwhile, we just can't go into next season with Barnes or Dudley starting. Just can't do it.

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In the universe of reality. We don't have but one point guard and three wings...For better or worse. Our goal should be to find a backup PG first and THEN try to find as way to upgrade the SF position by trading away our shitload of wing players. That's the simple reality of it. We don't have much money and we don't hold the bird rights to collison. There is a much better chance of getting Collison at a better price than a Livingston who has made no mention of wanting to come back here. No more of your pipe dreams, we try to keep our other PG first and then make moves to upgrade.

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