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    Post subject: AL THORNTON  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2008 - 03:28 AM PST
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    Did anyone else notice how Thornton can get any shot he wants at any time. I think this kid is the next superstar. He is a Kobe/Lebron hybrid. As I watched him last season it seemed that when he made a move, defenders would be stunned by his quickness thus creating wide open shots that he at times rushed when he didn't have to. As soon as AL realizes his own potential, lookout league!!!!!
     
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    Post subject: RE: AL THORNTON  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2008 - 05:25 PM PST
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    i dont know if i would put him that hight but he has high potential. his only - was consistancy other then that he has the factor to be cold killer.


    Some of the games he got in clips couldnt score points and once he got in he woke up the offense. fearless.
     
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    Post subject: RE: AL THORNTON  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2008 - 05:31 PM PST
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    hes a great player... and i look forward to his game in the upcoming season. he could be big for us and for the NBA in the future, as long as he grows he has a boundless amount of potential in my eyes, i hope the clippers staff works on him a lot this offseason.
     
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    Post subject: RE: AL THORNTON  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2008 - 05:50 PM PST
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    the good thing about it this year is he doesnt have to force shots.
    Last year alot of times he had to force it cause the team suxed. Same goes with kaman.(he is good but not when he has to force things)
     
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    Post subject: RE: AL THORNTON  PostPosted: Jul 05, 2008 - 05:53 PM PST
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    One of the many things that set him apart from Maggette that makes Maggette dispensable, is his ability to finish after contact. Maggette can get to the line no doubt, but as I have watched him over the last 8 seasons he does not finish plays. Not to mention the many years of mishandling the ball with those hands made of stone. Thornton is a natural basketball player, whereas Maggette was just a phenomenal athlete.
     
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    People say Corey it athletic. I don't think so. He's big and STRONG and like a runaway semi. As above post he doesn't finish shots. When was the last time you heard "blocked by Maggettte? " When has Corey dunked? Liv would have done all that last yr Sad. I don't know about Al's ball handling but he will give us an impenatrable interior defense. He can't crash the boards like Corey but he has the athleticism to do all the rest better. Yeah he was inconsistant but he was a rook and he made rook mistakes. As well, other teams targeted him to expose weak spots He didn't have good players on the floor to help him. Could you imagine Al, EB, CK and Liv, Cat and Q on D? How about BD, Gordon, Al, EB and CK. We have five possible first options. Possible allstar. Maybe we'll pick up Liv at mid season
     
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    i am really hoping we offer liv1-1.5 mill and keep him
     
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    I hear ya,

    I will not be distraught at the loss of Maggette. Sail on. The numbers are deceiving and his leadership ability is nil. I am with you on the Livingston issue. He would be a nice backup and can learn from BD.
    I hope Kaman gets in the weight room one of these offseasons and adds a little definition to quicken his muscle fibers. Baron Davis - Is it really true? A healthy Brand and Thornton along with him. I am excited!
     
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    I think Al Thorton will be a great NBA player. If he can do it this year, we can win a championship. I haven't seen someone that quick before. He looks like he has a Darius Miles build, but unlike Darius he can flat out score and shoot which Miles could do neither. He also can post up. He will be a real mismatch at small forward. I can't wait to see him at the other end of a Baron Davis pass. This should be an exciting year.
     
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    Oh, I think Thornton is much stronger and infinitely more coordinated than D Miles. He is the real deal and can only get better. Plus, I don't fear a sophmore slump, given his age and maturity level.
     
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    Al Thornton is going to be a star in this league for years to come.
     
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    It was really exciting seeing Al take his game from college to pro. My first post on CTB was all about how he'd make fans out here with his effort and ability. I also predicted (no big prediction btw, anyone who watched him mature at FSU would've told you the same thing) that he'd KEEP getting better because of what was possibly his strongest assest, his work ethic. I'm confident that he's watched tape, and has seen the parts of his game that need the most work, ie shot selection, passing game, ball handling, and all around defense, plus as 2CLIPisHip points out, a tendency to rush a bit, and will come back this year an improved player. The best thing is, I'm also confident that we'll all see similar improvement the NEXT season, and the one after that. There will come a time when the whole league will realize how lucky the Clippers got with the 14th pick last year. As for the coming season, with Baron Davis at the helm I'm expecting Thornton to be a regular on SportsCenter's Top Ten Plays of the Night! FINALLY we have somebody that can throw an alley-oop! Gentlemen, start your engines. Expect the unexpected.
     
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    in my opinion Al is a future all star!...he has one of the most unique finger rolls in the league and uses it very effectively....he has an amazing ability to finish plays in traffic and will only get better....with a summer of hard work and the floor a little more spaced out this year his shot selection should get much better....hopefully he's more of a EB than a BD when it comes to choosing the right shot....Al is quickly becoming one of the most exciting players in the LEAGUE to watch because of his altheticism and ability to finish....he may have had trouble staying consistent last year but with more of a structured offense(he'll have two allstars alongside him rather than a bunch of stop-gap fillers) this time around and a year under his belt i look for Al to be HUGE part of the clippers resurgence!...i too cant wait to see his first alley oop from davis!...i'm sure he'll be in the top 10 plays quite a few times next year!...
     
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    Yeah, it would be nice if the Clips can start Cuttino, so that Eric Gordon can come off the bench. With Thornton turning into a reliable and talented player, we're gonna need scoring off the bench. Gordon can provide that. Hell, I might even be willing to re-sign Quinton Ross and start him, so that we could have Gordon and Thornton coming off the bench. I know Thornton is better, but this would give us some bench scoring, which we will need and if you got Baron, Elton and Kaveman in, are you really gonna need another bigtime scorer in all the time? In reality though, you gotta give Al the starting role. He has earned it already. I'm sure he wouldnt complain about an expanded bench role...but the guy is just too good to sit. I guess he could be like Manu Ginobili (reigning 6th man) in that sense...Who knows.

    I'm not suggesting anything for sure here, but let me know if you guys like that idea or not.

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    I'm starting to get used to the idea that Cuttino will be effective as a fifth option. Last year he was at times our first option and that aini't cutting it. As far as Thornton goes, he will be the FIRST option real soon and needs to start to learn as much as possible. The CLippers need to get creative with Maggette to get something back for him. A role player would be great to come off the bench. Obviously, it will have to be a player that is willing to take a lot less money than Corey requires.
     
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    I think Corey will go to a team where he can be a main part of what's happening. If we have Al, Elton, Chris, Eric and Baron...Corey isnt gonna want to play here. It just seems like he's like that.

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    jlemmen43 wrote:
    Yeah, it would be nice if the Clips can start Cuttino, so that Eric Gordon can come off the bench. With Thornton turning into a reliable and talented player, we're gonna need scoring off the bench. Gordon can provide that. Hell, I might even be willing to re-sign Quinton Ross and start him, so that we could have Gordon and Thornton coming off the bench. I know Thornton is better, but this would give us some bench scoring, which we will need and if you got Baron, Elton and Kaveman in, are you really gonna need another bigtime scorer in all the time? In reality though, you gotta give Al the starting role. He has earned it already. I'm sure he wouldnt complain about an expanded bench role...but the guy is just too good to sit. I guess he could be like Manu Ginobili (reigning 6th man) in that sense...Who knows.

    I'm not suggesting anything for sure here, but let me know if you guys like that idea or not.


    I think if Maggette is gone Thornton will start. Let's see if we will see an improved team player in Al during the summer league.

    Yeah I think Al will start unless there are matchup issues where starting Q would be better. I wouldn't be surpised at some point in the season to see Eric Gordon start at SG and Mobley coming off the bench. He would help bring firepower, defense, & veteran leadership to the 2nd unit.
     
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    Yeah, eventually you'll want Eric starting. The only problem I see with Mobley off the bench, is that he is streaky. I'd rather have a streaky shooter surrounded by guys who are main scoring options, as long as he's willing to play defense and set up the offense (which Cat does), than have to count on him scoring in the 2nd unit. I know Dunleavy uses a lot of lineup situations, so this may not even matter...but I would prefer at least a split minutes structure between Gordon and Mobley....with Mobley playing more when the team doesnt need him to score. But when he's on fire, he'll really stretch that defense. So it's kinda up in the air to me. Guess coach will have to see how Al and Eric play in the summer league and in practice, to determine the usages. Q-Ross (i know many were really disappointed in his offense last year)...is a good compliment to our now offense-potent lineup. You dont get many defenders like him. MikeSR seems to love him, so hopefully they can come to a deal. Adding another scorer for the bench unit would be excellent too, in fact probably necessary to go far in 08-09.

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    I hope that Dunleavy doesn't start Thomas over Thornton.. I'm actually really worried that he will.

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    No need to worry. Thomas was always meant to come off the bench. Thornton has already started games ahead of Thomas, and now he's got a year of experience under his belt.

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    Isn't TT a PF/C? TT sit on the bench? He is a bench. Darius' problem is that he suffered brain damage from the head pounding. Gordon should get starting minutes in the later half of the season and with weaker teams. Cat must start in the PO's. We can't expect a Rook to perform as well as someone who's been there but we have been fooled. A dozen White Castles and a good Cabernet should help him a lot.
     
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    thornton showed flashes of greatness and it will be really exciting to see how davis helps improve his game

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    toohipcliptoslip wrote:
    Isn't TT a PF/C? TT sit on the bench? He is a bench. Darius' problem is that he suffered brain damage from the head pounding. Gordon should get starting minutes in the later half of the season and with weaker teams. Cat must start in the PO's. We can't expect a Rook to perform as well as someone who's been there but we have been fooled. A dozen White Castles and a good Cabernet should help him a lot.


    Yeah. I can't see Tim Thomas competing for the SF position. He's too big and slow. As you say I have no doubt that he's a PF and ocassionally a center but never a SF.

    As for Gordon I see it the same way too. Gordon could get minutes as a starter in the middle of the season if he proves he deserves it. Cat isn't a star but can be a good complement and can provide us with some veteran leadership, so necessary for winner teams.

    We still have to find the Al Thornton backup because we still haven't got none
     
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