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toohipcliptoslip
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Post subject: The Official Who Else the Clippers Should Sign Thread
 Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 09:57 PM PST
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| It sounds like the starters smoke but we are weak on the bench. C and PF are OK but we have PG--BK 0 offense: Mobley or Eric SG; and 0000 at SF. After a 3rd rethink, Q won't work because he has 0 offense. We have some change left but we need a strong SF or swing man no matter what it takes or we're screwing ourselves. (don't you miss Corey?) |
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Post subject: RE: Where's the bench?
Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 10:02 PM PST
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Well we have Jordan and TT for C/PF (both) not sure we have a back-up SF. SG mobley or Gordon. PG Knight and Taylor.
We just need some at SF or someone who can play both SG/SF. |
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Post subject: RE: Where's the bench?
Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 10:10 PM PST
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| Vujacic sounds like a good fit- the guy can even play the point. But the Lakers will likely match the offer we give him though. Of course there's Azubuike, Q Ross, Matt Barnes, Livingston, Ryan Gomes, Carlos Defino, JR Smith.... |
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Post subject: RE: Where's the bench?
Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 10:13 PM PST
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| Matt Barnes is instant offense, Azibuike has talent and can really shoot the ball. Q, well he pretty much only plays defense, so he'd be a good option IF we can get some other scoring help. Delfino would be good to have and JR Smith is probably more trouble than he's worth if he's gonna be a backup. I dont know enough about Gomes and who knows about Livingston's return. |
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Post subject: RE: Where's the bench?
Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 10:23 PM PST
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Post subject: RE: Where's the bench?
Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 10:34 PM PST
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| i like azubuike or barnes...cuz they both played with boom dizzle...so that will help out alot |
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Post subject: RE: Where's the bench?
Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 10:37 PM PST
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| Ryan Gomes would be great. He's like an undersized 4 with speed. I would bet the TWolves own't match now that they have KLove. |
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Post subject: RE: Where's the bench?
Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 10:51 PM PST
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Gomes is a great fit. JR Smith is lights out when he gets hot. Barnes is another hustle & flow guy. Can't lose with any of these guys.
If my calculations are correct, we have approx. 4 million left plus the MLE. That's still about 9 + million left to fill out the roster. NOT BAD!!!!!!! |
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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 10:58 PM PST
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| Barnes should be at max MLE |
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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 11:03 PM PST
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sounds a bit steep, toohip. But maybe...
Hell, it's no time to cheap out. |
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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 11:03 PM PST
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| ^^I'd like to think he'd go for like $2 mil/year or less. |
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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 11:11 PM PST
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| No, I'm not sniffing glue but the wine.... What about D. Miles? How's his knee? Maybe he's learned he ain't the best. Would he come off the bench? Will we bang our heads again? |
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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 11:13 PM PST
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| I think its over for DMiles. Unless he comes for the Min., he shouldn't be considered. And even then... |
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Posted: Jul 15, 2008 - 11:17 PM PST
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| matt barnes is not worth the full mle or anything near that....maybe $3 mil a year but thats it!... |
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Post subject: Three point shooters needed
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 12:56 AM PST
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Clipper D-League Pickup
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How about Bringing Eddie House back? Un-re FA and a great outside shot
Who else is out there to stretch the D? |
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Post subject: RE: Three point shooters needed
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 12:57 AM PST
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Clipper 6th Man
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| boston will prob keep him |
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Post subject: RE: Three point shooters needed
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 01:01 AM PST
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We have some 3 point threats.
Thornton
Baron
Mobley
Tim Thomas
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Post subject: RE: Three point shooters needed
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 11:46 AM PST
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Clipper 6th Man
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good post D-League...WE NEED THREES!!! i happened to have Coach D's e-mail and last year or so I e-mailed him saying we need threes and should go after the likes of jumaine jones or somebody...he never e-mails back..LOL...but i know it's his e-mail, since i type the e-mail addy, and his full name pops up on my outlook when I receive a "read receipt" hehehe
But yes, we need 3's!! we are very well rounded now, but adding a "sharp" shooter to compliment our avg. to maybe slightly above avg 3pt shooting is a must...clips have been like bottom 5 in 3's in the last several years, including the year we took the suns to 7 games....where raja hit that THREE and that was all she wrote...makes me sick...GET SOME THREES PLEASE....SASHA VUJACIC..LET'S GO! |
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Post subject: Restricted Free Agents: We Need One More!!
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 12:47 PM PST
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Here's the list, per espn.com....let's see who will fit in our $3M range...we need THREES....who do you guys like??
Group I: Restricted free agents
Only six first-round draft picks from the 2004 draft were signed to extensions last fall. That means some serious young talent is available this summer. These players' restricted status makes it likely they'll stay with their current teams, but at least they'll be in play:
Smith1. Josh Smith, Hawks: Smith has been the hottest restricted free agent, drawing interest from the Sixers, Clippers and Warriors. He's a freakish athlete who can score, rebound and block shots. What holds him back is his questionable attitude.
Right now, only two teams, the Clippers and Grizzlies, are far enough under the cap to give Smith an offer sheet big enough to potentially scare the Hawks. Given Atlanta's messy ownership situation, would the Hawks match a huge offer from L.A. or Memphis? That's the big question right now.
2. Andre Iguodala, Sixers: Iguodala's decision to turn down a $57 million deal last summer is tough to justify. At the time, the Sixers appeared to be the only team with significant cap room; I'm not sure where he thought his next paycheck would come from. Now that Elton Brand's on board, expect the Sixers to do everything possible to lock him up.
Okafor3. Emeka Okafor, Bobcats: Okafor turned down $13 million per season to hit free agency this summer. He's not the best player on this list, but he's the best young center on the market and one of the few guys in the league who's a lock to average a double-double. It sounds as if the Bobcats are open to a sign-and-trade if the right deal were to come along.
4. Luol Deng, Bulls: Everyone loves Deng's talent, including the Bulls. At least they used to. Injuries and a poor season have hurt his value around the league. Still, it's hard to see the Bulls not matching any offer Deng gets next summer.
He declined a $57.5 million extension in October, so if he makes more than that, he'll come out ahead. It will be interesting to see whether the budget-conscious Bulls will take advantage of the market conditions and offer him much less.
Biedrins5. Andris Biedrins, Warriors: Biedrins didn't get the lucrative contract offer that several others did. He was looking for something in the five-year, $50 million range but got an offer that reportedly was substantially lower.
Biedrins falls a little bit into the Anderson Varejao category -- energetic big man whose stats don't tell the whole story in terms of on-court contributions. Given that he continues to improve and he's only 21 years old, it's hard to believe the Warriors wouldn't match an offer.
6. Monta Ellis, Warriors: He's young and he can score. Now that the Warriors have lost Baron Davis, re-signing Ellis is a priority. Though Ellis likely has few suitors, the Warriors will make him happy or risk that he'd take the midlevel exception.
Childress7. Josh Childress, Hawks: Childress doesn't get nearly the respect or hype as many of his teammates in Atlanta, but he's been a devastatingly effective sixth man. Still, he might be expendable given all of Atlanta's wing talent. He probably can't get more than a midlevel deal on this market, but he'd be a bargain at that price.
8. Ben Gordon, Bulls: Of all the players who turned down lucrative contract extensions last summer, Gordon made the most mind-boggling decision. He turned down a five-year, $50 million deal that seemed above market value on a down season.
For him to recoup that money this summer seems almost impossible. And now that the Bulls have added Larry Hughes to the mix, it's no longer clear where Gordon fits into the picture.
There isn't a huge market for undersized 2-guards who have streaky jump shots. Gordon most likely will be the top restricted free agent not to have his offer matched, but he'll struggle to get a huge offer from anyone. Gordon might be better off taking the Bulls' one-year tender offer.
9. Nenad Krstic, Nets: Before his knee injury last season, Krstic looked to be locked up by the Nets. Now the uncertainty about his health could hurt his value.
10. Daniel Gibson, Cavaliers: Gibson has a great outside shot, can play both positions in the backcourt and has valuable experience on a contender. The problem is it appears that the Cavs will match any offer. If he wants a big payday, he might be better off taking the team's qualifying offer and trying again next summer.
Other notables: Louis Williams, Sixers; Craig Smith, Timberwolves; Sasha Vujacic, Lakers; Ryan Gomes, Timberwolves; Robert Swift, Oklahoma City; Carlos Delfino, Raptors; Carl Landry, Rockets; Kelenna Azubuike, Warriors; Delonte West, Cavs; J.R. Smith, Nuggets; Dorell Wright, Heat.
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Group II: Unrestricted free agents
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1. Kurt Thomas, Spurs: He's 35 years old but still tough enough to help just about any title contender. The Spurs got him in a steal of a deal at the trade deadline. Look for them to try to lock him up with a three-year deal this summer.
2. James Posey, Celtics: Posey helped himself with a strong performance against the Lakers in the Finals. He's another player who should get a three- to four-year midlevel deal somewhere.
3. Ricky Davis, Heat: The talented but troubled swingman hasn't helped his cause in his second tour with Miami. Pat Riley thought, after dumping him the first time, that Davis finally had the maturity to play for him. But Riley clearly is reassessing the situation. Davis looks like a midlevel-or-below type of player. I doubt he'll return to the Heat.
4. Kwame Brown: The former No. 1 pick has run out of excuses. Yes, he's huge, athletic and only 25 years old. But after seven years in the league, he has yet to prove that he's anything more than a backup. Someone will pay him something, but no one expects much.
Livingston5. Shaun Livingston: He has amazing talent but will he ever recover from that horrific knee injury he suffered in 2007? With the Clippers using all of their money on Baron Davis, someone might try to roll the dice.
6. Keyon Dooling, Magic: In a market starved for point guards, Dooling might be the best guy left on the board. He can be an excellent defender, has good size for his position and is coming off a solid season. He won't break the bank, and he's not a bad backup either.
7. Brent Barry, Spurs: He still can shoot the basketball. Even though he's 36 years old, a number of teams would love to sign him.
8. Carlos Arroyo, Magic: Arroyo isn't a sexy name, but the market has a shortage of point guards, and Arroyo was more than adequate as a backup in Orlando last season.
9. Bostjan Nachbar, Nets: Nachbar is coming off the best season of his career with the Nets. He's not a starter, but he can provide some shooting and offense off the bench.
10. Eduardo Najera, Nuggets: Najera is a tough, energy guy who'll rebound and bring some grit to your team. But at age 31, how much does he have left in the tank?
Other notables: Matt Barnes, Warriors; Alonzo Mourning, Heat; Patrick O'Bryant, Warriors; Jason Williams, Heat; Juwan Howard, Mavs; Jarvis Hayes, Pistons; Robert Horry, Spurs; Michael Finley, Spurs; Jannero Pargo, Hornets; Damon Stoudamire, Spurs; Sam Cassell, Celtics; Jamaal Magloire, Nets; Kareem Rush, Pacers; Gordan Giricek, Suns; Michael Doleac, Timberwolves; Francisco Elson, Oklahoma City; Quinton Ross, Clippers; Antoine Wright, Mavericks; Fred Jones, Knicks; Juan Dixon, Pistons; Maurice Evans, Magic; Primoz Brezec, Raptors; Anthony Johnson, Kings; Tyronn Lue, Kings; Theo Ratliff, Pistons; Adonal Foyle, Magic; Sebastian Telfair, Timberwolves; Kirk Snyder, Timberwolves; David Harrison, Pacers; Walter Herrmann, Pistons; Tony Allen, Celtics; Salim Stoudamire, Hawks; Mickael Gelabale, Oklahoma City; Randolph Morris, Knicks. |
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Post subject: RE: Restricted Free Agents: We Need One More!!
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 12:50 PM PST
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Clipper 6th Man
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| The name that jumps out at me is RICKY DAVIS!! they have him pegged as a MLE to below MLE level player, based on history...we all know Ricky torches the Clips...can we get him?? |
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Post subject: RFAs to consider: RICKY DAVIS!, Delonte, Finley, etc.
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 12:58 PM PST
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Clipper 6th Man
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Here is my filtered list from my previous Topic Post, where I wanted to see who were available as RFAs that we should consider going after to solidfy our bench:
1. Ricky Davis: he hasn't been mentioned yet, but he torches us all the time...a new fresh team/atmosphere just might motivate him, and we might be able to afford him...
2. Sasha Vujacic: like I said, we need THREES....the rest of our areas are pretty well rounded, except for 3's and could use a lil more scoring...this would cripple the Lakers if we could get him....
3. Delonte West: he can play both guard positions, plays defense, and can hit the 3-ball...but not a sharp shooter....nice talent, and would be one of the top guards in the NBA that comes off the bench...
4. Kelenna Azubuike: Coach D love's this guy...can't hit the 3-ball that well, but can hit it decent at times...athletic and scores ok...great bench player
5. Carlos Delfino: hated him on pistons...looked better on raptors...3-ball is better now...would help our bench and 3's also...
6. Michael Finley: why not...hits 3's, good scorer, veteran leadership...would be a nice pick-up as well
I really feel these are the types we should be looking at now....did I miss anyone?? |
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Post subject: RE: RFAs to consider: RICKY DAVIS!, Delonte, Finley, etc.
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 01:23 PM PST
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Post subject: RE: RFAs to consider: RICKY DAVIS!, Delonte, Finley, etc.
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