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mashian3
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Post subject: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on TopBuzz?
 Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 05:40 AM PST
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I am reading mixed reviews on this trade and I don't understand why.
Marcus Camby and Baron Davis are a much better duo than Maggette & Brand. Does anyone understand that having a solid PG like Baron Davis is such a huge upgrade than we had last year. And yeah, so what if we lost Brand....A duo of Kaman and Camby will be the best defensive front court in the NBA. I love this move. Camby not only plays defense, but he also rebounds, he can shoot the ball, and he can dunk on the opposite end of an alley-oop.
I love this move and think Kaman/Camby will be the new twin towers. We just need a nice shooter for some depth. I like our squad right now. |
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Post subject: RE: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on TopBuzz?
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 05:53 AM PST
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Yes. I like the trade too. I think Kaman and Marcus can play together.
The next goal is upgrade our bench. The Thornton's backup should be the main target because I can't see any player who could come off the bench for the SF position.
Marcus Williams is only showing in this summerleague that we can't rely on him. |
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Post subject: RE: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on TopBuzz?
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 05:57 AM PST
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How does our roster look right now?
PG: Davis/Knight
SG: Mobley/Gordon
SF: Thornton/Thomas
PF: Camby/Powell
C: Kaman/Jordan
Can't Tim Thomas come off the bench for Thornton? I really think that his 3PT% is going to sky rocket with Davis running the point. Powell can back up Camby at PF, Jordan for Kaman. I think they need to re-sign Q Ross for defensive purposes, get a 3rd PG for real cheap, and a decent 3pt shooter. |
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Post subject: RE: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on TopBuzz?
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 05:59 AM PST
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| They also have Mike Taylor...so that can be their 3rd PG. So I think resigning Q Ross and picking up a 3pt shooter is a must. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on TopBu
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 06:02 AM PST
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mashian3 wrote:
They also have Mike Taylor...so that can be their 3rd PG. So I think resigning Q Ross and picking up a 3pt shooter is a must.
Q isn't a SF. I insist that we haven't got any backup for Thornton. This is reallly a must. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on T
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 06:06 AM PST
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| I wasn't implying that Q would be a SF. I was saying Tim Thomas would be a good fit as SF in a Baron Davis type offense |
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Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 07:37 AM PST
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| Q could play SF but I would rather if he had to. Didn't he when Corey was out? But our bench is offensively challenged and we don't need another non-scorer. We can get scorers for near the same $$ Gomes had been touted widely here |
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Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 07:40 AM PST
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| change that to Q can play SF if he had to but I'd rather not have him |
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Post subject: Re: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on TopBuzz?
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 01:27 PM PST
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mashian3 wrote:
I am reading mixed reviews on this trade and I don't understand why.
Marcus Camby and Baron Davis are a much better duo than Maggette & Brand. Does anyone understand that having a solid PG like Baron Davis is such a huge upgrade than we had last year. And yeah, so what if we lost Brand....A duo of Kaman and Camby will be the best defensive front court in the NBA. I love this move. Camby not only plays defense, but he also rebounds, he can shoot the ball, and he can dunk on the opposite end of an alley-oop.
I love this move and think Kaman/Camby will be the new twin towers. We just need a nice shooter for some depth. I like our squad right now.
New twin towers? Lol. Sorry I think there's a Bynum-Gasol tower in the other locker room that will dominate next year... |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on TopBu
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 01:31 PM PST
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Come on Gasol-Bynum???????
With all of respect. i love Pau Gasol BUT he didnt show nothing in the FINALS!!!!!! |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on TopBu
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 01:32 PM PST
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| yea, their twin towers is better, but not by much...kaman is better defense than gasol...but yea, we need another RFA to solidify the team...if we can snatch Vujacic away from the lakers, then it would help a ton in terms of balancing our team vs. theirs.... |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on T
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 01:32 PM PST
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Clipper_FaN wrote:
Come on Gasol-Bynum???????
With all of respect. i love Pau Gasol BUT he didnt show nothing in the FINALS!!!!!!
Couldn't agree with you more. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on TopBu
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 01:32 PM PST
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and also everyone is saying that the Blazers, Lakers and Hornets are gonna be contenders nex year
Trust me one of those teams wont be even in the top 4 |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on T
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 01:32 PM PST
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Clipper_FaN wrote:
Come on Gasol-Bynum???????
With all of respect. i love Pau Gasol BUT he didnt show nothing in the FINALS!!!!!!
It was his first finals appearance. He was playing out of position (his natural position is PF). He couldn't take the shots that he took. GARNETT, the defensive player of the year, was guarding him. If Bynum was there, Gasol would be able to go back to his 15 foot shots instead of trying to man up downlow with the toughest centers, something that he isn't. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Why is this trade getting mixed review here
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 01:39 PM PST
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| In better words he was intimidated by KG! |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Why is this trade getting mixed review here
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 02:05 PM PST
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This is simple:
Kaman > Bynum (the kid has yet to put two good months together)
Camby = Gasol. This is generous to Gasol. Pau better O, but Camby better D by a mile. Playing head to head, Camby will negate Gasol and get more boards. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Why is this trade getting mixed review here
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 02:07 PM PST
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i would think more along:
Kaman = Bynum....and Gasol > Camby....but we very close.... |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Why is this trade getting mixed review here
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 02:52 PM PST
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Kaman>Bynum!
Gasol>Camby! |
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Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 03:52 PM PST
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According to the Rocky Mountain News website, 82% of the fans don't like the trade. That's a good sign for us.
Most of their posts say "Camby was a pillar or the community" or "Would rather have dumped K-Mart or Nene". A few even would rather have seen Melo traded!
They liked Camby, so I think we will as well. |
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Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 04:12 PM PST
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I think alot of people here wanted J. Smith instead of Camby and may have had a bit of a let down in acquiring Camby instead. Camby, when healthy is definitely a force when it comes to rebounding and defense. If he and Kaman can both stay healthy for the major part of the year we will outrebound just about anybody. With J. Smith in the lineup that probably wouldn't have been the case. The 3 point looks will definitely open up with the front court tandem we now have. Thomas, Mobley, Davis, Gordon will all get open looks at 3's in Dunleavy's system. We probably could use one more shooter but with only 2 mil left under the cap its gonna have to be either a really young or old player thats willing to take the minimum salary.
I also think our front court is better then the Lakers. Let me tell you why. Bynum is younger and has less experience while Gasol who has shown he can be (really)soft at times. Bynum has to comeback from his injury. It's unknown how this will effect his confidence. He had just started playing well and now he has to start over so to speak. Kaman and Camby are both somewhat established at this point. Can't say the same for Bynum and the Lakers. The only thing that makes the Lakers better then the Clippers is they have Kobe. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on T
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 04:36 PM PST
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Clipper_FaN wrote:
Come on Gasol-Bynum???????
With all of respect. i love Pau Gasol BUT he didnt show nothing in the FINALS!!!!!!
Don't mean to be a hater here, but at least Gasol was IN the Finals which is more that you can say for Kaman or Camby. You can't really gain experience unless you get experience.
That said, I do like the acquisition of Camby because that seemed to be the only option outside of Zach Randolph. I'd much rather have Camby over Randolph because of his defense and lack of years on his contract. This also gives the Clippers cap space in the precious 2010 off-season. Whether having Baron and Camby is better than Brand and Maggette is moot. The latter were leaving anyway so I'd say the Clips are fortunate to get guys like Baron Davis and Marcus Camby to pick up the next two seasons.
I also feel like Mobley and Tim Thomas are due for career years as they have expiring contracts. If ever they would be motivate, it would be this season. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on T
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 04:55 PM PST
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slestack11 wrote:
Don't mean to be a hater here, but at least Gasol was IN the Finals which is more that you can say for Kaman or Camby. You can't really gain experience unless you get experience.
Camby has 60 playoff games under his belt. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Why is this trade getting mixed review here on T
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 05:17 PM PST
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clipps04 wrote:
slestack11 wrote:
Don't mean to be a hater here, but at least Gasol was IN the Finals which is more that you can say for Kaman or Camby. You can't really gain experience unless you get experience.
Camby has 60 playoff games under his belt.
And Gasol was 0-12 in the post-season with the Grizzlies. Kaman is 7-5 in his post-season appearences. |
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MrB
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Why is this trade getting mixed review here
Posted: Jul 16, 2008 - 05:29 PM PST
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