DeAndre Jordan Appears To Be Smoking Weed in Europe (P. 2)

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jarca
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Lol, it's funny.. Weren't you the same guy who got offended when people ridicule Lamar's coke problem. But here you are worked up over possibly smoking weed

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What if DJ stay out of country for the next 2 weeks or month lol. Does the Silver have a tracking device and stalk him to the world's end?

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DJ sure is making some poor choices as an NBA athlete with asthma.

tense2
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Actually if you do some research it seems that smoking weed may actually help asthma victims.

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yeah, they were mocking him in the worst way by comparing him to that crack addict character from the Chappelle show. How is that the same as this? Apples and oranges...

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read other boards and tell me.

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@Clipper*Joe, I was joking and truly apologize if you took it as anything else. I actually like debating with you or I wouldn't reply as much as I do. I think you take things to far ends of the spectrum depending on who or what you are arguing for, and I find it amusing. If we are talking about DJ all things point to him being a negative the majority of the time, if we are talking about Vinny everything point towards him being a positive, and so on. You are consistent about hating on the ones you seem to hate.

It works for Michael Phelps. Are we still talking about a picture? Why don't we wait to see if there's any repercussions to hang them? Why isn't it a big deal that Barnes is there too? Do we bring Big Baby back or is this the final straw with him?

Blake was smart he was smoking inside the shop! LMAO

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Actually, your apology you can keep. Love the way you proceed to apologize and then continue getting personal. I find you amusing? Something tells me you are easily amused. At this point, I would usually try to use your words against you in a underhanded, and passive way. But that would be too easy for me. I'll just chalk it up as you honestly thinking your apology was sincere.

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I find arguing with you amusing since neither of us seems to give in to anybody else's thoughts. Take the apology for whatever you'd like.

I don't think this picture will affect anything on the court at all. I don't think smoking is that big of a deal, and I also don't think there is much that can be proven without a test. So until a test result comes back, I wouldn't worry too much about this picture. This thread is pretty evenly split, so there are some of us that do. Only time will tell.

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So a crack addict is ok in your book and shouldn't be ridiculed but possibly smoking weed shows character flaw and it's open season?

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Was I making fun of Jordan in a derogatory way? And you think weed is on the same level as crack? For the record, using and abusing crack, meth, heroin, and any pharmaceutical drugs to me, shows signs of a weak person looking to fill a void within themselves. I don't consider weed in that category. Hell, alcohol is a far worse life damaging drug than weed. But, all the drugs are forbidden in the NBA. So yeah, you can put Odom is the same category as DJ and the rest of them.

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Technically weed is not a drug if it is legal and consumed for recreational use.

TheThinkingSomething
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The situation might be stupid, but I find no grounds for personal moral outrage in it despite how it may make our team look. DTS, on the other hand, committed what was in my opinion an act that I deem morally reprehensible, even though there is no law against being a racist bigot. I am personally not a stoner, but I do know many fully functional stoners, some of them earning six figure salaries annually. The fact that alcohol is legal and marijuana is not is, to me, nothing more than a convention of the times and, therefore, I will not condemn something of this manner.

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Technically, weed is a schedule 1 drug under the federal law. While some states have loosened their stance on weed, federal law supersedes state law. Technically speaking, of course.

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I completely agree about your views on marijuana and racism. I share the same views. I find alcohol more destructive. But that is neither here nor there. It is against the NBA rules and that is where my outrage comes from. I also know functioning addicts in high places that have been users of more than just weed for years. Does that change the norms and values of society because some people can maintain functionality in high places? I think not. You know why that is? Cause more often than not, it tears into the fabric of society.

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*sigh*

Can't say I didn't expect this, but it's still disappointing.

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I see your point; that it is out of concern for the well being of the team. You are saying, essentially, that we have to abide by the rules of the illusion to avoid impediment, and it is a valid point. I just believe (and hope) that DJ won't hurt the team by "sparking up a doobie" "when in Rome."

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if he truly was "escaping reality" lol then fine him, make him realize that his actions don't just affect him but sometimes others as well(clipper orgz.)..

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THC binds to fat cells. DJ has what.. 6-7% bf? It won't be in his system long guys... Get off his case, nothing wrong with a little weed where its legal. Let him enjoy his off season. If he doesn't improve his game, then get on his case.

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Didn't read the quoted text, but there is no evidence that DJ was in America during this photograph. He broke no federal laws, why is this an issue?

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I suggest you read the quote text then.

he broke no laws but he did break the CBA rules.

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I suppose I can't blame DJ. With the Sterling drama and our inability to lure free agents I can't blame the guy lol.

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I am curious as to why the photographer never actually snapped a pic of him smoking it. He was just holding it. I can't see DJ smoking with his asthma issues. Not good for him or....

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Again, if you do some research there are studies that show weed is good in the treatment of asthma issues.

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Right, IF it's proven that he actually smoked weed.

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The league is not going to be able to prove he smoked weed, but it's still pretty stupid to get snapped with a spliff in your hand. We all know that the NBA doesn't really give a rat's arse about anything but the image of the league and, like it or not, it will appear to them that he is mocking their rules.

He's just subjecting himself to further league scrutiny by being publicly 'busted'. The best thing he can do is to admit his stupidity to Clippers upper management (behind the scenes, of course), ask that they pass on his regrets to the league office and make like a model citizen for a while... extra charity work and such... like a kind of voluntary community service.

All of this can be done without admitting any wrongdoing - just acknowledging how the situation "could be perceived" - and everybody's happy.

It's a shame that political convenience keeps cannabis illegal, but that's the way it is for now. A substance that has never been shown to cause a single fatality from any of its multitude of methods of ingestion can get you locked up, but all manner of stimulants and depressants that are proven killers remain available for sale... many without prescription.

I'm not mad at DJ for smoking some bud... dude has earned the right. But given how visible he is, I'm a little disappointed that he didn't know better than to do it right out on the street like that.

Even the Beatles understood boundaries. They wanted to get high in the White House... fine... but they sparked up in the restrooms, not the rose garden.

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And what is the big deal really? Every forward thinking person knows tobacco is more dangerous than weed and sooner or later weed will be legal worldwide. All black men in Amsterdam smoke weed, damn all MEN in Holland smoke weed, some grow it...when in university I used to grow the legally allowed quantity in my bathroom. Whatever! I will never get the American "democracy" - you can walk around with a gun but you can't drink until you are 21 or smoke weed?!?

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naive to think that some pro athletes do not 'party a little bit on the side. Not saying it's right, but not a huge deal if it doesn't affect his game and he doesn't get caught in a piss test.

He's a great defender and rebounder, but doesn't deserve BIG $$$ until he can shoot >70% free throws

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At least the picture wasn't taken on a team bus or anything...............

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I don't usually post what other forum posters have to say but this post pretty much sums up what can happen. This is from another forum and the guy is a lawyer. He's also been following the DTS story very close:

"Let's make it more precise. The NBA is a multi-employer association with unionized employees. The rights and responsibilities of both the NBA and the players (in employment matters) are defined by the CBA. Exhibit A to the CBA is a uniform player contract that can be varied only in certain specified ways that are not germane to this discussion. The drug testing program is contained in Article XXIII of the CBA.

So, can the NBA drug test these guys? The NBA is allowed to conduct random off-season drug tests (up to a maximum of 600 tests and no more than 2 per player). However, the NBA cannot test for marijuana. "Urine samples collected during the Season will be tested for all Prohibited substances; urine samples collected during the Off-Season will be tested for SPEDs and Diuretics only and may not under any circumstances be tested with respect to any other Prohibited Substances."

However, that is the rule for random tests. There is a separate provision for reasonable cause testing. This applies if the NBA "has information that gives it reasonable cause to believe that a player is engaged in the use, possession, or distribution of a Prohibited Substance." The matter is submitted to an independent expert, who can order an immediate test of the player. There is no Off-Season limitation on the scope of this sort of testing.

So, as I read the drug policy, the NBA could use those pictures to request authority to conduct immediate tests of the players in question, and they could test for marijuana even during the off-season.

So what would the penalty be? For a first offense involving marijuana, the player would be required to enter the "Marijuana Program," which involves expanded testing and education. There is no suspension until the third violation.

So, while this isn't much ado about nothing, the chances of something significant happening based on this incident are fairly low."

The bolded part is what I was trying to say can happen if the NBA gets a hold of the pics.

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The league can't test players for weed during the off-season. This was part of the agreement during the last CBA. The league can screen for performance enhancing drugs during the off-season, but not marijuana.

So chill out guys, smoke some weed.

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However, that is the rule for random tests. There is a separate provision for reasonable cause testing. This applies if the NBA "has information that gives it reasonable cause to believe that a player is engaged in the use, possession, or distribution of a Prohibited Substance." The matter is submitted to an independent expert, who can order an immediate test of the player. There is no Off-Season limitation on the scope of this sort of testing.

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Maybe he has a Medical Marijuana Card? Cannabis is LEGAL for medical use, I'm sure they both have pain !,

laboy
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you guys think this is like the world cup..

like our goalie has 16 saves in a game and gets drug tested right after the game..

ha ha!!!

deandre is just chillin..

maybe it will help his free throws??

anyway we have more important things to talk about..

like...

who is going to be our starting small forward???

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I"m glad DJ is kicking back and relaxing on vacation. He deserves it.

I can't handle the Amsterdam style of smoking with tobacco. I just can't inhale the stuff. I guess DJ can. They think we're crazy from smoking straight weed or hash but to me, the less smoke the better. If you are already a tobacco smoker it works fine.

A little weed can be a good help to get through the monotony of endless workouts, too.

Just stay off the tobacco, DJ.

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The NBA really needs to take weed off of the NBA banned substance list. I'd much rather have our players using marijuana to deal with pain as opposed to addictive painkillers.

See even Blake Griffin agrees with me.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=10796922&city=losangeles&sr c=desktop

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The NBA really needs to take weed off of the NBA banned substance list. I'd much rather have our players using marijuana to deal with pain as opposed to addictive painkillers. See even Blake Griffin agrees with me. http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=10796922&city=losangeles&sr c=desktop
I totally agree with that. Prescription drugs has one of the highest death rates in America in terms of dangerous drugs. But as long as Federal law keeps marijuana a Class 1 drug, as well as illegal, the NBA isn't going to take that off the banned substance list no matter how many states legalize it. Biggest mistake was putting Marijuana in the....

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Well, now that you mention it, the DEA just put in a motion to the FDA asking for them to remove marijuana from the list of dangerous drugs..... sooooooo its not that far off apparently.

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Won't happen just like that. they'll wait ample time till they see what's going on with the experiment we call, "Colorado".

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And its on the ballot to be legalized in numerous states in November including Washington DC where it is expected to pass. You'd be surprised at how quick things can move along when the money coming in from it is as high as it is.

Incase you feel like reading about it. Its a biased view of the subject but offers some real numbers.

http://m.mic.com/articles/92449/six-mon ... ign=social

Researching this topic and knowing what's happening with all of this is part of my job. I'm pretty sure things around the country are moving faster than you think when it comes to weed in America.

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Federal law trumps state law. Technically, Colorado legalized pot but it's still technically illegal. If the next president wants enforce federal law, they can come into every state and confiscate and prosecute. Eventually, when the pressure is too much, Federal law will follow the states.

By the way, I follow too. I'm just pointing out the basic facts people don't understand about "legalization".

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A lil weed smoke never hurt nobody. You'd be surprised to know that a lot of professional athletes smoke da ganja in their spare time. DJ & friends just got TMZ'd lol

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Pitfalls of celebrity these days. You cannot hide even halfway across the world where most of the locals probably have no idea who he is. On one hand I kind of feel bad for him that he has to deal with this...On the other hand, he makes enough money to buy privacy, either inside a coffee shop or just wait until you get into the hotel room. It's too bad a guy can't smoke a J in Amsterdam without having some douchebag take his picture but this is the world we live in and he has to be aware of it.

Now that the photo is out there, he needs to not smoke anymore on this trip and stay in Europe another couple weeks so it's out of his system when he gets back and gets tested by the league. And don't admit to anything. Even if he were to get a 5 game suspension, then he's set up to get a big suspension if something happens again in the future. The pic doesn't prove anything and he shouldn't get a suspension based solely on that.

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Pretty much all Europeans mix with tobacco. I never understood. Before we broke up, I used to smoke with my ex's dad a lot. this is a guy who will call out people in public if they smoke a cigarette too close to his vicinity. Absolutely brutal anti-tobacco person. Meanwhile, he would refuse to took without 3/4 of the J being tobacco. How does that make sense?

Also, little known fact, CA weed is much better than Amsterdam anymore. Last time I was over there was like 3 years ago. Top of the line in those coffee shops would be midrange at best in the L.A. stores. Best quality in the world is right here in CA.

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We got the Berkeley PhD's doing the genetic mapping and cloning. Nobody can keep up.

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If DTS was your boss,wouldn't you be smoking weed non-stop and forever?

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The NBA's drug policy states that a player can be randomly tested up to twice during the offseason, and David Lee was kind enough to show us what that looks like.
So DJ could and still....

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They don't test for narcotics during the off-season unless they have concrete proof the player is using them. The test Lee is getting is for PEDs.

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It's funny, there is this thread about DJ smoking out, another about Blake Griffin dropping out of Olympics, and a third about CP3 boycotting because of Sterling. What the hell is going on with our core players this offseason?

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LMAO no surprise here he's been doing this for years.

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