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Miquel
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 Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 11:19 AM PST
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clippers0918 wrote:
1) he said more then once he doesnt want to be back with the clippers. and wants to go to a team were he will have a chanse to start.2) he isnt close to ready to play(from what i hear)
but if he is ready to play and clippers can get him to agree to stay then why not?its just a 1mill. not really much to give one of your top prospects a shot.
A chance to start???Maybe in a few years but right now impossible in any team...
People said that he would return at the end of the last season but we are still waiting to see him...Livi's future doesn't sound good. He could be another Jonathan Bender...Hopefully not |
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JamFan
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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 11:19 AM PST
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| Lots of teams have projects as their 13th, 14th, and 15th players. They do not even dress to play in games. Some of them are moved back and forth to the D league so they can get some playing time and dress them to play when they are ready or when needed because of injuries to other players. We owe Livie at least that much of an opportunity. We have absolutely nothing to lose by offering him one of those spots, and everything to gain if he rounds into form. |
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JamFan
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Post subject: A case for Mo Evans
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 11:35 AM PST
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| I was in support of the efforts to sign KAZ, but I would also support bringing in Mo Evans if he could be had for similar numbers. At 29, Mo is freakishly athletic. He is listed as a SG but can and has played backup SF. Last season he averaged 9PPG and 3RPG while shooting 49% from the field and 39% from the 3. He did all of that in only 22 MPG. In the playoffs last year, in the semi's, they upped his minutes to 29 and he averaged 9.6 PPG while shooting a lofty 59% from the field and 44% from the 3. That's enormous. His shooting percentage averaged over the playoffs was 52% and 42% from the 3. So Mo is a very efficient player for the minutes you give him. He is used to being used as a 6th man or coming off the bench. At 3 years and 8 Mil he might be a good bargain. |
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Post subject: RE: A case for Mo Evans
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 11:39 AM PST
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| I think you may be on to something. But we do need another strong defender of the bench. He might b ethat person. |
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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 11:47 AM PST
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toohipcliptoslip wrote:
Wasn't Jackson suspended for a gun problem or something thugish?
That's correct. Plus he's not a FA, so it's a non factor.
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Post subject: Re: A case for Mo Evans
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 11:53 AM PST
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JamFan wrote:
At 3 years and 8 Mil he might be a good bargain.
Mo would be OK. But didn't he turn down a larger offer from GSW? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: A case for Mo Evans
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 12:02 PM PST
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Post subject: RE: Re: A case for Mo Evans
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 12:12 PM PST
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| the GSW's offered him like 2.6 a year. We can offer him 3. Take it or leave it Mo!!!!! |
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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 12:24 PM PST
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| What about Fred Jones. I've heard people talk about him. Is he a decent player. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: A case for Mo Evans
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 12:24 PM PST
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| You know, I like Sasha and his outside shooting, but Sasha wants 5-6 Mil. We could probably get Mo for 3 Mil, and Mo can play backup SF even though at 6'5" he is a little short for that position. It is his long arms and athleticism that allows him to play SF, though his natural postion is SG. He is quick so he can D up pretty well. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: A case for Mo Evans
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 12:29 PM PST
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| I would much prefer Mo over Sasha... |
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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 12:32 PM PST
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| I agree that we should give him another shot, but its up to him to decide whether he wants to sign with us for lesser money. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: A case for Mo Evans
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 12:34 PM PST
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| If you guys are for it i guess. Lets just hope front office has another trick up there sleeves |
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Post subject: RE: Re: A case for Mo Evans
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 12:39 PM PST
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| Dunleavy " Hey Rocky watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat". He's gotta pull out another good trick. What a heck of a off season. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: A case for Mo Evans
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 12:42 PM PST
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MrB wrote:
Dunleavy " Hey Rocky watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat". He's gotta pull out another good trick. What a heck of a off season.
LOL |
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Post subject: A case for JR Smith
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 12:51 PM PST
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| Ok, JR only made 2 Mil last season, so 3Mil would be a raise for the 22 year old. When his minds is right, he is another scoring machine. At 6'6" he is listed at SG but is considered a swing because he can play some SF as well. Last year he went for 12PPG and 2 RPG but in only 19MPG. He shot 46% from the field and 40% from the 3. He is another guy who upped his game during the playoffs. He went for 18PPG in 27 minutes while shooting a lofty 54%. Not bad for an outside shooter. But he can go to the hoop as well and I don't think he shot 54% without driving to the bucket at least part of the time. He is restricted, so would a 3 Mil offer for 3-4 years get an offer sheet signed and would Denver match? Well, JR did have relationship problems with the coach. Would that be a reason for Denver to bail? Don't know. But JR is a very young guy and sometimes they mature a little and that would make him a very good addition to the Clips lineup. Trust me, this guy can out score Kelenna or Mo Evans any day of the week. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: A case for Mo Evans
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 12:55 PM PST
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| i think we actually have more than 3 mil to shell out....hoopsworld including buke's conract at 2.9 mil still had us with 800,000-900,000 left under the cap....so technically we could offer somewhere around 3.5+?? |
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Post subject: RE: A case for JR Smith
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 12:56 PM PST
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| denver would be laughing if they only had to match 3 mil! |
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Post subject: RE: A case for JR Smith
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 12:57 PM PST
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| I agree completely, JR Smith is the way to go! People seem hesitant to sign him because he has attitude problems, but it's not like it's Ron Artest here. He's not getting drug violations and suspension, dude's just got a bunch of tattoos |
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Post subject: RE: A case for JR Smith
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 01:07 PM PST
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| Camby might have a say in this as well, he'll know if the guy is a head case or not |
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Post subject: A (better) case for Kirk Snyder
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 01:14 PM PST
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MrB
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Post subject: RE: A (better) case for Kirk Snyder
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 01:19 PM PST
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| Kirk Snyder-good defender but has limited offensive skills. Do we need more offense or defense off the bench? If its defense, take snyder. |
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clipperfan909
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Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 01:21 PM PST
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I think this would be a great move because I love his game and think that that if he keeps his head on straight he has a chance to be a star.
The problem though, and the reason why I don't think this is going to happen is because we face the same situation that we faced with the Warriors. The Nuggets will match no matter what because of all the heat they are getting for the Camby trade. They can't risk losing another one of their players to Clippers for nothing the way the Warriors couldn't risk losing another one of their players to Clippers which is why they matched Azu's contract. |
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Post subject: RE: A (better) case for Kirk Snyder
Posted: Jul 25, 2008 - 01:35 PM PST
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| yea but that was kinda a long time ago. |
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