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CapsNClips
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Yes please. I think Doc can mold him into a defensive SF. He's already a great rebounder.

ClipperKyle32
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I thought he was a power forward the way he rebounded.

Don't know he looks too much like ryan gomes in the face

ClipperPostman
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No to Malcolm Thomas. Aminu is killing this guy. I'm convinced most here really haven't seen Aminu play, because he truly is a perfect fit. I'm going to make a thread soon with highlights etc.. breaking down why Aminu would help this team win a Chip.

realbull17
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Mavs just signed Rashard Lewis. Now they release him out of his contract. Looks like they will re-sign Shawn Marion.

Agent0
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I'm pretty sure Thomas is a PF, though he could play SF, sure

JQuick32
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Probably, unless he wants to start.

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nope. He didn't tell them he needed knee surgery when he had his physical, so voided his contract.

ClipSince7thGrade
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I would love to have Aminu back on the squad, the only thing I'm worried about is his offensive production. In all other fields he's good for the most part, of course could brush up on the defense but with Doc Rivers all players will learn to be a better defender so that isn't a huge issue

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Talking about Marion, not Lewis.

ClipperRevival
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Can Aminu actually play D or is this based on his potential? I haven't watched much Pelicans games. It's pretty sad when some of us are clamouring for Aminu. Is it that bad?

CapsNClips
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He is a PF, but he has all the tools to play SF for us. We only need a SF that can rebound and defend. I also heard he's working on a 3pt shot which would just be icing on the cake if he can hit 3's now.

He's my plan B if we don't get Marion or Aminu.

SamMays
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It's not that bad. Aminu isn't coming here

SamMays
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It's not that bad. Aminu isn't coming here

Jerediscool
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Wouldn't that make him a plan C?

itsLuigi
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yeah he has some potential. we should just skip the wait and go after one of the morris twins lol

chonkyfire24
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What's the deal with Michael Beasley? Is it just assumed he's going back to the Heat?

He sure f***ed up quite a bit, but maybe he finally learned something.

kjavis
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...but Marion may come here, Mavs just signed Aminu

ClipperKyle32
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CapsNClips
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ClipperKyle32 wrote:

Noooo! The Mavs are looking really good.

JQuick32
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I feel a little better about our chances at Marion after seeing a much younger player with potential in Aminu sign for the minimum (and with Marion's old team, no less). Come on, Matrix - take less money for that guaranteed starting spot!

CapsNClips
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Marion can still start on Chicago. He's also from there. We had a better shot at Aminu.

JQuick32
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Chicago is a worse team with a huge question mark in Rose, though.

renshaibob
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Dallas is going to be sneaky good next year.

CapsNClips
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Cleveland was a worse team than Miami with more question marks and LeBron still chose to go home.

The only way I see Marion not signing with Chicago is if their front office is too busy trying to get Love that they put no effort into signing him.

renshaibob
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I don't know who else is out there but i don't want Marion. Marion still has game but i think we need a young athletic wing player that can get after it night after night, One that knows his only job is to hustle rebound defend and run. I loved when we would be losing a game and Bledsoe would come in and just cause havoc and didn't care just played. Some nights we need that.

Clipperfn4lf
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With Jimmy Butler and Joakim being offensively limited, McDourmett fits the starting 3 spot in Chicago much more nicely than Marion would. IMO only place he starts and contends is here.

CapsNClips
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Aside from age, you just explained Shawn Marion perfectly. I don't understand why you don't want him. He does everything you want.

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Tyson Chandler, Felton, Parsons, Aminu, re-signing DHarris, RJeff, Jameer. Wow, the Mavericks did really good this offseason. Top 5 in West now imo.

Anyway, I am just happy that this means Marion is leaving and we seem like the best option. We should give him the same deal as Aminu, I think he would accept that.

JQuick32
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That was an extremely unique situation for so many reasons (he was drafted by his hometown team to begin with, the drama and hate surrounding The Decision, the fact that LeBron is still in his prime with many more great years ahead of him, etc.). Marion, on the other hand, is your run-of-the-mill veteran ring-chaser at this point.

ClippersDA
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I wanted Aminu. I'm so bummed and we could have afforded it

JQuick32
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Marion actually is still sneaky athletic for a 36-year-old... 62 dunks last year!

CapsNClips
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Everybody was already over "The Decision". It came down to trying to win a ring for his home state.

He might be a veteran ring chaser in our minds, but to him he is the missing link to bringing a championship to his home state.

His legacy in L.A. would be an after thought. He'd be much more in Chicago.

Not to mention Chicago has a better chance of reaching the Finals than us if you look at the teams in the East compared to the West.

I want Marion so bad on the Clippers, but I'm not going to lie and say he's a better fit on our team.

JQuick32
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CapsNClips wrote:
Everybody was already over "The Decision".

You'd be surprised at how often he still gets bashed for The Decision to this day by NBA fans. The media hysteria over his free agency this offseason also reopened old wounds.

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His legacy in L.A. would be an after thought. He'd be much more in Chicago.

I've always liked Marion, but he's never been a great enough player to have some vaunted legacy worth worrying about.

JQuick32
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They might have a better chance of reaching the Finals (and even that depends a lot on whether Rose can get back to where he was before his ACL and MCL tears), but they have almost no chance of beating one of the top teams in the West in a 7-game series even with Marion. They're just not good enough.

Agent0
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Dallas gave him the contract I was thinking, two years with a second year option. Basically they went younger to replace Marion. Ah well, should be nice for them as a backup SF/PF

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Raymond "Fat rat" Felton? Jameer Nelson? RJefferson? That doesn't put them near top 5. They lost one of their best 3pt shooters off the bench in Carter. They lost one of their best 3pt shooters in Calderon. Now they're losing one of their best defensive players in Marion. Nope, I think it's a lateral move at best, out of the playoffs at worst.

CapsNClips
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I'm sure there were still fans mad about The Decision, but I'm sure there are more Heat fans that are mad about him leaving. He's always gonna have haters.

CapsNClips
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Defense wins championships and Chicago would have a ton of that if they got Marion. They have everything a team needs to win a championship.

Defensive anchor, defensive role players, bench scorers, low post scorer and an elite coach.

They'd almost be good enough to win it all with an 70% Rose.

realbull17
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I doubt Rivers sign anybody this week as he's out of the country. We'll see who he'll sign. I know he'll be in Las Vegas early next week to watch Dahntay Jones as well as others teams like the Knicks.

clippyclip
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So glad we didn't get Aminu again. He was easily the scrubbiest player on our roster, and we were so lucky to dump him in the CP3 trade. He hasn't really improved much in NO, just gotten more minutes on a bad team.

This pic embodies Aminu as a player:

I'll just hope Dudley is getting in shape and Barnes keeps playing at the same level he has been. We got a real backup big, that was our most glaring problem.

JQuick32
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While I'm not as pessimistic about the Mavs as you are, I do think they've been wildly overrated due to one fluky playoff series, they've improved but not to the level that people think they have, and that it'll be difficult for them to become a true contender with how much money Parsons is being paid. I think they're stuck as a perennial 5th-6th seed until Dirk retires.

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realbull17 wrote:
I doubt Rivers sign anybody this week as he's out of the country.

But there's a whole front office including the GM who aren't out of the country and should be able to do their jobs.

CapsNClips wrote:
Defense wins championships and Chicago would have a ton of that if they got Marion. They have everything a team needs to win a championship.

Defensive anchor, defensive role players, bench scorers, low post scorer and an elite coach.

They'd almost be good enough to win it all with an 70% Rose.

They have enough defense as it is - what they lack is a go-to scorer and Marion isn't that.

ClipperPostman
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Not sure where all the Aminu "hate" is coming from. He has been pretty solid the last 2 years on a team that his role didn't fit at all.

He is really a solid player and on a right team, with the right coach he could be a defensive/rebounding beast. He is already an efficient scorer although not a good one. He can slash and take high percentage shots.

Agent0
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Aminu is good for the money (about $1M a year) and in the right role as a 20-ish minute backup forward for defense and rebounding. I wouldn't call his scoring "efficient", but he just doesn't take enough shots to have his ~.510-.520 TS% hurt you and in the right fit his lack of outside shoot can be hidden. Right fit equal a team with a big that shoots from the perimeter like Dallas has. We'll see if Dallas can help develop his shooting as that will really be what takes him to the next level.

I actually believe the guy hindered his personal development by playing international competitions instead of just working on his game. There is value in playing, but for young players like him during the summer, there is greater value in skill / position specific work. Blake's biggest improvement was "coincidentally" made after the season he wasn't rehabbing any sort of injury in summer and got a lot of time to work on his game. That's where these guys improve the most, especially with shooting, you don't become a better shooter or ball handler by playing more games and Aminu took away like 2 off-seasons of work to play in not so meaningful competitions.

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Anyone else feel like this Kevin Love for Andrew Wiggins and company (Likely: Anthony Bennett and Tristan Thompson or Dion Waters) trade is a only a matter of time??? This would make it a full rebuilding mode for the T-Wolves.

A month ago the Warriors would not consider taking back Kevin Martin in a trade that included Klay Thompson. Who could blame them; Klay is an appreciating asset, and Martin flat at best. However, what if post a Kevin Love trade, the then rebuilding T-Wolves, receive an offer for Kevin Martin using only the Clippers' undesirable assets (but with long term cap savings for the Wolves).

i.e.: Kevin Martin (6.8M x 3 years) for Dudley (4.25 x 2 years) and Barnes ($3.4M x 2 years, year 2 only partially guaranteed). This saves the rebuilding T-wolves $3M next year and over $7M in year 3 - while the Clippers gain a SG/SF who despite his defensive struggles hit 39% of his 3's and earned a PER of 16.4 last season(a hell of lot better than Barnes' 12 or Dudley's 8.9 PERs).

Not to mention the trade saves the Clippers $1M this season allowing them to add a 14th man. On most teams that's a nobody, but on a contender the 14th man can be a Birdman/Rashard Lewis type who comes in and makes a difference.

Clipperfn4lf
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Kevin Martin is a straight SG. Losing both Barnes and Dudley would leave us without a real SF.

EwanB
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Been playing around on ESPN trade machine. Here are a couple of ideas I've come up with that work financially:

1.Boston Celtics receive - Matt Barnes, Jared Dudley

Clippers receive - Jeff Green

2.Minnesotan receive - Matt Barnes, Reggie Bullock

Clippers receive - Corey Brewer

3.Brooklyn receive - Matt Barnes

Clippers receive - Andrei Kirilenko

The other option is to do a sign and trade for Shawn Marion maybe.

I know some of these trades aren't the best, but what do you think, anything workable here?

ClipperKyle32
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Uhhh as old as Marion is. Knowing how much mileage Deng got put on his body and how Thibs doesn't know what a rotation is and decides to play starters 48 minutes. I highly HIGHLY doubt....

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Agent0
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Been playing around on ESPN trade machine. Here are a couple of ideas I've come up with that work financially: 1.Boston Celtics receive - Matt Barnes, Jared Dudley Clippers receive - Jeff Green 2.Minnesotan receive - Matt Barnes, Reggie Bullock Clippers receive - Corey Brewer 3.Brooklyn receive - Matt Barnes Clippers receive - Andrei Kirilenko The other option is to do a sign and trade for Shawn Marion maybe. I know some of these trades aren't the best, but what do you think, anything workable here?
Boston has little incentive to do #1, Barnes is better than Brewer, we shouldn't trade anything for Brewer, ever. While Barens....

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EwanB
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Totally agree with you, looking at potential trades/FA my bet is we end up sticking with Barnes and Dud

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