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Post subject: Do you Think Deandre Jordan could be starting PF?
 Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 01:21 PM PST
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| if all else fails and we don't get okafor, smith, or any other target the clippers want for PF (which i hope doesn't happen) do you think that D. Jordan would have a chance at being our starting PF? |
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Post subject: RE: Do you Think Deandre Jordan could be starting PF?
Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 01:26 PM PST
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| No- not that he couldn't be one eventually. I don't think we can expect kid just picked from the second round to be our starting PF. He's very raw still and doesn't really have any post moves either. |
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Post subject: RE: Do you Think Deandre Jordan could be starting PF?
Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 04:48 PM PST
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| They would probably start TT and bring Jordan off the bench. But if TT got hurt, Jordan would be thrown in much like Al Thorton was last year. Al was inconsistant and feeling his way through the season and Jordan would have to do the same thing. They would probably play Faz a lot as well. If we go to a run and gun up tempo offense his offensive liablilities would be as pronounced. He can run the break, and he should get some offensive rebounds for put backs. |
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Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 05:15 PM PST
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| "no rookies on the wood" Don Nelson |
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Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 05:29 PM PST
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| I think he can. Im seriously tired of coaches and old school fans not wanting to give rookies a chance. I know he isnt lebron or anything but every extremely talented rookie lately given a chance to start seems to shine. i dont think they should start game 1 ... but coaches who refuse to start them despite how well they play is bullsh**. I remember Chris Wilcox tearing stuff up at times for us yet got benched and it pissed me off. Then he goes to seattle and averages 13.5 ppg and 7 boards and 2 blocks in only 28 mins per game. If that was 35-40 mins a game he could be a great starting pf for us right now. |
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Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 06:33 PM PST
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| Do not forget Jordon is a YOUNG rookie. Al went to college for 4 years, Jordon only has one year college experience, and seems very raw and a big project. So my answer is a resounding NO. |
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Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 07:12 PM PST
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| Lol. Then you have never heard of Moses Malone. Or any other young power fowards who came in immediately and impacted the team bigtime. Chris Bosh,Amare stoudamire, Dwight Howard? I know those are all borderline super stars now.. but they were given a chance to play a ton rookie year and delivered. Alot of players never develop because lack of use. I think Jordan isnt a bust like Kwame Brown, so more play time will equate to more production |
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Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 08:24 PM PST
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Clippersfan86 wrote:
Lol. Then you have never heard of Moses Malone. Or any other young power fowards who came in immediately and impacted the team bigtime. Chris Bosh,Amare stoudamire, Dwight Howard? I know those are all borderline super stars now.. but they were given a chance to play a ton rookie year and delivered. Alot of players never develop because lack of use. I think Jordan isnt a bust like Kwame Brown, so more play time will equate to more production
I do not think he is a bust, but i do not think he is ready for the big stage. And unfortunately, I do not think he is Amare, Howard or Bosh right now. He was a second round pick for a reason... |
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Posted: Jul 13, 2008 - 09:36 PM PST
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| We won't know unless DeAndre gets minutes. Dunleavy has not been very good at using rooks in the past. But last year he was forced to use Thorton because of all the injuries and looked what happened. Thorton happened. DeAndre can only improve if he gets to play. Doesn't necessariy have to start, but play 25 minutes a night. That's 6 minutes in each half for Kaman and 6 minutes in each half backing up whoever starts at PF. That would give him a 12 minute stretch in each half to get his groove going. If we do that he will develope. If we leave him on the pine? |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 01:26 AM PST
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| I think mid way in the season he is going to amaze us. Sorta like how Andrew Bynum started to change, Jordan will as well (just an example) |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 01:29 AM PST
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| Clip your wrong. Gilbert arena's was a second round pick. Also he was projected to be a lottery pick all year. Gilbert is now the best point guard in the league when healthy besides Steve Nash and maybe Chris Paul. Yea El nino i agree. He wont be a Bosh or Dwight... BUT he will definitely start to pick up like Bynum did. You can teach basketball but you cant teach athleticism or size. |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 01:34 AM PST
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| indeed my brotha, indeed |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 02:16 AM PST
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| Jam fan i agree! I think Phil Jackson and Dunleavy suck ass at giving young players the chance to develop. Like Jordan Farmar. DEFINITELY has star written all over him but jackass still starts Derek Fisher. Whenever i saw Jordan Farmer play i was like crap... he should be a starter. Always makes good passes.. attacks the basket like crazy.. and can shoot the 3 ball. Deandre Jordan is same way... i see minutes equaling production. Like Chris Wilcox.. usually the more we played him the better he did. |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 02:25 AM PST
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| good point as well |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 02:28 AM PST
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| El Nino we seem to say alot of the same stuff ;p. |
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Post subject: No
Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 12:11 PM PST
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| I got to see him play Saturday in the summer league game, he looked lost. He does not look to score, does not box out on rebounds and has no offensive game. His defense was weak. He sort of just roamed under the basket with no direction. My best guess is, he is 2-3 years away from contributing any meaningful minutes to the Clippers. I even think the D-league is where he belongs. |
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Post subject: RE: No
Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 12:47 PM PST
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| There is no way he could start at PF for any NBA team this year. He wasn't even good enough to start on his college team during the end of last season. He is a project that is years away from being possibly nba ready. |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 12:52 PM PST
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Clippersfan86 wrote:
El Nino we seem to say alot of the same stuff ;p.
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Post subject: Re: RE: No
Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 12:54 PM PST
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corgiBear8 wrote:
There is no way he could start at PF for any NBA team this year. He wasn't even good enough to start on his college team during the end of last season. He is a project that is years away from being possibly nba ready.
Have faith my brotha have faith, with our team being so active he will most definately wan't to elevate his game to a whole new level, i guareen dam t it. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: No
Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 06:26 PM PST
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Lol. Then you have never heard of Moses Malone. Or any other young power fowards who came in immediately and impacted the team bigtime. Chris Bosh,Amare stoudamire, Dwight Howard? I know those are all borderline super stars now.. but they were given a chance to play a ton rookie year and delivered. Alot of players never develop because lack of use. I think Jordan isnt a bust like Kwame Brown, so more play time will equate to more production
Well I believe that DJ will be a very exciting player one day (and especially the more time he gets) however, he couldnt even start for his Texas A & M team.. how can he start for us? I understand that it is possible ie Marvin Williams (UNC - Atlanta Hawks). Am I wrong for thinking this way? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: No
Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 06:33 PM PST
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HELL NO!! DJ better not be freakin startin!! LOL...that would set us back to rebuilding mode...same reason why Cat needs to start over gordon...we have two great rookies who look to contribute...on a playoff/maybe contender team!! we just need to get that FA....or trade mobley/TT for zach randolph, which will allow us the cap space still to sign a IGGY or Deng or somebody on top....
but ofcourse, if we end up not doin **** as usual, then TT give us the best chance to win at starting PF, which won't be much of a chance at all...if that's the case, just start Deandre and lez go back to lottery, and I'll jus be depressed all year |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 07:03 PM PST
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Clippersfan86 wrote:
Clip your wrong. Gilbert arena's was a second round pick. Also he was projected to be a lottery pick all year. Gilbert is now the best point guard in the league when healthy besides Steve Nash and maybe Chris Paul. Yea El nino i agree. He wont be a Bosh or Dwight... BUT he will definitely start to pick up like Bynum did. You can teach basketball but you cant teach athleticism or size.
Gilbert is one in how many? 20,000? And IMO, he is not close to the best PG in the league, but is overpaid...Additionally, Gilbert played big minutes at UofA for at least 2 seasons, compared to Jordans one year, limited minutes...
Listen I am not knocking DeAndre, I just think he should not be starting, and needs to learn alot. |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2008 - 08:34 PM PST
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| Im with you 100% clipnasty!!! |
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