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clipperboy24
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Post subject: Just had to say this about Mr. Maggette!
 Posted: Jul 07, 2008 - 02:12 AM PST
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I think many people seem to forget what a talented and amazing player maggette is. its crazy how teams are talking about siging him for the MLE! He just turned down a $7 million dollar deal from us to sign for peanuts? This is crazy! Maggette put in some great time in clipper land and i think its really important to remember and appreciate that.
I am a huge Dwight howard fan and would love for nothing better (outside of us resigning maggs) than for mggette to head down to orlando and sign a long term deal down there (through sign and trade). It would put maggette out of the western conference and allow him to contribute in a system legitimately tailored for him (they are desperate for a slasher and someone who gets to the line). if we could pull of a sign and trade for JJ (maybe he still has that shooters touch) and a salary filler and a future first round pick i think it would be great for both teams. if something like that didnt work i think it would just be another clips free agent that played great for another team and was way underappreciated. One thing i know is we dont want maggette going on either the jazz or the spurs, can you imagin them with him??? I mean the guy was in the top 10 in scoring last year!! YIKES! |
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Post subject: RE: Just had to say this about Mr. Maggette!
Posted: Jul 07, 2008 - 02:53 AM PST
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| Yeah personally I think the guy is a terrific player. He makes some questionable decisions but his hustle, ability to score & get to the free throw were great for the team. I'd love to see him return, but unfortunately it doesn't seem like it will happen. I'll keep my fingers crossed that we at least do a sign-and-trade so we get some value back for him, and that way he can get paid the $ he wants too. |
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Post subject: RE: Just had to say this about Mr. Maggette!
Posted: Jul 07, 2008 - 05:49 AM PST
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Let's see. I agree Maggette has showed more than deserving this MLE that lots of teams are offering him but is exactly true that there's no any NBA team that could see Maggette as one of their two main team stars. All the teams see him as a good player but not as a star, and the offers he's having prove it.
clipperboy you talk about Orlando. IMO I don't know where Gette could be useful for them having Turkoglu playing the same position. Gette has showed that where he's more confortable is playing the SF position and IMHO I sincerely prefer Turkoglu over Gette. I wish the best luck for him but I can't see any team paying him more than 7-8 mil$. IMO he may be forced to accept one of those propositions from elite teams like Boston, Detroit or SA |
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Posted: Jul 07, 2008 - 10:50 AM PST
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| I don't know guys... I think that Maggette is maybe finding out something about his true value. I mean if you really look at it, Corey isn't a great player. Sorry... he's not. For as many touches as he gets, a one to one assist to turnover ratio doesn't exactly suggest court sense or good ball movement, especially when you only average two and a half assists a game. With that body, with all that obvious athleticism, if you manage only one steal and .2 blocks per game... that's not 2, that's point 2, well you ain't no defensive whiz either, and less than six boards a game says he's not mixing it up underneath. What Corey is, is a scorer/slasher. He's really good at that. He draws fouls going to the hole as well as anyone in the league, and knocks down his free throws. He's improved his outside shot, and last year hit the three pretty consistently. So, he's a definite scorer. He'll get 20 for you, no problem, but he's not a great player. A great player does some of those other things too. Corey's a real good scorer, but that's it. |
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Posted: Jul 07, 2008 - 12:13 PM PST
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| DWB I agree with you Maggette is a good scorer. Everything else is just average. I do think the kid has a lot of heart, hustle and often plays hurt. i dont see him as a selfish player like Ive head people say on some of these forums. He has stuck through the hard times, managing not 2 demand a trade. Corey has been one of my favorite Clippers and I always thought he was gonna be an All- Star, it didnt workout and now I wish him the best. If there was a way to keep him I would keep him as a sixth player not a starter over Thornton. I think he needs to move on. |
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Posted: Jul 07, 2008 - 12:52 PM PST
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| I agree with you dwb. And when i say he is selfish i say that because his work ethic is usually just score or how good he is on the floor. He never once made the commitment to defense so he could help us in closing min of ballgames, and when we were making our playoff push he demanded to be traded when we were winning. We needed his scoring to come off the bench and he was complaining about that. Good luck to him wherever he may land and i hope he has a great career. |
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Post subject: reply
Posted: Jul 07, 2008 - 02:39 PM PST
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Yeah, I think maggs was and will be underated until he can land a LAL,Bos type team where he gets more exposure. As selfish, he wasn't that at all. He didn't have as many assist as he should because WHO THE HELL COULD HAVE SCORED LAST YEAR??? As for him not being an all-start I believe he should have made the team this year and last if the all start team was really about your numbers not how many jerseys your number sold. The guy can score at will, the problem with his perception is that many people just don't know him at all(who watches 82 clipper games a season) besides some of us here. Even people on this site claim to know his playing style but I'm guessing they close their eyes when he is playing or lie about watching the games. I think the main problem of maggs perception is that he under achieved in the NBA, that might be true but he is still a GREAT PLAYER. Look at his PER on ESPN.com he is top 5 in the league at the SF position with the like of pierce, carmelo, bron. That is good company and the numbers don't lie. Even if you look at nba.com his efficiency is great their also. I feel bad because he was coming off the bench, he had all those problems with dunleavy, and he really never got the exposure. He is what he is 22,6,3,1 and to me those are good numbers to others they are selfish and not good enough. I would love to keep maggs but if it doesn't work out I wish him the best and I know at least in one post this season the site is going to talk about the skills we lost. Thanks a lot number 50 we will miss you.
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Post subject: RE: reply
Posted: Jul 07, 2008 - 03:05 PM PST
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i truely think we're better off without maggette....in my eyes he was/is a ballhog....he forced shots and often disrupted the flow of the offense because HE wants the ball in his hand....he doesnt have a post up game which thornton is already showing good signs of....he cant really beat guys off the dribble with his lack of ball handling....the only thing he really did was charge the rim full speed and try to bowl people over and that only worked when his defender or help defense couldnt get their feet there in time....hes a charge waiting to happen and a disruption to TEAM offense....not to mention his atrocious defense!...
corey definitely had some exciting plays over the years and without a doubt is a tough player who can score, but his attitude and lack of commitement to team play and defense is why i think we'll be more cohesive without him.... |
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Posted: Jul 07, 2008 - 05:22 PM PST
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| Just for the record... yes actually the numbers DO lie. At least the PER numbers do. I think I've already been pretty outspoken as to what I think about Hollinger's PER. It's a tool, but just one tool and it doesn't account for a number of factors. For example, PER-wise Carl Landry was BY FAR (five whole points) the best rookie last year. Not to knock Landry, he had a fine season, but he did ONLY what he did, which was play his limited game... in other words he didn't much venture out from his eight to ten foot comfort zone around the hoop, so naturally his numbers reflect that. That's cool, that's what he was supposed to do, but that means he'd have a higher shooting percentage, (including lots of put backs and dunks) and fewer turnovers (big PER factors) than a guy like Thornton who actually plays the whole floor, handles the ball in the open court and shoots from different spots. PER-wise, Al barely makes the THIRD team all-rookie squad. You really think that's right, that those numbers don't lie? Al was really the 14th best rookie last year? I gotta disagree. Corey IS offensively efficient... again, he's a really good scorer. That doesn't mean that he plays good defense, or that he makes his teammates better. |
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Posted: Jul 07, 2008 - 06:02 PM PST
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| Krapper, you are so right. Maggette is OVER-rated. Not a special player at all. Disruption to the offense, poor ball handling and a charge waiting to happen. I would take Posey over Maggette any day and on any team. Ok, so he scores twnety a game. I can't remember the last time he made important points at the end of games or to end another teams run. |
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Posted: Jul 07, 2008 - 09:56 PM PST
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| thanks 2clips....by the way whoever lands maggette next year will NOT win a championship if he's a major part of their offense....think about it....he's 28 and has MAJOR flaws in his game that in this point in his career probably wont change, no matter who he goes to....if he couldn't be happy with coming off the bench and being the 1st/2nd option with the clippers when they were one game from the western confernce finals, why would he be happy coming off the bench when he'd be probably the 3rd option for any other contender?!...corey is the type of player who'll hustle after a loose ball but not hustle to stay in front of his man or get a hand in his face....teams will soon find this out.... |
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