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Post ID: 427745by CP3Heliflopter » Jan 08, 2014 - 12:54 PM PST
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Looked better than SJax I will give him that. That being said no more wings or PGs. Where are the big men?

Hmm he is actually a PF not a wing. Might be worth picking up. Better than Mullens and maybe Hollins. Man are we desperate. Sad



                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 427746by clipnasty » Jan 08, 2014 - 01:06 PM PST
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Welp, Wayns is signed.

                
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Post ID: 427748by jarca » Jan 08, 2014 - 01:08 PM PST
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What a waste of spot. He must be great in practice

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 427779by austin009009 » Jan 08, 2014 - 04:39 PM PST
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its only a 10 day contract, not a waste.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 427780by austin009009 » Jan 08, 2014 - 04:39 PM PST
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just a quick pickup to take some minutes off of D col

                
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Post ID: 427793by Agent0 » Jan 08, 2014 - 06:17 PM PST
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Lol, yes we are, yes we are

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 428144by Voyeur » Jan 09, 2014 - 11:04 AM PST
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I think I see why we re-signed Wayns. Doc is trying to experiment to see who's best to back up DC. First Morris saw time against Orlando. Then it was Wayns last night against Boston. I wouldn't be surprised if Morris was back on the court Friday. I think Doc wants to figure out who looks better.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 428293by Clipperjan » Jan 10, 2014 - 03:17 PM PST
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"Darius Morris is close to Olympiacos according to Djordje Matic. Morris signed a ten day deal with Clippers and may join the Euroleague champions if Los Angeles won't extend his deal." If he has already talked to the Euroleague do you think that he knows that he will be released?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 428294by jtwinnaz » Jan 10, 2014 - 03:25 PM PST
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i hope it means we're getting bynum

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 428319by namzug » Jan 10, 2014 - 05:20 PM PST
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@Voyeur I think he's doing the same thing. Wayns has the upper hand already having plenty of time to know everyone's tendencies and the plays. He also knows what Doc expects out of him, while Morris is fresh off the street and has only this short time to figure it out.

There is also the part where it is very likely that the Clips want to leave a spot open as well sign Bynum. They can just keep using up 10 day contracts unless someone really impresses.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 428328by jazclipcity3 » Jan 10, 2014 - 06:36 PM PST
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Go to the d league give Ricky Davis a 10 day then find Shannon brown and give him a shot too ; D

                
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Post ID: 428329by CapsNClips » Jan 10, 2014 - 06:38 PM PST
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We just got J.J. back and are soon to get Bullock back. Why do we need more SG's?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 428333by jazclipcity3 » Jan 10, 2014 - 06:45 PM PST
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I know I guess I just get excited for 10 day contracts! Haha I'm very curious though about what's going on in doc's mind right nOw. He has to be trying to find somewhere for Byron and Ryan to go. He clearly doesn't like the play of Mullens.... we were up by 30 at one point against Orlando and he STILL didn't go in until it was garbage time smh

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 428822by CapsNClips » Jan 11, 2014 - 03:56 PM PST
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Shouldn't we be signing someone right now, since we have a 4 day break to learn our plays?

                
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Post ID: 428824by Icecoldclipper » Jan 11, 2014 - 04:16 PM PST
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This would be the perfect time.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 428828by Heediot » Jan 11, 2014 - 05:12 PM PST
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If the Suns begin sliding without Bledsoe, there's a chance Okafor gets bought out.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 428927by Clipswhit » Jan 12, 2014 - 07:14 PM PST
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Why not try out some old clippers? Craig Smith or Ike Diogu were great b/u bigs for us once upon a time. Could both e had for the min, & I think they'd both play well next to Hollins. If not, Reggie Evans for a 2nd and the TPE (Mullens if they'll take him). I'd give odom a chance as well.

                
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Post ID: 428932by wessleejr » Jan 12, 2014 - 09:11 PM PST
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yep i like craig smith as blake back up can shoot and depend good inside and can rebound.

                
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Post ID: 428937by Akclipps » Jan 12, 2014 - 11:14 PM PST
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Yeah craig "rhino" smith will be a perfec fit right now.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 428938by Andrew818 » Jan 12, 2014 - 11:47 PM PST
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I think it's time to cut Wayns and Morris and sign some D-League bigs to some 10 day contracts.Pairing Willie and Crawford off the bench is a better back up back court than Morris or Maalik.Crawford is more comfortable with the ball in his hands anyways and with Redick and Bullock returning we are good at the wing.What we need are back up bigs imo.Jamison has been awful recently.You can live with his horrible defense if he is making shots,but he isn't.Mullens hasn't been any better,he chucks up some horrible shots and Doc doesn't seem to have any confidence in him.And while Hollins gives you some highlight plays once in a while he just isn't a good defender or rebounder.Luckily for us Blake and DJ have been playing great but we need at least one reliable back up big in case of foul trouble.

The D-League doesn't have great talent but it does have some nice looking prospects.Two guys I like are: Jarvis Varnado - Pro:A very good defender and shot blocker.He is good at running the floor and rebounding.

Con:Has a good reach but is undersized at 6'9" and 230 LBS. http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/jarvis_varnado/

Dewayne Dedmon - Pro:A energy guy who is very active defensively and is a good athlete.

Con:Still is raw and can get into foul trouble. http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/dewayne_dedmon/

Neither of these guys are missing pieces to winning a championship but I think both are guys who can help our bench.Both bring it defensively and go after rebounds at both ends.Neither bring much offensively but neither do any of our other bigs.At least with these two you can expect a lot of energy on defense and they will protect the rim and rebound which our bench really needs imo.I like the idea of signing one of these guys to a 10 day contract and pairing them with Hedo who Doc reportedly liked during his workout.Hedo can help spread the floor while Varnado or Dedmon do all the dirty work.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 428939by Voyeur » Jan 12, 2014 - 11:52 PM PST
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^ I think we'll need at least one of those guys, Wayns or Morris. In case something should happen to DC (heaven forbid). Gotta have one available. I think Doc likes Morris' size and defense. But Wayns seems to be better offensively. I'd lean toward Wayns myself.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 428940by wessleejr » Jan 12, 2014 - 11:54 PM PST
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D-league is different than NBA it doesn't mean they are good in D-league they can bring it to NBA. I did not see varnado and Dedmon better than an experience bench NBA player. They look good there because they are playing a D-league player.

                
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Post ID: 428946by Andrew818 » Jan 13, 2014 - 01:27 AM PST
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I know that.That's why I only listed these 2.There are a couple of D-League players putting up decent numbers but out of all of them I think these guys are two of the best prospects in the D-League in terms of bigs.Both are limited offensively but are good defenders.It may or may not translate to the NBA but if you look at our current bigs,bringing in younger talent who might be able to help can't hurt.Every once in a while you find a D-League player who can contribute.For example Jeremy Lin,Gerald Green,and Danny Green come to mind.Sure it's rare but I don't see what harm a 10 day contract or two can do.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 428965by MunoValente » Jan 13, 2014 - 12:46 PM PST
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When can guys from China be signed? Someone like Ivan Johnson or Delonte West might be useful.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 429043by namzug » Jan 14, 2014 - 09:56 AM PST
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Depends on their contract, most have to wait until their respective teams season is over. Others have early out clauses for the NBA. I'm pretty sure it ends sometime in March, so there isn't a lot of time, but sometimes teams can get out if their team is eliminated from the playoffs.

Looking at Ivan and Shavlick's stats over in the Chinese league I ran into the rhino's stats, and have to say not bad. It doesn't look like he's played this season, but last season he was averaging over 10 boards over there.

Shavlick seems to be hurt or something, because he hasn't played since November. Ivan and a Chris Johnson seem to be doing well overseas. Haddadi is doing well to in the Chinese league or at least it seems like.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 429062by Clippersfan86 » Jan 14, 2014 - 01:29 PM PST
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Hedo could be signed today. I'm warming up to the idea because I know what Doc/Gentry are doing. They have said they love Griffin at center for his quickness. Running Griffin/Hedo together for stretches at 4/5 will be awesomeif Hedo has anything left. Both are extremely versatile and gifted passers. I'm down to try this if Hedo mostly plays 4 and not 3.

                
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Post ID: 429064by CapsNClips » Jan 14, 2014 - 01:37 PM PST
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I'm warming up to the idea also. Two 6'10 guys who can pass the ball exceptionally well playing side by side can create very good ball movement.

A huge part of Orlando's offense when they had Dwight was ball movement and kicking it out to shooters.

                
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Post ID: 429065by worm » Jan 14, 2014 - 01:42 PM PST
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Agree Hedo will be better as stretch 4.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 429066by MunoValente » Jan 14, 2014 - 01:45 PM PST
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Do we have a time machine to get the Turkoglu from several years ago to play for us? Because the one that played last year and at Eurobasket this summer is not an NBA caliber player. Dude shot .042% on threes last year, that is worse than Jackson's .071 that got him quickly cut this year.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 429068by ClippersDA » Jan 14, 2014 - 02:10 PM PST
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I have no idea what doc is thinking. No more broken down vets. I can't even look at this guy without cracking up.

                
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Post ID: 429095by Dunkathon » Jan 14, 2014 - 03:43 PM PST
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You know the choices are as follows, right?

  1. Broken down veterans

  2. D-Leaguers, most of whom will be almost as bad as the broken down vets.

  3. Making a trade.

The trade deadline isn't until February 13th, so I'm not panicking yet.

                
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Post ID: 429138by Agent0 » Jan 14, 2014 - 08:31 PM PST
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Hmmm, I'd think former Laker Shawne Williams could have fit the bill while also defending.

He's not a great or even good shooter career wise. His 40.1% for 64 games in New York seems like an anomaly now, but he's mediocre with a career 33.3%. He's also a decent defender and can rebound defensively and block a few shots here and there.

                
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Post ID: 429150by CP3Heliflopter » Jan 14, 2014 - 09:53 PM PST
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I rather have Shawne Williams. Not sure what Hedo can do at this point at least we know Shawne is good at one side of the ball.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 429152by CapsNClips » Jan 14, 2014 - 10:17 PM PST
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We need bigs who can actually score, Shawne Williams is not that person. We don't need a PF version of Hollins.

Hedo isn't that good on offense either, but he's good enough for Jamal to pass it to him every once in a while. Jamal barely passes to Blake and he's definitely not going to pass it to Williams.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 429155by Agent0 » Jan 14, 2014 - 10:34 PM PST
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Well that would imply that Hollins can shoot from range and actually defend well though Wink. I'm not sure we necessarily need bigs who can score, we need bigs who can do something on offense, sure, but Williams can at least play pick and pop and spot up and hit shots (not as well as one would like), but more importantly, he can also defend. The bigs off the bench still suck on defense.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 429204by namzug » Jan 15, 2014 - 10:20 AM PST
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I'm not so down on Hollins as the rest of us, I think we knew what we were getting with him. I'm more disappointed in Jamison and just how bad Mullens is. I wasn't the biggest supporter of Mullens, but I tried to be optimistic especially after I read the article about him becoming a father. I think the mistake was going after both Mullens and Hollins. It is one thing to have one guy that you know sucks and hopes surprises you, we have two and they play the same positions. Our other option in Jamison isn't really that great either and he can't play center.

                
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Post ID: 429227by Agent0 » Jan 15, 2014 - 11:49 AM PST
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I agree, and I also don't mind Hollins, but as a third big. I'm not big on him as a 2nd big.

...back to the statement, yes, what most of us didn't like was going after 3 backup bigs, no which were known for defensive ability. At least mix and match with the bigs if they are all lower level players.

Hollins is the closest to being good on defense, but he fouls too much, gets off his feet too much and can't defensive rebound that well.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 429928by CapsNClips » Jan 16, 2014 - 01:59 AM PST
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Um.....What.....The.....F*ck!

                
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Post ID: 429930by cleepers » Jan 16, 2014 - 02:11 AM PST
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CapsNClips wrote:

Um.....What.....The.....F*ck!

I concur. Sounds like Doc is doing it for a bet.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 429941by clippyclip » Jan 16, 2014 - 07:38 AM PST
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*Scratching head* Well, maybe we're cutting Wayns (again), and need Morris until CP3 gets back. Who knows, maybe Morris just has the better attitude or something.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 429944by Akclipps » Jan 16, 2014 - 09:21 AM PST
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Or he's just bigger.. All of our pg r small

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 429945by clippyclip » Jan 16, 2014 - 09:36 AM PST
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Yeah that could be. I really don't like his game though - terminates his dribble all the time and gets caught in the air.

                
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Post ID: 429947by Clipperjan » Jan 16, 2014 - 10:04 AM PST
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According to Dan Woike on Twitter: Doc said Clippers anticipate signing Hedo Turkoglu - likely will happen Thursday or Friday. (1-15-14)

According to the LA Times "The Clippers also still are considering signing former Lakers shooting guard Sasha Vujacic, according to NBA executives who were not authorized to speak publicly about the situation. (1-15-14)

Doc has said that he is also looking at Lamar Odom.

We are going to sign Darius Morris to another 10 day contract, sign Hedo Turkoglu to the end of the season and we are considering signing Sasha Vujacic and looking at Lamar Odom. If we waive Maalik Wayns, I still come up with 17 players on the team if we do this. Confused

So my question is are we getting in a position to make trades that we do not know about? Confused

                
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Post ID: 429949by CP3Heliflopter » Jan 16, 2014 - 10:46 AM PST
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He has more experience than Wayns which should count for something.

                
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Post ID: 429952by Silasie » Jan 16, 2014 - 10:56 AM PST
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Sasha Vujacic, a shooting guard. Don't we have 3 of those already...........either we are going to make a trade of it is a baseless rumour. 4 shooting gaurds doesn't make any sense, unless Doc really wants to play A LOT of small ball Wink

                
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Post ID: 429953by jarca » Jan 16, 2014 - 11:11 AM PST
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As long as he's in shape and can hit open shots he'll be fine.

                
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Post ID: 429956by Silasie » Jan 16, 2014 - 11:43 AM PST
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Well if that's the plan it makes a bit more sense cos I and many of us have been waiting for a decent back up big and with that plan Hedo kind of is. Of course kind of are the operative words so we might need another big for when we play bigger teams.

                
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Post ID: 429961by wessleejr » Jan 16, 2014 - 11:55 AM PST
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If we will sign Vujacic then why we will bring back Morris he is not even contributing in his last 10 days with us.Well IMO Vujacic will fit in our system because he runs a lot, good defense, hit 3 and good ball handling.

                
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Post ID: 429963by tense2 » Jan 16, 2014 - 12:10 PM PST
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Morris had 3 assist in 6 mins last night. Not bad.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Clippers Free Agency Watch Thread 2013 Post ID: 430126by namzug » Jan 17, 2014 - 11:30 AM PST
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Just wanted to put this on here, Ivan Johnson doing great in China. Atlanta is already trying to bring him back. I think we can get him if the front office convinces his agent and him what a deep playoff run could do for his stock.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/player ... amp;spln=1

                
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