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tense2
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If you look at where they are in their careers you might be able to say the opposite. They are very similar players. It might depend on what you think their immediate future and next few years look like when determining who is better for us at this point. I think they are close enough, and if one could be had with less hassle than the other then I'd go for that one. If we can sign Sef....

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I think Sef might be leaning towards the backside of his career. I know he's only 29 (I think) but Iman is 23. If you told me they are both perfectly healthy and you can have either one for 3 years for the same price, I'd probably lean towards Iman. Then like I said before, if we trade a 1st pick to only have Iman for one year and be outbid the next. Why not get Sef for....

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All this Melo talk makes me wonder if we should take a look at Beasley. I think it could be worth a look. He was doing ok in Mia. If he could be had on a one year deal for the min. Then we can trade Duds for Livingston. Then try to pry Channing Frye from Phx. CP3/ Livingston JJ/ Jamal/ Reggie Beasley/Barnes/Reggie Blake/ Draft Pick/ Hedo DJ/ Frye/ Draft Pick I wasn't high on him before, but think if he....

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Agent0
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Beasley is really good at somehow getting to convince people that he can be a starter in this league. He can't. The percentages last year were great for him, but he still rounded out as a below average offensive player. Then add that he can't defend an NBA position, and he's a bad defender at SF. Really he's been best at PF because at least he has a more workable offensive advantage there. You need to give up on Beasley and....

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I think Sef might be leaning towards the backside of his career. I know he's only 29 (I think) but Iman is 23. If you told me they are both perfectly healthy and you can have either one for 3 years for the same price, I'd probably lean towards Iman. Then like I said before, if we trade a 1st pick to only have Iman for one year and be outbid the next. Why not get Sef for....

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Dunkathon
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How expensive could Thabo possibly be though? He's got better length, he can guard 3's, he's a more disciplined defender, and 29 is just not that old. Remember that OKC as an offensive system did not fit role players like Thabo while our system (or SA) is much more conducive to better production for guys like that. I just hope SA doesn't decide to go and pick him up, ugh
I could see the Spurs turning Sefolosha into a bench plug....

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clippers32
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Chauncey Billups had to come here cause we had the highest bid and STILL didn't want to play for us...Get your facts straight or call Chauncey personally since you have the inside scoop. lol Also, Butler came here cause Olshey said if he'd sign with us, CP3 would follow...Get your facts staright. OK, CP3 didn't "CHOOSE" the Lakers or Clippers...I'll go with that. But now you seem even more clueless since you used him as example of someone of his stature forcing....

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Hahaha. ...calm down there young Metta. Go take your angry pill and relax. Apparently i see school and education wasn't on your side growing up. You can't read well, but ill let it pass. If you were to read it over like you so likely claim you do and put it in bold black letters then you would understand the base of my point is these players chose to be where they are at. And i used the Kevin Love....

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clippers32
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There you go again with a a bunch of drivel that has no point. My comprehension skills are pretty sharp...Sharp enough to know you make little sense. Sharp enough that you don't know the difference between, "their" and "there". Sharp enough to know that you get so insecure about your facts, that you have to boast about people you know, and playing second rate ball. I'll be the first to say I might be slower than others but I'm....

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ClipperKyle32
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Sterling **** End. FREE AGENCY IS GONNA BE GOOD. CANT WAIT UNTIL OFF SEASON ....

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namzug
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@Agent0, I agree with your Beasley critique. I looked over at the roster I had written and saw JJ and Beasley and almost threw up in my mouth. I'm usually someone who appreciates effort in defense and sometimes think that is all that is missing. As far as Sefolosha vs Shumpert, I was saying that I would take Shump if all variables were the same; but they are not. I think Sefolosha can be had for less for....

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clippers32
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Ok guys..realistically. What are our chances of getting LeBron? And how? I have an idea. But i would like to hear others.... ....

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Agent0
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@Agent0, I agree with your Beasley critique. I looked over at the roster I had written and saw JJ and Beasley and almost threw up in my mouth. I'm usually someone who appreciates effort in defense and sometimes think that is all that is missing. As far as Sefolosha vs Shumpert, I was saying that I would take Shump if all variables were the same; but they are not. I think Sefolosha can be had for less for....

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namzug
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LeBron will cost DJ at the minimum. I'm not really interested in losing all our role players for the sake of having Lebron or Carmelo. I want our team to be built like the Spurs rather than the Heat. I want something that will last and can continue to be built upon. I prefer a trade to get a solid SF, add a good Big with the MLE. Add some defensive players to the wings. ....

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Agent0
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That's a nice balanced roster. Just don't know how to make it happen, lol Probably have to go cheaper on backup PG. ....

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namzug
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Let me dream, lol. I took Livingston out. If I knew how to make it happen I'd probably be a GM. That 3 spot seems so difficult to me. I can see us getting Sefolosha and then sticking him in that 3 spot. I want length and athleticism at both wing spots. I can see us doing a sign and trade for Ariza (probably costing us Reggie or Jamal and Duds for money), and signing Sefolosha. I....

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not popular, and.... prefer to keep Blake and DeAndre together as the core/future of this team.... have little interest in CP3 recruiting his buddy LeBron to make up/compensate for his declining skill set, and to watch him get paid top dollar for his quite possible Dwayne Wade impersonation, talent wise.... and yes, we might well secure a championship or two in the process, and.... still prefer a frontline of Griff, DJ and the King. also would focus....

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ClipperKyle32
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I wouldn't mind Richard Jefferson as maybe a Starting Small Forward Anyone? ....

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Agent0
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Sadly he's dropped off a ton. Even SA didn't want to keep him and that was 3 years ago. Remember they thought he was their solution at SF a couple of years ago, and he pulled a much more expensive Jared Dudley situation on them. Averaged 20/4/3/37.7% 3PT the three years prior, then cam to SA a and dropped to 12/4/2/31.6% 3PT his first year. Despite that, they still re-signed him for $8M and $9M after that season, which perplexed a....

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JQuick32
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No thanks to RJ, he is straight-up garbage and has been for years.

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not popular, and.... prefer to keep Blake and DeAndre together as the core/future of this team.... have little interest in CP3 recruiting his buddy LeBron to make up/compensate for his declining skill set, and to watch him get paid top dollar for his quite possible Dwayne Wade impersonation, talent wise.... and yes, we might well secure a championship or two in the process, and.... still prefer a frontline of Griff, DJ and the King. also would focus....

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Incredible to see so many people not willing to part with DJ in order to get LeBron. Don't you get it - DJ is a competent center at best and LeBron is a superstar player, who can play multiple positions. The center position is outdated and can't win you a championship - look at Houston who had a very championship-ready roster on paper but lacked guys at the two most important positions - PG and SF! ....

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Dunkathon
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Incredible to see so many people not willing to part with DJ in order to get LeBron. Don't you get it - DJ is a competent center at best and LeBron is a superstar player, who can play multiple positions. The center position is outdated and can't win you a championship - look at Houston who had a very championship-ready roster on paper but lacked guys at the two most important positions - PG and SF!
I would heavily disagree....

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dom1
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Welp for those Shaun Livingston lovers looks like he might get a starting job with the Kings if the Kings don't make a deal with the Celtics to trade their 8th pick for Rondo. Shaun Livingston - G - Nets The Sacramento Kings are reportedly interested in signing unrestricted free agent Shaun Livingston as their starting point guard. With restricted free agent Isaiah Thomas' future in Sacramento still undecided, the 28-year-old Livingston could serve as the Kings' Plan B if Thomas receives an....

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realbull17
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Pelicans are shopping Austin Rivers. Maybe LAC???

ClipperKyle32
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Pelicans are shopping Austin Rivers. Maybe LAC???
Yea Brian Winhordst said that Austin's Dad - our coach and president - has a trade exception. I just do not think Doc wants to coach his son ....

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Incredible to see so many people not willing to part with DJ in order to get LeBron. Don't you get it - DJ is a competent center at best and LeBron is a superstar player, who can play multiple positions. The center position is outdated and can't win you a championship - look at Houston who had a very championship-ready roster on paper but lacked guys at the two most important positions - PG and SF!
I am willing to....

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ToadVine
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Yea Brian Winhordst said that Austin's Dad - our coach and president - has a trade exception. I just do not think Doc wants to coach his son
If Austin could play at all, it would be worth talking about. But he is a bad player. He can't help the Clippers get better, but he can help them get worse if he gets minutes. He's a SG who doesn't shoot well, and not much of a defender either. Passes....

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Agent0
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Welp for those Shaun Livingston lovers looks like he might get a starting job with the Kings if the Kings don't make a deal with the Celtics to trade their 8th pick for Rondo. Shaun Livingston - G - Nets The Sacramento Kings are reportedly interested in signing unrestricted free agent Shaun Livingston as their starting point guard. With restricted free agent Isaiah Thomas' future in Sacramento still undecided, the 28-year-old Livingston could serve as the Kings' Plan B if Thomas receives an....

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Agent0
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Yea Brian Winhordst said that Austin's Dad - our coach and president - has a trade exception. I just do not think Doc wants to coach his son
I remember when he said he never helped his son with basketball or something like that. Clearly he should have because Austin is kinda sucky. ....

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namzug
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I don't think it would be a good situation for Doc if he did coach him as well as be the GM. Even if Austin could actually contribute. The scrutiny would be at an all time high. Doing business with family is always asking for trouble in my opinion. I doubt he brings him here, that would just be asking for trouble. I could see something like that happen if Austin was a filler on some other....

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dom1
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I am willing to part with Blake for Lebron. We need DJ's defense and rebounding. Blake and Lebron together: not enough mid-range jumpshots to go around. Put Lebron together with the league's best rebounder and the league's best point guard. A great outside shooter in Redick, a fiesty veteran Barnes. Add a decent backup big. Now THAT's a recipe for a championship.
I agree and wouldn't object to trading Blake for the best player on the planet. Blake....

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JQuick32
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I agree and wouldn't object to trading Blake for the best player on the planet. Blake in my opinion isn't even the best PF in the game. I think Love and Anthony Davis are better than him. He would be on the 1st thing smoking if that is what it took to get Lebron
If you actually think Love is better than Blake, you need to watch the games instead of the stat sheet. I like Davis, but he is....

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A friend, a Nets fan, sent me a link from a Nets website about Shaun Livingston, and apparently, we might be interested in him after all. "Previously, there have been reports that the Timberwolves might be interested in Livingston. He and GM/coach Flip Saunders have a relationship going back to his time in Washington. Other reports indicated that the Clippers or the Heat could have interest." ....

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tense2
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I remember when he said he never helped his son with basketball or something like that. Clearly he should have because Austin is kinda sucky.
Please keep nepotism at arms length, very long arms length...please. ....

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dom1
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If you actually think Love is better than Blake, you need to watch the games instead of the stat sheet. I like Davis, but he is getting too hyped up too soon, much like Blake in his rookie season. It's to the point where he's going to be unfairly hated if he's not prime KG/Duncan immediately this year.
Oh trust me i do and i still think both are better than Blake. Blake with his athleticism should average....

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namzug
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I don't think Love is better. I think it's closer than I like between Davis and Blake. Blake is a more dynamic offensive player in my opinion, where Davis is better defensively. Love is black whole on defense in my opinion. He will give up almost as many points as he makes up for. ....

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Agent0
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The poorness of Love's defense is overstated, just like a Zach Randolph, you put the right team around Love and his defense is fine with the team. Putting him next to Pekovic makes his defense look worse because Pekovic is not a defensive big man. Put him next to DJ, Bogut, M.Gasol etc, and he can fit into a good defensive system. Interestingly, Davis while having great defensive potential is actually not yet a high impact defender. He's a great shot....

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I feel that Love is a terrible defender by choice. I've seen him turn around and start boxing out way before the shot goes up for the sake of getting in good rebounding position instead of putting a hand up. I know what you are saying in terms of rooting for our guy, but I've never been the biggest fan. Aldridge I feel is better than Love. With all that said it's not the biggest gap....

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1st, I hope we sign Patrick Young. I thought he would have been an early second round pick but he went undrafted surprisingly. Tbh, I would have liked using our 28th pick on him anyways over Wilcox. 2nd, I hope we get rid of Jamal, Dudley, and some other players to free up some cap space to sign Luol Deng. This would make me grade our offseason from an F to a B. ....

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@RealGM: Martell Webster To Miss 3-5 Months After Back Surgery -- http://t.co/DXOwOlqMqR Ariza a FA! Only SF they have is Otto Porter. I wonder if they would consider a sign and trade with Barnes or Dudley for Ariza. Maybe both to give them SF depth ....

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@RealGM: Martell Webster To Miss 3-5 Months After Back Surgery -- http://t.co/DXOwOlqMqR Ariza a FA! Only SF they have is Otto Porter. I wonder if they would consider a sign and trade with Barnes or Dudley for Ariza. Maybe both to give them SF depth
I think Cleveland will be more willing to cooperate with a S&T. I also think Deng is just a better fit, he's been more consistent throughout his career and he's only 2 months older and already worked....

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Clips & Wizards are looking at Khem Birch

namzug
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We need a big man, and someone who could stretch the floor; why not Byron Mullens he just opted out; LMAO (I'm just kidding don't kill me guys) ....

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ClipperKyle32
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I think Cleveland will be more willing to cooperate with a S&T. I also think Deng is just a better fit, he's been more consistent throughout his career and he's only 2 months older and already worked in a defensive system similar to Doc's. Both aren't great 3PT shooters despite Ariza's aberration last year. Deng is a better defender and that's what we need IMO.
Maybe. I like Deng over Ariza. Deng is that championship type player we need. Very long and....

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I know Mario Chalmers sucked in the finals but he's a UFA, his stock/price will be down, & he should have a huge chip on his shoulder... If Collison leaves or wants more than the BAE, I'd try to give Mario the BAE. (assuming better PG's like Livingston get better deals elsewhere) ....

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I know Mario Chalmers sucked in the finals but he's a UFA, his stock/price will be down, & he should have a huge chip on his shoulder... If Collison leaves or wants more than the BAE, I'd try to give Mario the BAE. (assuming better PG's like Livingston get better deals elsewhere)
Do you really think that mario, who's been starting for two years on a championship team is going to want to sign as a back up somewhere? Maybe....

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ClipsGForce
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I know Mario Chalmers sucked in the finals but he's a UFA, his stock/price will be down, & he should have a huge chip on his shoulder... If Collison leaves or wants more than the BAE, I'd try to give Mario the BAE. (assuming better PG's like Livingston get better deals elsewhere)
Please.... if he can't help Lebron, what you think he can help us. ....

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Please.... if he can't help Lebron, what you think he can help us.
We would have a PG who started in 4 straight finals runs coming off our bench... how entitled can we really be? ....

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