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However, somebody who may - and is pretty much a like-for-like swap - is Jerryd Bayless. Could be worth Doc's while to reach out to him.
I like Bayless. The dude has been a Clipper Killer. Sneaky Athletic, Good Shooter. He reminds me of a Patty Mills almost. I just want to know how he is defensively. I looked and compared his and Collisons stats and Collison is better in every way. ....

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I like Bayless. The dude has been a Clipper Killer. Sneaky Athletic, Good Shooter. He reminds me of a Patty Mills almost. I just want to know how he is defensively. I looked and compared his and Collisons stats and Collison is better in every way.
He's been on a few bad teams, but I'm willing to bet he'd thrive in our offensive system, particularly alongside Barnes and Redick - if we manage to get a starting SF and a....

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I wonder what kind of money Rudy Gay will command if he opts out of his contract. Maybe he wants to win now. $20mil for Rudy Gay = Awful. $6mil for Rudy Gay = Really good. He's a terrible 1 or 2 option on a team, but he's a pretty good 3 or 4 option on a championship team. He's probably going to opt into his final year of $20 mil, but I'd keep my eye I'm him if we don't get Deng....

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I want Melo on this team. He'd be a great fit. He is a great rebounder, finisher, shot maker. Yet the good teams keep getting better while we sit here and try to sign Paul Pierce for the Min and hope that improves us. We need a make a move for Melo. Melo is in a tough spot. Either LeBron or Chris? Both Players are willing passers? Then the next step older Wade or younger Blake Griffin. Bosh or....

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With cooperation from their stars and role players Udonis Haslem and Chris Andersen, who also possess player options for next season, the Heat could open up in excess of $50 million in cap space this summer and have the most financial flexibility in the league. The only Heat player locked into place for next season is Norris Cole at a salary of $2 million, though Riley will have to contend with a handful of cap holds for pending free agents....

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Melo is a great individual player don't get me wrong, but he's not what we need for our TEAM. I hope he goes to the Heat. Their chemistry will be instantly ruined. ....

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But they have cap holds on LBJ, Bosh and Wade. If they renounce their rights to sign 'melo, they'd have to sign him and whoever they renounce under the cap. If the players are willing to take that huge a pay cut, it will certainly buy Miami another chip, but it will change the landscape of the league for a long, long time. Get paid or win... them's your choices. ....

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But they have cap holds on LBJ, Bosh and Wade. If they renounce their rights to sign 'melo, they'd have to sign him and whoever they renounce under the cap. If the players are willing to take that huge a pay cut, it will certainly buy Miami another chip, but it will change the landscape of the league for a long, long time. Get paid or win... them's your choices.
If that does end up being the new NBA landscape then....

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I want Melo on this team. He'd be a great fit. He is a great rebounder, finisher, shot maker. Yet the good teams keep getting better while we sit here and try to sign Paul Pierce for the Min and hope that improves us. We need a make a move for Melo. Melo is in a tough spot. Either LeBron or Chris? Both Players are willing passers? Then the next step older Wade or younger Blake Griffin. Bosh or Deandre....

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If the Heat take Melo, they basically won't have a bench. Besides, Melo's skillset overlaps with Lebron to such an extent the move wouldn't be worth it unless the Heat want a REALLY overpaid spot-up shooter. The Clippers and Heat should both avoid Melo like the plague. I've got no idea what Riley is thinking with Melo, but whatever it is, I like the chance it will ruin the Heat and super teams. The Clips need to focus....

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There are some pretty good players out there that can make this team better. We don't need to go for a home run with every acquisition.
Exactly. I wouldn't mind Ariza either, or Wilson Chandler. ....

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I actually thought Collison did a good job. He was just forced into playing too much off guard because we had no defense at the position. I'd have him back in a heartbeat if he'd play for the same salary, but I doubt he will. However, somebody who may - and is pretty much a like-for-like swap - is Jerryd Bayless. Could be worth Doc's while to reach out to him.
I don't want to replace Collison, but him opting....

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I wonder what kind of money Rudy Gay will command if he opts out of his contract. Maybe he wants to win now. $20mil for Rudy Gay = Awful. $6mil for Rudy Gay = Really good. He's a terrible 1 or 2 option on a team, but he's a pretty good 3 or 4 option on a championship team. He's probably going to opt into his final year of $20 mil, but I'd keep my eye I'm him if we don't get Deng....

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I don't see how the Heat can have Lebron, DWade, Melo, and Chris Bosh on their roster and the Clippers can't fit Melo under the cap. If Melo is willing to play for $10M per season, then the Clippers seem like a better fit for him since there is essentially an opening at SF on this team. ....

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I don't see how the Heat can have Lebron, DWade, Melo, and Chris Bosh on their roster and the Clippers can't fit Melo under the cap. If Melo is willing to play for $10M per season, then the Clippers seem like a better fit for him since there is essentially an opening at SF on this team.
Highly doubt that team happens and it wouldn't even be that good anyway. No way Melo takes a paycut, all he....

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I don't want to replace Collison, but him opting out seems to imply he's gone because we can't really pay more than that amount for a backup PG. Of course I didn't like him in the backcourt with Paul, but Collison himself was fine.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to imply that you're down on DC. I agree with you. It looks like he's going to walk for more money. That said, how would you feel about Bayless stepping into his role if....

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Why can't we be like the spurs? Our talent is comparable. Pop just turns average players into vital talent. Kawhi Leonard is a stud And could not shoot at all when he arrived. Why don't we develop players like that? ....

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Yeah, I wasn't trying to imply that you're down on DC. I agree with you. It looks like he's going to walk for more money. That said, how would you feel about Bayless stepping into his role if we could snag him for the same deal?
I don't have issues with Bayless in the role, but what do you all thing about him if Jamal is kept? There won't be too much of anyone creating for the rest of the bench players....

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Why can't we be like the spurs? Our talent is comparable.
LOL, no it isn't. We had zero backup bigs all year. Jamal and DJ probably wouldn't even play on the Spurs because Manu and Splitter are so much better than them. ....

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Why can't we be like the spurs? Our talent is comparable. Pop just turns average players into vital talent. Kawhi Leonard is a stud And could not shoot at all when he arrived. Why don't we develop players like that?
We should be able to build a team like them, but our talent is inferior, especially when we get out of the mind-set of just thinking of talent as offensive or scoring talent. You need the initial talent to be there....

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LOL, no it isn't. We had zero backup bigs all year. Jamal and DJ probably wouldn't even play on the Spurs because Manu and Splitter are so much better than them.
Jamal would be hard to find minutes on that team, but he isn't a Pop type player, so they wouldn't even sign him. Splitter isn't so much better than DJ, they have different advantages and disadvantages. ....

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Splitter isn't so much better than DJ, they have different advantages and disadvantages.
Splitter is the better defender by far, DJ is overrated based on flashy highlight blocks and athleticism. Honestly, I prefer his offensive game (though ridiculously soft at times) to DJ's dunks-only offense as well. Overall, Splitter is clearly the superior player. ....

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I agree that the spurs scouts are top class. If seriously just hire anyone coming out of that organization. They know what they are doing. Every player they draft I assume will Be a useful playoff player one day. Boris diaw, patty mills, tiago splitter how do they find them?' ....

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And yes I know Boris Diaw was not drafted by them but they resurrected his career.

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Splitter is the better defender by far, DJ is overrated based on flashy highlight blocks and athleticism. Honestly, I prefer his offensive game (though ridiculously soft at times) to DJ's dunks-only offense as well. Overall, Splitter is clearly the superior player.
I agree and I've said this before, though I don't think he's so much better. That's why I didn't dispute him being better, I think he's better and I said it before, but I don't think he's....

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I expect Jquick to say something like "Splitter is better than DJ", but not someone who actually is knowledgeable about basketball such as yourself Agent0. Let's demystify this. Tiago Splitter vs Deandre Jordan Per 36 I'll preface by saying I generally don't accept Per 36 stats because they "assume" the player would continue to play at that level throughout the entire game. Doesn't take into account Law of Diminishing returns. If most bench players could sustain they're bench production the entire....

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Melo in LA? For What? Does He Train At Our Facility in the Offseason? I know a lot of player do. I bet he meets with CP3 and Blake while in LA or at least CP. I know Doc cannot talk to him yet because of tampering. I have a feeling we get Melo. Its the best decision for him and his family. Yes I watch his wife's show LALA's full-court life. The show was showing during the Nuggets trade.....

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Melo in LA? For What? Does He Train At Our Facility in the Offseason? I know a lot of player do. I bet he meets with CP3 and Blake while in LA or at least CP. I know Doc cannot talk to him yet because of tampering. I have a feeling we get Melo. Its the best decision for him and his family. Yes I watch his wife's show LALA's full-court life. The show was showing during the Nuggets trade.....

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I expect Jquick to say something like "Splitter is better than DJ", but not someone who actually is knowledgeable about basketball such as yourself Agent0. Let's demystify this. Tiago Splitter vs Deandre Jordan Per 36 I'll preface by saying I generally don't accept Per 36 stats because they "assume" the player would continue to play at that level throughout the entire game. Doesn't take into account Law of Diminishing returns. If most bench players could sustain they're bench production the entire....

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Silver gave some reassurance to my biggest fear in the Sterling timeline (free agency). http://www.nba.com/2014/news/06/13/clippers-offseason-and-sterling.ap/ index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts ....

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Lol Sign Allen and Pierce. Have Doc as coach. Re-create that 2008 Finals team and win it all lol. I wouldn't mind Pierce though. I woulndt mind Allen if we didn't have JJ. ....

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Bird mans gonna be a free agent.i wouldn't mind him as a backup big

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Bird mans gonna be a free agent.i wouldn't mind him as a backup big
37 years old??? Ehhh I guess. I still want us to sign Elton Brand and him go out as a Clipper. Who Knows ....

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Sefolosha and Livingston are on top of my Clipper wish list. That would add some length and size to our guard rotation. Both are versatile and can play two positions convincingly. Vince Carter would also be a good option in place of Sefolosha. I also would like Jordan Hill too, unless we can trade for Channing Frye. I'd like for us to bring in an Earl Clark to training Camp and see if there is something....

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Sefolosha and Livingston are on top of my Clipper wish list. That would add some length and size to our guard rotation. Both are versatile and can play two positions convincingly. Vince Carter would also be a good option in place of Sefolosha. I also would like Jordan Hill too, unless we can trade for Channing Frye. I'd like for us to bring in an Earl Clark to training Camp and see if there is something....

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Or we might be the suckers and keep him

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Sefolosha and Livingston are on top of my Clipper wish list. That would add some length and size to our guard rotation. Both are versatile and can play two positions convincingly. Vince Carter would also be a good option in place of Sefolosha. I also would like Jordan Hill too, unless we can trade for Channing Frye. I'd like for us to bring in an Earl Clark to training Camp and see if there is something....

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There may be a silver linning to this situation. Supposedly, Dudley is trying to eat healthy to get back to his old form, and if this should happen (which I doubt) we may find a sucker to trade with.
....but is his knee okay? Cause if that's still an issue, then it might be an issue, but if he gets good rest and then stays in good shape, it should be. ....

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Reports are coming in now the Greg Oden was kept out of the last part of the season because of a sever back injury. I still think that the Clips should take a risk on him but put an early termination in his contract. ....

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Sefolosha and Livingston are on top of my Clipper wish list. That would add some length and size to our guard rotation. Both are versatile and can play two positions convincingly. Vince Carter would also be a good option in place of Sefolosha. I also would like Jordan Hill too, unless we can trade for Channing Frye. I'd like for us to bring in an Earl Clark to training Camp and see if there is something....

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I would be willing to do whatever it takes to get Melo based on the sole fact we need him to stay away from Miami if we ever want a chance at a championship. Might have to trade DJ for peanuts just to clear cap space, but I'd rather not have DJ than have DJ and Miami having Melo.
Don't need to trade DJ, already crunched numbers. Just need to dump Dudley and Bullock. Then have Davis and Collison not....

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So we keep Gentry , but we can replace Lue with Frank? I can dig that ....

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Don't need to trade DJ, already crunched numbers. Just need to dump Dudley and Bullock. Then have Davis and Collison not pick up their options. Can then sign Melo to a 30mil 3 year deal, at the end of Melo's projected contract Blake and Chris have player options where the money can then be renegotiated and distributed evenly amongst themselves and possibly DJ. Getting Melo is a huge possibility and there's no reason why we can't make it happen. Like....

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It's not just about clearing $10 mil. You have to clear $10 mil under the cap. That would mean we have to trade DJ, Jamal, Dudley for only draft picks and not re-sign Willie and Davis which puts our salary at $53,872,731 The projected salary cap is $63,200,000 which means we actually have less than $10 a year to give Melo and we wouldn't have DJ, Jamal, Dudley, Green and Davis. The only real way we get Melo is by a sign....

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You're right, didn't realize that. I'm completely against DJ being part of any trade we conduct. Highly doubt Melo would take 5.2 mil a year but with endorsement deals and added exposure with being in LA may out weigh the smaller pay.
I wouldn't want to trade Jordan either but if we are looking at clearing cap for Melo or lebron I wouldn't mind trading him to pistons for drummond, who essentially can fill the same role for cheaper. Possibly....

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Don't need to trade DJ, already crunched numbers. Just need to dump Dudley and Bullock. Then have Davis and Collison not pick up their options. Can then sign Melo to a 30mil 3 year deal, at the end of Melo's projected contract Blake and Chris have player options where the money can then be renegotiated and distributed evenly amongst themselves and possibly DJ. Getting Melo is a huge possibility and there's no reason why we can't make it happen. Like....

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If Clippers are serious about signing Lebron I would trade DJ to PHX for Miles Plumlee who have the cap space.Trade Dudley and our 1st rounder to the 76ers to get him off the books.Trade Barnes and Bullock together to a team with cap space and waive Willie.Then sign Lebron to a Max contract,use our MLE to sign Paul Peirce,and if we have our BAE use it to sign Birdman,Jermaine O'neal,Chris Kaman,or Emeka Okafor.Also sign Toney Douglas and Drew Gooden....

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I wouldn't trade miles for dj.:.why should Phoenix?

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