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ClipperKyle32
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Clippers said to be looking into Patty Mills if DC walks. Also into Dejaun Blair and Jordan Hill per ChrisClipsLa

I really like Brandon Wright

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We shall see, but I would be very happy if we got Jordan Hill/Blair. Those would be great fits!

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Jordan Hill would be very nice! Blair?? Might as well keep Baby if you're going for Blair.

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ClipperKyle32 wrote:
Clippers said to be looking into Patty Mills if DC walks. Also into Dejaun Blair and Jordan Hill per ChrisClipsLa

I really like Brandon Wright

I love patty mills! But I doubt the spurs let him walk or that we can afford him.

I prefer him to collison

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not too sure a bout Jordan Hill, as long as we don't get ripped of though

ClipperKyle32
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Why does SAS have our draft pic?

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I think they acquired it from Minnesota.

Just watch, the Spurs are gonna turn that 58th pick into a star player.

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What do you think of Rudy Fernandez from Spain he is a great shooter?

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We need a SF. If we can't get one of the big name guys, I say we go after Demarre Carroll. We need a defensive minded player on our team. Our team was basically all offense this season other than a few stretches when our defense actually locked in. Carroll is the 3 and D guy we need.

ClipperKyle32
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remember when we almost signed Ray Allen instead of Jamal Crawford????

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Wouldn't mind going after Boozer if the bulls actually amnesty him.

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I really like Jordan Hill for us

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He is the type of guy we need to counter energy bigs like Faried, Diaw, Collision, and etc. Speed, good size, strength and athletic. If we can add him and get another big would call that a winning off season .

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Riiiiiight. It was the Zebras. Yeah, that's the ticket.

danielson
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Hill would be a great pick up. I can easily see him taking DJ's minutes at the end of games

JQuick32
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I thought it was a big mistake at the time and still do. Thanks, Vinny! mad

We could have used an actually clutch player like RayRay down the stretch in Game 5, that's for sure.

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Yeah so we'll just look at the one series, pretend the officiating was fine, and forget everything else. By the way , how'd KG look this year LOL. Whatever floats your boat CJ.

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I thought it was Ray Allen instead of Chauncey Billups. A REAL mistake.

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Believe Allen always wanted to go to the Heat. Clippers may have been a back up only.

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this wouldn't hurt, need some physicality in the paint

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I'd love Jordan Hill. I think he would be what we were expecting from Big Baby.

My wish list in tiers (please remember its just a wish list) :

  1. (other than maybe Ariza probably not likely)

Hayward

Stephenson

Ariza

Deng

  1. (If we got Livingston back and Frye or Hill I'd be excited)

Livingston

Hill

Tucker

Frye

Wes Johnson

Alan Anderson

Brand

  1. (Outside of Ivan, a good Veteran presence might help)

Ivan Johnson

Marion

Carter

Diaw

Aminu

Sefalosha

  1. Beno

Ayon

Stiemsma

  1. (I think these guys are low risk high reward types)

Earl Clark

Shannon Brown

Brandon Rush

Bernard James

ClipperKyle32
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I like Shannon Brown as well

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Brandon Rush would be interesting. Maybe could pour in a three or 2 off the bench.

Anyhow, I still don't think we can afford to get Ariza, Livingston, Hill and someone else without shifting our roster and how our cap space is.

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jordan hill would be a nice big back up..

how much would we have to offer him?

4 mil???

then we can draft a big or a point guard in the draft.. someone who can play defense,and also has some offensive skills..

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Lance Stephenson anyone? I think he's supposed to be a free agent this summer. I know we already have JJ and Jamal, but Stephenson is a tough minded SG who can score, get assists, play defense, and grab rebounds. Maybe we can trade one of two SG's away.

Yeah, I know Stephenson's not the most likable guy, but who really cares when he's on your side. Reggie Evans finds a way to get under everyone's skins, but he was still a fan favorite here. And even though we should only keep Barnes if he is a minimal role player, it's not because of his reputation. It's because of his declining skills due to his age. Plus he's never been a starter and asking him to do so this season just exploited his weaknesses. I actually like his hard nosed attitude and competitiveness.

But back to Stephenson haha. Our main two weaknesses this season were rebounding and a lack of defensive minded players. Stephenson provides both of those for us. You guys agree?

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Someone will offer him near-max money, we can't afford him.

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Damn, you really think he's going to get near max-money? If you're right, I feel bad for that team. Can you say Rudy Gay sized mistake? Both those guys are nice players, but by offering them that much money, you're really putting yourself in a hole as a team. Too much money invested in solid, but not great players is not a recipe for success.

Well in that case, let's just find a starting SF.

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rashad lewis still has some in the tank. i wouldn't mind going after him this offseason.

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Lance Stevenson is really really really good.. Don't think we can afford him.

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There are a few players that will be available on the free-agent market that can give Paul a bit of respite from his defensive responsibilities. The Clippers should take a long and hard look at these types. Keep in mind, L.A. should be in the hunt for a perimeter stopper, and they will gladly accept a player who can also make shots.

Thus, free agents with 3-D capabilities (three-pointers and defense) will warrant more attention than your typical defender that brings nothing else to the table.

Before delving into the players L.A. could go after, we need to establish how much it is the Clippers can spend on the open market.

According to Sham Sports, Los Angeles should have a payroll of $76.3 million in 2014-15, if they bring back Willie Green and his non-guaranteed contract, along with Danny Granger, Darren Collison and Glen Davis-that is if all three exercise their player options.

On the flipside, if L.A. loses one of the players with player options and waives Green before July 1, that gives them a cap figure in the range of $73 million. Also, only $1.5 million of Jamal Crawford's $5.5 million for the 2014-15 campaign is guaranteed if waived before June 30.

In the case of Crawford, it's an option worth considering, but given that he is a key bench contributor, he should remain with the team.

Thus, the Clippers have the means to shed some salary.

That's important because the projected luxury tax for next season will crest at $77 million, according to NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement expert Larry Coon.

It's an important piece of information because that will determine the amount Los Angeles can present to a potential free agent. Here are the salary exceptions available per Coon's CBAFAQ:

Taxpayer mid-level: $3.278

Non-Taxpayer mid-level exception $5.305

If the Clippers retain the previously mentioned players, they are obligated to use the taxpayer mid-level.

They cannot use the non-taxpayer mid-level despite the fact they are beneath the luxury-tax line. The reason is simple: if using the mid-level causes a team to land above the apron ($4 million over the luxury-tax line), said team is ruled ineligible for the non-taxpayer mid-level.

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, here is the list of perimeter defenders that will be on the market this summer:

Ariza is perhaps the ideal player for L.A. He's a decent long-range shooter as evidenced by his 34.7 percent career three-point shooting mark, and he's a good defender.

At 6'8'', Ariza has the length to bother just about every perimeter player, and he usually does a good job of staying in front of people. What's more, Ariza is from Los Angeles, thus he might be willing to go back home for less than what he made this season.

Ariza used to play for the Los Angeles Lakers, winning a title with the Purple and Gold in 2009. He left the team when the Lakers decided to go after Metta World Peace in free agency (both share the same position).

The Clippers could certainly use Ariza, but he does come with a pretty sizable question mark. Beware of the contract-year disease. Ariza signed a five-year, $33.5 million deal with the Houston Rockets after nailing 47.6 percent of his 2009 postseason treys with the Lakers.

Interestingly enough, Ariza hit 44.6 percent of his treys during this last playoff run with the Washington Wizards. In non-contract years, Ariza's been sub-40 percent from three-point range during the playoffs.

In other words, he won't always be a perfect 3-D player.

Another option could be Luol Deng. He's only a 32.9 percent career three-point shooter, but Deng typically defends at a high level. At 6'8'', he can guard a variety of perimeter players and can even masquerade occasionally as a power forward when the Clippers downsize.

Deng would be a perfect fit in L.A. because of his defensive commitment and willingness to play within the constructs of the team at both ends of the court. However, it seems a little difficult to envision Deng signing with the Clippers for a sum in the $3 to $5.3 million range after earning a little over $14 million in 2013-14.

Instead, I could see Los Angeles going after either Shaun Livingston of the Brooklyn Nets or Thabo Sefolosha of the Oklahoma City Thunder, with Livingston holding a slight edge. He isn't a great defensive player, but the former Clipper is certainly bothersome.

At 6'7'', he does a good job of staying in front of his man and bothering shooters with his length.

The free-agent route is a path worth visiting, but the Clippers could also acquire a stopper via trade.

Prior to the trade deadline, L.A. held some discussions about bringing in Iman Shumpert from the New York Knicks according to the Los Angeles Times' Broderick Turner.

The Knicks ultimately passed, but they might be open to making this move during the offseason depending on the pieces involved in the deal. Turner noted that New York was willing to part with Raymond Felton at the time, and it might want to revisit the possibility.

The Clippers could send Matt Barnes and Darren Collison (if he opts into his deal) to New York in a swap for Felton and Shumpert. Barnes will have two years left on his deal with the final season earning him $3.4 million. Granted, only $1 million is guaranteed in the last year of the contract, per Sham Sports.

Shumpert is a terrific defender with an incredibly cheap contract (set to make $2.6 million next season), and that makes him quite valuable. New York appears to have actually noticed.

The New York Post's Marc Berman explained in mid-March: "Now Shumpert appears to have a legitimate future with Phil Jackson's Knicks. According to a league source, Jackson is a fan of Shumpert."

If Shumpert is off the table, the Clippers should seriously consider trading for Tony Allen of the Grizzlies. Allen is signed until the conclusion of the 2016-17 campaign to a deal that averages out to roughly $5 million per year.

There might be some trepidation about Allen given that he's a huge offensive liability. Allen enjoys freelancing every now and then, and his 26.4 career percent three-point shooting sometimes sabotages his team's offense.

But by the same token, he is perhaps the best perimeter defender in the league. He is aggressive, strong, quick and plays with an edge that creates fear in offensive players.

In the opening round of the playoffs, Allen was partly responsible for holding league scoring champion Kevin Durant to 29.9 points per game on 44 percent shooting after he averaged 32 points on 50.3 percent shooting during the regular season.

Durant acknowledged to ESPN.com's Brian Windhorst that Allen was in his head during the first round of the playoffs: "I'm worrying about a guy coming from behind trying to block the shot. I've just got to focus in on the rim and my shot. I can't go out there and think too much, I have to let my instincts take over."

Los Angeles will have an abundance of options at their disposal in the summer, and it's clear that they must look at each and every one of them. Paul cannot continue to carry the burden Rivers placed on his shoulders, and hopefully the coaching staff realizes that.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2073 ... ext-season

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Need Ariza and another athletic player, preferably on the wing. Need a backup big with girth that can rebound

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sure why not Smile

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ClipperKyle32 wrote:

Interesting. I hope we sign him to a $14mil a year extension, then LeBron opts into Miami for one more season, then next season it will be easier to match salaries when we trade DJ and fillers for LeBron.

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All I know is something has to happen. I think we need big time help at the 3 position... we've needed it forever.. since before we drafted Al Farouq Aminu.. That chief never arrived..

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JJ did good for us.... but.. IDK... I just don't know. I'm fine with JJ gone, Crawford gone, basically anyone not named Blake or Chris..

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Blow up the team and get Carmelo... He deserves to play with Chris and Blake in LA.

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Or DJ. There are so few true centers in this center less League that, if you can, keep Jordan. Where have all the rebounds gone? -- that would be the Clippers song without DJ.

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so we'd sign DJ to $14m/year just for the off chance that we could maybe trade him for Lebron, if Lebron decided he wants to be a Clipper which we currently have no indication of? You shouldn't be a GM, lol

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Sleeper FA- I would love James Johnson from Memphis, with the neck tats... dude can play. I'd take Birdman Anderson too.

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James Jognson is one of those tricky players. His talent is known, but #1 he's a tweener SF/PF. After that, he has the problem that coaches, team builders and some fans understand, but sometimes isn't understood well.

He's a very versatile and talented player who is average to above average at a lot of things, but not good or great at anything. What sometimes can happen with players like that is that if they don't improve to good / great at anything, they show a lot of flashes, but can never be consistent.

What also happens with players like that is that they are talented and versatile, so they try to do a lot of things and are unable to be effective playing like that. Maybe Johnson found it last season, though using him as a SF, the 3PT% is just too low. It's why for a lot of teams a low usage role player who is really good at one thing is superior for a team to a versatile and skilled player who tries to play like a star but can't produce the effectiveness of one. It's sort of like a prime Battier vs last seasons Evan Turner. Battier is better for any good team. Turner isn't "better" because the team loses, but in a high usage role on a bad team, that's about the only place where a guy like that would be better.

Johnson is similar. He can pass, he can dribble, rebound a little, but for his career he's generally been an inefficient scorer who turned it over too much, didn't have a position he consistently defended well, wasn't a good enough or consistent outside shooter and had the tendency to play beyond his abilities and therefore hurt the team with poor shot selection, wild play and turnovers.

With that said, I'd sign him for cheap if possible. You don't want to fall for the flashes or being good without solid support (even more than his 50+ games last season) that this player can now be effective while trying to do it all, pay a guy like that too much or rely on them, but at reasonable prices, expectations and roles, it becomes a good risk to take.

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👆👆👆👆👆 who???

ClipperKyle32
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Opinions On Lance Stephenson? If would could acquire him... Would you take him? Could Doc transform him?

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He is a rich man's JR Smith at best. Not interested + the price tag would be too high.

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Evan Turner and Beasley should be cheap options this off season.

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Evan Turner proved what I had previously said about him. Much more useful player on a bad team where it's okay to give him so many possessions so that his raw stats make him look like a high impact player as opposed to on a good team that's probably more interested in spacing, shooting, defense and efficient scoring from their guard/forward who isn't a star.

If he's cheap, maybe, but we'll see.

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i would take beasley over turner. he shoots the 3 better and we could probably get him at a cheaper price. doc did pretty good with delonte west i think he could handle beasley.

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I like jordan hill too...can he play center???

if so...he would be the perfect backup big for us..

and if doc can improve his game..he might be the clipper future center..

and we can trade dj and get our sf that has eluded us.. Smile

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Beasley has no position on our team, and he can't defend a position in the NBA, he wouldn't be helpful.

Thabo Sefolosha - seems like his role keeps decreasing in OKC, maybe it is time to move

I agree with Jordan Hill, but I don't know about that one price wise.

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Looks like roy hibbert might be on the trading block. I know he had an awful second half of the season but maybe a change of scenery and doc keeping his head straight, might do the trick. U trade DJ and willie green (so the contracts match), sign jordan hill so Hibbert doesn't doesn't burn out at the end of a long season

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