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BaadMaster
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This is my first trail here and it is one I am really curious about. The topic: how do you think Shelly Sterling should be treated? Yes, this has been covered in other trails; but this question has not been fully answered with the pespective of Shelly emerging completely victorious in court vs. the diabolical DTS.

It can be argued both ways. Yes, she has been the right hand of Dr. Evil, thus anything she does is evil. Hard moralists would say absolution only comes in the afterlife. Besides, I actually know people who reside in Sterling properties, and Shelly was no Mother Teresa. Far from it. She was the wicked witch of the west when it came to managing Sterling's properties. This is a person who should not be gifted with the milk of human kindness when in all her past years as landlord she has had none for others. That is a valid argument.

On the other hand, people change. She did not commit murder. And for whatever motive (and we can never guess another person's motives), she did come through for Clippers fans and Los Angeles big time. It took a lot of guts for her to use the "Altheimer's ploy" to get rid of DTS when he was clearly not stricken with Altheimer's (crazy, not senile), not knowing what the wrath of Donald could mean to her had the ploy failed.

Without her gutsy move -- more gutsy than Adam Silver's being bamboozled by DTS -- this melodrama could still be going on. The Clippers could be in the law courts rather than the basketball courts.

In my mind, if she now spends her time doing charity work as penance, and knowing how grateful Clippers fans should be for her pivotal role in ridding the NBA of this vermin, she deserves to be warmly welcomed at Clippers games.

Unless a tape surfaces with her and Bob Stiviano!!!

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I'm not buying that she did this for the fans/LA/NBA. She had 2 billion reasons to fight to sell the Clippers. She's a scumbag just like Donald.

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You mean she actually knew the bidding would get to 2 billion before selling? I find that highly unlikely. You forget she actually went to Doc during the playoffs and asked for permission to be there when she didn't have to. I find that gesture humbling considering she had nothing to do with what DTS said. I believe she really cares about the Clippers and their fans despite what detractors say. She took initiative by dethroning DTS from the trust and made it easy for the NBA not just in the process, but the future. She bent over backwards for us, the league, and new owner. She deserves most, if not all the credit in finding resolution in this matter. Scumbag doesn't describe what Shelly did and we as fans should applaud that. Now if your life has been free of questionable acts or deeds, then casting that stone might be justified but if not, well...

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She isn't Donald Sterling.

The only time she has ever stepped to the forefront regarding the Clippers was in the last few months and in doing so her actions benefitted the Clippers, the players and coaches and the fans. If anything, we owe her a debt of gratitude. Few wives, even estranged ones, would have had the courage to do what she did.

She didn't know going in that the bidding would have gone as crazy high as it did. At her age, who wants to spend time in court when she could have easily stayed home in her mansions and done nothing? She knew first hand what a prick her husband would be when crossed, but she did it anyway. She knew how vindictive he would be. This wasn't the easy road she took.

She crossed her husband, outsmarted him, and proved victorious. She could have lost. We know now that she won, but when it started that wasn't a foregone conclusion. She endured court testimony that ripped her motives, her integrity and then dealt with the uncertainty of the result. She was publicly called a "pig." And though this first case is resolved, she is still being sued by DTS and that will probably drag on for as many years as he can make it drag on.

For thirty years DTS owned this team. In that time, he was easily the worst owner in major sports history. In that time, nobody could get him out while it was clear almost everyone wanted him out Ultimately, he did most of the damage to himself, finally providing overwhelming proof that he was the racist and a-hole everyone knew him to be. Still, she was the one who shoved him out the door. It wasn't the NBA (though they were lined up to be next in line for that honor) and it wasn't Clipper fans. She did it.

Applaud her. We all got what we wanted and she helped us to get it.

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I wouldn't mind her coming to the games as a fan. As far as any connection with the team business wise. HELL NO!!! Sad

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I'm not buying what your selling.

  1. The bidding didn't need to go to 2B she knew it would go at least close to a Billion. All estimates were placing it at close to a Billion. Keep in mind they purchased it for 12 million so as far as "profit" she was going to make a killing.

  2. She helped herself more than anyone because if Donald loses to the league the Franchise is taken then auctioned off. This would completely take the power out of her hands to "choose" the owner. So Magic Johnson becoming an owner is a real possibility.

  3. Shelly has never came out and publicly "apologized" for her racist acts and deeds, especially in terms of housing discrimination.

  4. Have I done bad deeds in my life? Spare me. No I never pretended to be an inspection officer to snoop around someones personal living space to find out if they are black/latino so I could evict them and threaten their livelihood simply because of their race.

Shelly isn't "good" in my book. Maybe if I was Caucasian because technically she has never "Wronged" other whites because most of her hatred actions were geared towards those of other races, specifically African American such as myself.

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She is pure trash and needs to be removed from all clipper connections. People heremay care less that she to active role to impersonate an inspector to get a head count of african american tenants to later help remove them but I do. This was all about money and shelly sterling jump started this whole thing being jealous of Donald's side chick leading to the blackmail tape. All shelly did was clean up the mess she started AND make a profit.

Here is also a link as to many reports of shellys actions- http://m.forward.com/articles/197467/who-is-shelly-sterling-blameless- victim-or-enabl/?p=all

Its a god damn joke for anyone to back her because when people did they were unaware of her actions. This was a money grab she won and now she needs to go away and take the love triangle with her.

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Going to Doc for permission was pointless even more with Doc having no idea what she had done in the past or that she had orginaly backed her husband. Also saying Shelly doesn't want to be in court at her age is a joke. This woman loves the court system as much as Donald. Again this all got started because of a lawsuit coming from Shelly toward Stviano leading to the blackmail.

This was the same woman wanted to fight in court to keep her stake in the team as a minority owner even if DTS was kicked out. The money went higher than she thought and she wanted to quit while they were ahead.

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I'm Hispanic, what your point? Anyway, if you're so morally outraged and knew the history of the owners of this team, why did you become a fan in the first place? did you ever put money in their pockets by attending games while putting up a sub-par team for decades? If you have, bit hypocritical don't you think?

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Yet you have been here for years as a fan. Why would you cheer for the team these pieces of trash put out for years? it didn't bother you that much since you've been a fan of the team. People that walk the walk would never have ever become a fan of this team in the first place, or leave when they found out how these owners were. It's a joke to think it now matters.

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She wanted to fight in court to keep her stake as a minority owner? Where do you get your information from? That's not what she did. She went to Silver and asked if she could keep her share but Silver denied it. That's where it ends. She then went and auctioned off the team.

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Shelly is more than welcome as a fan. If I walked past her at the game I'd probably feel the same way when Donald would wave to me and the others in the crowd, a little awkward. Still doesn't mean she's not welcome to come support the team. However her having any affiliation with the team aside from fandom is just going to get messy.

If they show her on the jumbo screen for the first time next season, I'll cheer because she helped us out a lot, regardless if she was helping herself or not.

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So what you're saying is that because I'm white I don't give a crap about what she does to others, as long as it's not to other white people. Huh. I never knew that about myself, thanks for pointing it out. <sarcasm> Racism isn't just a "Caucasian" problem, as illustrated here.

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The question was "How should Clipper fans treat Shelly Sterling." I'll stand by my answer. Clipper fans should treat her well. Regarding her past, she may be as bad as Donald. She may be worse and just hasn't gotten caught. I don't know. But what she's done over the last three months regarding the Clippers has been commendable and a very good thing for the Clippers, Clipper fans and the city of LA. Was it also good for her? Sure. That's the nature of owning a team. If you want to look back over her lifetime and find fault, you'll find plenty. Those....

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At this point, DTS is so far demonized that Shelly could simply blame him for her actions claiming that she was just trying to make him happy and I would accept that. As despicable as the things that she did were, I don't think that she would do them if he wasn't in the picture. Now, I'm well aware that this is NEVER an excuse, Nuremberg and all that.. but, if it is the case that she had given up on DTS and was simply trying to do the right thing, then I could see the trial against DTS as an effort towards atonement. This would also make the trial the final nail in their relationship's coffin, and it should become apparent in the coming months. This is all my opinion, I know, but I'd be willing to give Shelly-sans-Sterling a shot.

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I don't understand the argument that she did it for herself of course she did, not many people do things that don't benefit themselves, she basically killed 2 birds with 1 stone, helped herself/her family trust and the clippers organisation

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Her hands are not clean, but I thank her for getting the team sold. I am not 100% happy about the circumstances of the entire process (but you cannot let a crisis go wasted, even a trumped up social hysteria), but I also thank that foul Gold Digger VS for her role and getting rid of The Donald. Now if the Clippers end up in Seattle in the future, I will regret everything I just said and wish we still had the Donald as owner.

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Do you all realize that Shelly put it in the purchase agreement contract that the team can't be relocated?! You know, the form Steve Ballmer had to sign to buy the team! C'mon guys! Why are we still talking about Seattle?!

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Not to be contrarian, but unless I get to read the entire and final legal agreement, anything is possible in the business world of sports. Think of all the great franchises that people thought would never leave. And remember I said "If" then I would regret everything.

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Whatever, its a fairytale that Sonic fans & Laker fans are crossing fingers and toes for. It would make Ballmer a boldface liar, as he clearly said in interviews that he's staying in LA. It would make him lose at least 50% of a $2Billion investment. He'd have to finance a new arena. And he's not even from Seattle, he's from Detroit. Seattle was just where he worked & a business opportunity presented itself there. Now the opportunity presented itself in the 2nd biggest media market in the country and although he has money to blow, nobody's blowing one BILLION dollars to appease a small city and make half of LA & all NBA executives hate him. I don't take Ballmer for the crazy maverick - Al Davis-type.

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My answer is,I will never see her and I will never have a chance to interact with her so for me,irrelevant. got rid of snake number one and and if she is a sub-snake , she will be dust in the wind soon too. As far as the money,..,face it,.. She and the Turd won't be on this planet for that much longer,what she did was get the kids a lot of money in their trust funds.

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I'm going to put this out there for people.

Yes, Shelly Sterling's hand is not clean. But whose hands is clean? Ballmer, for all we know, may have some dirty hands that we do not know. Of course, Shelly is looking for the best of HER terms and she is a very smart lady to do so. She knows that once Donald ban from NBA, there will be a lack of money fund coming to her way. The next best thing is to make herself painted as a good guy and outwit and outsmart her husband in receiving some money back. Most importantly, she will get some positive media and a little more positive reputations on her. In my opinion, I think she want to be classy, but the way this world runs, it's kind of impossible.

Think about it guys, yes she look for her best self-interest, but don't we all do the same thing?

Lastly, as a long-time Clipper fan, I always told myself, until the day that someone managed to get Donald out, this would be one of the proudest moment to be a fan and I got to thank Shelly and the NBA for that.

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shelly sterling will not be lacking any money in this lifetime...

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LOL I hope not. I say she made off better than Jaime McCourt did.

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as long as she ain't talking on camera.. i don't give a flying fu** about her

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Shelley Sterling went for and won a win-win situation for both her family and the Clippers organization + fans. It was the complete opposite of Donald Sterling's path of destruction, so definitely I think most of Clipper Nation would appreciate her for that.

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Ballmer reiterated, as he has several times since making the bid, there's no chance he'll eventually move the Clippers to Seattle. He said the NBA would never allow it and he paid the price he did because the Clippers are a Los Angeles-based team. "Probably most people will tell you I paid an L.A. beachfront price, not a Seattle beachfront price for the team," he said. "I'm not crazy." Seattle Times - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.UNrF0VxG.dpuf

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Ballmer reiterated, as he has several times since making the bid, there's no chance he'll eventually move the Clippers to Seattle. He said the NBA would never allow it and he paid the price he did because the Clippers are a Los Angeles-based team. "Probably most people will tell you I paid an L.A. beachfront price, not a Seattle beachfront price for the team," he said. "I'm not crazy." Seattle Times - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.UNrF0VxG.dpuf
I'd take this with a grain of salt. There are multiple times he's been shot down by the league when it was known....

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He wanted to move the kings and the bucks bc Sacramento and Milwaukee are both dog sh!t cities and Seattle is a larger market. LA is a bigger market than Seattle and Ballmer knows that. He won't be moving. He knows he over paid, he won't do anything else to lessen the value. The only reason he has ties to Seattle is via Microsoft which he no longer works for, thus probably not giving a damn anymore.

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He started with Microsoft in 1980 (34 years ago), is good friends with Bill Gates and many others that still live in the Seattle area, and has many other ties to the area than just his former CEO position with the company. He's been working with a group to not only get NBA back in Seattle, but to get NHL as well. Now I don't speak for him personally because I've never even met him, but I'm assuming Seattle is still very much part of his heart. I know it's part of mine, and I only lived there for 3 years and have lived down in CA since 2002. I do have a little more knowledge of him than you do, though, because he was the CEO of the company I worked for when I lived up in the Seattle area. Those crazy Microsoft speeches that are on Youtube... I was there in person for quite a few of them.

Now I'm not saying for sure that's what he's going to do, I'm just saying he still has ties to the area and anyone with half a brain that has failed multiple times at what he and his investment group tried to do will modify their technique so they can secure the asset before attempting such a move. Maybe he ends up loving L.A. and stays here with the team. Who knows? But I personally think he views this purchase as a big toy rather than an investment that needs to perform financially. Both CAN go hand in hand, but for Mr. Ballmer basketball is his passion and he just bought a BIG toy. It may not make sense to you, but it probably also doesn't make sense to you that guys like Ballmer and Gates and others have massive yachts that require year round crews and cost huge amounts of money docked in front of their houses in Medina on the shore of Lake Washington.

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According to reports, there is stipulation in the contract that the Clippers stay in Los Angeles. That was a prerequisite before selling. Whether he has his heart in Seattle or China is neither here nor there. The team is staying put. If for some reason, in the future, he tries to move, he has to go through all owners and Silver first. They decide if he leaves or not.

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