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ClipSince7thGrade
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Now that we have the richest owner in the NBA with Steve Ballmer we can go above the luxury and I'm sure Mr. Ballmer is more than willing to do that to make sure we win multiple championships. With that being said though, just because we have the assets to do it doesn't mean we should. The free agents that I'd love to go after are Carmelo Anthony first and for most. I think with the addition of Melo we'd....

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Scared of Pierce. He might turn out to be like Billups where he expects minutes just caused of the name on his jersey ....

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Oh also forgot Mike Miller is available. Should keep him in mind as a third string option

ClipSince7thGrade
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Scared of Pierce. He might turn out to be like Billups where he expects minutes just caused of the name on his jersey
Yeah I completely get where you're coming from but I think the at this point in his career he's more concerned with winning another ring rather than getting minutes. We saw evidence of that this past season with Pierce coming off the bench for Brooklyn a good chunk of games. Also Pierce actually came out publicly....

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Also the only point guard I'd want us to go after is Shawn Livingston. Can really help our team and would pair great with both JCrossover and DC ....

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Only way I see Pierce on the bench for us is if there is a clear cut better option. Unless we get high upside guy in the draft or Carmelo he starts. ....

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http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/05/shawn-marion-says-he -wants-to-play-where-he-can-win-a-ring/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium= twitter MARION WANTS TO PLAY WHERE HE CAN GET A RING ....

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http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/05/shawn-marion-says-he -wants-to-play-where-he-can-win-a-ring/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium= twitter MARION WANTS TO PLAY WHERE HE CAN GET A RING
I love Marion, but he's really on the old side. He would bring veteran experience and be a great defender though, so if the price is right, maybe. ....

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I like Hinrich too, I've always liked his game

Agent0
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Scared of Pierce. He might turn out to be like Billups where he expects minutes just caused of the name on his jersey
Well as long as he doesn't get an Achilles injury and isn't being played out of position as a PF, then actually it isn't really an issue. Billups issues also stemmed from his injury and him being played as a SG, it was actually fine in year 1 even though I still didn't like the SG Billups.....

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I'm not as high on Carmelo as everyone else. I feel he is too much of an Iso player and losing Alvin Gentry would only encourage that type of play in my opinion. I don't hate Carmelo, I just try to think of players that would play defense all out and still fit the mold of Doc's (Alvin's) motion offense. I'd prefer Deng over Carmelo at this point. If Deng can be had and a solid PF/C back....

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if they can get paul gasol on the cheap...that would take care of pf/c backup...he could play 15 min a game.. deng on the mid level exception.. and west as pg back up.. ....

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I'm not as high on Carmelo as everyone else. I feel he is too much of an Iso player and losing Alvin Gentry would only encourage that type of play in my opinion. I don't hate Carmelo, I just try to think of players that would play defense all out and still fit the mold of Doc's (Alvin's) motion offense. I'd prefer Deng over Carmelo at this point. If Deng can be had and a solid PF/C back....

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What everyone is failing to realize is that Melo plays his game according to the coach and offensive system that he is in. So it causes him to play iso a lot because he's the only factor. Examples. .... In denver, George Karl was a iso offensive type of guy. The same with Dantoni and Woodson when they were in NY. Melo has "NEVER" had a pass first point guard. And that's why he would thrive on the Clippers and....

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Karl is not an iso coach as evidenced by how the team played after Melo left, and actually how Melo played when Karl first came, especially with Andre Miller. He really got him to not let the ball get stuck, but Melo reverted back to similar habits. Woodson I agree is an iso coach, so he certainly makes it look worse. ....

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The more I research the more it seems like we are stuck with Barnes. Unfortunately Granger didn't pan out. That would have been perfect. I'd take a Battier type player at the starting 3. If Perkins is Cut I would def like him as a backup. I think Agent0 is severely under valuing DJ. I need to see this list of Centers who can match DJ in production and future potential. His Freakish athleticism has to be accounted for. He gets 10 ppg with the....

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Any way we can nab Gerald Green from the Suns. He was playing great last year and seems to have finally started to figure it out. He can shoot it off the catch and dribble and is great for transition and lob plays. His d is getting better and with all of the tools he has, Doc can make him the defensive shooting threat we need for the wing ....

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The more I research the more it seems like we are stuck with Barnes. Unfortunately Granger didn't pan out. That would have been perfect. I'd take a Battier type player at the starting 3. If Perkins is Cut I would def like him as a backup. I think Agent0 is severely under valuing DJ. I need to see this list of Centers who can match DJ in production and future potential. His Freakish athleticism has to be accounted for. He gets 10 ppg with the....

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Here is what we do in short. We get LeBron in a sign and trade with him taking less money and us sending DJ, Dudley and Green to Miami. We sign some garbage guys to fill the bench with and look for options on a serviceable and cheap center - Aaron Gray, Okafor, Mohammed, O'Neal. We resign Collison if he opts out. Final result: PG - Paul / Collison SG - JJ / J-Cross / SF - LeBron / Barnes / Bullock PF - Blake....

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Here is what we do in short. We get LeBron in a sign and trade with him taking less money and us sending DJ, Dudley and Green to Miami. We sign some garbage guys to fill the bench with and look for options on a serviceable and cheap center - Aaron Gray, Okafor, Mohammed, O'Neal. We resign Collison if he opts out. Final result: PG - Paul / Collison SG - JJ / J-Cross / SF - LeBron / Barnes / Bullock PF - Blake....

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ClipSince7thGrade
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Any way we can nab Gerald Green from the Suns. He was playing great last year and seems to have finally started to figure it out. He can shoot it off the catch and dribble and is great for transition and lob plays. His d is getting better and with all of the tools he has, Doc can make him the defensive shooting threat we need for the wing
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Dunkathon
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Any way we can nab Gerald Green from the Suns. He was playing great last year and seems to have finally started to figure it out. He can shoot it off the catch and dribble and is great for transition and lob plays. His d is getting better and with all of the tools he has, Doc can make him the defensive shooting threat we need for the wing
There's no way the Suns give up on Green. Besides,....

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Agent0
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I would only agree to this deal if you can get Pau Gasol to start at the 5. His value is cheap right now. But like I have been saying, Doc loves DJ. Look at what he did to his confidence and game. You find me another center that runs the floor, plays D and is just as athletic as DJ and ill say trade DJ in a sec. But there isn't one.
I just said, there are other C's....

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http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/brooklyn-nets/post/_/id/19226/nets-gi ve-ivan-johnson-a-look Looks like Ivan Johnson's coming in for a workout. So what's next? "I got a Cleveland workout, Spurs workout, Pacers, Clippers and there's another team in there, I forgot," he said.
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I want us to get younger, upcoming players, not more, old farts, on our roster, PERIOD!

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I don't see the point in Gerald Green, JJ, Jamal, Previous Nick Young, all same type of players. We just need 2 players. A starting SF and a Back-up Big. Again I think it's a horrible mistake trying to "Shake things up" too much on an already contending team, which realistically with even reffing would be in a WCF. We have to account for team chemistry. DJ, Blake, CP3, Etc... All have a certain chemistry together already, taking someone who "might" fit in is a huge....

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I do t think Gerald Green would want to play for doc again. I do t think the Suns are going to trade him either. I'm glad to hear Ivan is working out with us, hopefully he takes the min. ....

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I don't see the point in Gerald Green, JJ, Jamal, Previous Nick Young, all same type of players. We just need 2 players. A starting SF and a Back-up Big. Again I think it's a horrible mistake trying to "Shake things up" too much on an already contending team, which realistically with even reffing would be in a WCF. We have to account for team chemistry. DJ, Blake, CP3, Etc... All have a certain chemistry together already, taking someone who "might" fit in is a huge....

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-On TMZ they reported that during Carmelo's Birthday chris paul called him saying we have a new owner, come and sign with the clippers. That would be killer for us Essentially he can play the same role that paul pierce played on the celtics. -With collison more likely to opt out of his deal, I think ramon session would be a good back up for chris paul ....

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w/o knowing much about his personality/personal life, would take Ivan Johnson in a second. other bigs I would look at would be Kaman and Jason Smith. a guy I might take a flyer on would be Charlie Villanueva, if Doc thought he could get something out of him, and he came in at bottom dollar. if he could play any sf that would be an added bonus. would not trade DJ, no way. he is our EJ/Magic....

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If Melo is really willing to come play here I say trade everyone not named Blake, Paul, and Jordan clear the whole bench if you have to in a sign and trade to get him to come play here. Reddick, Barnes, Dudley, and Jamaal make around 20 mil give or take all together! Trade 'em all for Melo and salaries match. If DJ has to be part of the deal then screw that cause we need the defense he provides.....

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I think the trade actually works if we were to give up all those pieces. I'm conflicted, because as much as I love all those players: Boneyard, JCrossover, JJ, we need a wing that can score in crunchtime in the POs. Blake can't cause they pack against him with physical doubles, (we know how mucked up it gets in the paint in PO crunchtime) and CP3 can't score cause he's got to break his man down. That's why I think....

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We don't win championships by breaking up the chemistry and core of the team. Example: The Spurs.....You keep your core unit in tact but make just very small minor changes. DJ, JJ, Jamal, Barnes all need to stay. The minor other changes will take care of themselves. Like for example, if Collison, Granger, and Big Baby want more money to play somewhere else, then that is a change we can be willing to accept. They can easily be replaced. Defense....

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ClipperKyle32
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What about a Kaman and Brand back up bigs? LoL! Its possible

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Are you guys seriously saying you would not trade DJ in order to get LeBron? This is just hilarious! Smile Smile Smile ....

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LOL. This dude isn't even a Top 8 PG in the NBA. Cavs keep doin' Cavs thing. ....

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We don't win championships by breaking up the chemistry and core of the team. Example: The Spurs.....You keep your core unit in tact but make just very small minor changes. DJ, JJ, Jamal, Barnes all need to stay. The minor other changes will take care of themselves. Like for example, if Collison, Granger, and Big Baby want more money to play somewhere else, then that is a change we can be willing to accept. They can easily be replaced. Defense....

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LOL. This dude isn't even a Top 8 PG in the NBA. Cavs keep doin' Cavs thing.
wow. he's going to be paid more than westbrook. he's worth 12mil tops. ....

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His max is higher because he was the 1st pick while Westbrook was the 4th. People read max contract and think it's just this one figure, but the max differs from player to player. Westbrook got the max contract he was allotted based on his draft position and previous salary. A bit unlucky for Cleveland, based on draft production, All-Star status, etc, this is Kyrie's max. In the end, the extra money he's making won't be a limiting factor for them....

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Barnes is not part of the "core". The guys the Spurs committed to were Duncan, Ginobioi and Parker. Remember how Pop loved George Hill and was giving him a ton of minutes? What happened when he found out he could trade Hill and improve his team? He traded him. DJ is a core player, I agree. You don't trade DJ unless you're bringing back another core player who you believe makes you better or is a good fit and if you....

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You overvalue those guys. "Only way I get rid of Jamal is if I get Carmelo or Lebron" huh? To each his own. I'd get rid of my 34 year old isolation scoring SG who to be fair, does it well and can shoot spot up also, but doesn't create for others or defend consistently enough, and did I mention he's 34? Yea, is get rid of him for a nice long wing defender like Danny Green. Actually there are probably....

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Cleveland has two options, offer him the max, don't offer him the max and have someone else do it, or trade him. There's no middle option where they re-sign him without a max contract. Players have agents, so good luck trying to combat the argument of career 21/4/6 player who is a two time All-Star at 21 years old.
If only Brooklyn took either of the last two options on Williams. Just because a player can get a max contract....

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If only Brooklyn took either of the last two options on Williams. Just because a player can get a max contract from another team doesn't mean you have to open up the wallet, especially for a player who has a bad attitude, can't play a lick of defense and has had reports saying he wants to leave Cleveland. 4 years $18+mil a year for a player who so far in 3 seasons in the NBA has won 78 games and has....

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You overvalue those guys. "Only way I get rid of Jamal is if I get Carmelo or Lebron" huh? To each his own. I'd get rid of my 34 year old isolation scoring SG who to be fair, does it well and can shoot spot up also, but doesn't create for others or defend consistently enough, and did I mention he's 34? Yea, is get rid of him for a nice long wing defender like Danny Green. Actually there are probably....

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Did you just put Aaron Afflalo, Demar Derozen, Wilson Chandler, Chandler Parsons, and whoever else you said in the same playing category as Jamal Crawford? Yea....maybe you need to stop smoking what your smoking. You clearly don't know the difference between a role player and an All-Star. J-crossover weather you believe it, want to except it or not, is an All-star who can clearly be a starter on any NBA team. But embraces the role of a player....

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Are you guys seriously saying you would not trade DJ in order to get LeBron? This is just hilarious! Smile Smile Smile
Why break up a good thing? Who'd you go get at center? Yes having the combination of LeBron and Blake would be monstrous. I'd rather keep DJ and Blake and allow them to continue to develop on their own. There's really no other front court combination that beats DJ and Blake. Let a team grow and build confidence....

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Why break up a good thing? Who'd you go get at center? Yes having the combination of LeBron and Blake would be monstrous. I'd rather keep DJ and Blake and allow them to continue to develop on their own. There's really no other front court combination that beats DJ and Blake. Let a team grow and build confidence together. Don't buy the team. "BUILT vs BOUGHT"
Heat just "BOUGHT" 4 straight Finals appearances and 2 championships pending a 3rd... ....

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Jamal's a great player who has some of the best handles in the league. That being said, I would trade him in a heartbeat for a better small forward (like any number of what Agent0 just mentioned). Jamal has never been an all star, while Derozen actually got selected this year. When Jamal's hot, he's something to behold. When he's cold though, he hurts the team because he refuses to share the ball. His "meh"....

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