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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: is this possible smith
Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 12:45 PM PST
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| And, it is forbidden to mention Kwame Brown's name on this site. Forbidden. Forboden. Nada. Don't go there. Never again. On the Lakers TopBuzz website he was voted the worst Laker player of all times. He was booed by laker fans almost for an entire game one night, every time he even touched the ball. There is a reason the Griz did not play him or resign him after being traded there by the Lakers. So don't even start with this. He has the worst hands in the history of the NBA. And he has no upside. He is not ever going to get any better. So, if you want to kill your offense, pass the ball to Kwame. He will lose it, fumble it, dribble it off his foot, or eat it. This has no place in our new run and gun, uptempo offense. So if anybody mentions his name again, you will be banned. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: is this possible smith
Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 12:47 PM PST
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JamFan wrote:
And, it is forbidden to mention Kwame Brown's name on this site. Forbidden. Forboden. Nada. Don't go there. Never again. On the Lakers TopBuzz website he was voted the worst Laker player of all times. He was booed by laker fans almost for an entire game one night, every time he even touched the ball. There is a reason the Griz did not play him or resign him after being traded there by the Lakers. So don't even start with this. He has the worst hands in the history of the NBA. And he has no upside. He is not ever going to get any better. So, if you want to kill your offense, pass the ball to Kwame. He will lose it, fumble it, dribble it off his foot, or eat it. This has no place in our new run and gun, uptempo offense. So if anybody mentions his name again, you will be banned.
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: is this possible smith
Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 12:58 PM PST
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JamFan wrote:
And, it is forbidden to mention Kwame Brown's name on this site. Forbidden. Forboden. Nada. Don't go there. Never again. On the Lakers TopBuzz website he was voted the worst Laker player of all times. He was booed by laker fans almost for an entire game one night, every time he even touched the ball. There is a reason the Griz did not play him or resign him after being traded there by the Lakers. So don't even start with this. He has the worst hands in the history of the NBA. And he has no upside. He is not ever going to get any better. So, if you want to kill your offense, pass the ball to Kwame. He will lose it, fumble it, dribble it off his foot, or eat it. This has no place in our new run and gun, uptempo offense. So if anybody mentions his name again, you will be banned.
Again i think your missing the point. The hawks have been working him out looking for a new center. Why are they the only team to not have any discussions with JS. Not trying to stir pots just bring up a point. There are people who dont believe a sign and trade is possible. If he can get workouts anything is possible. I dont even know why people are thinking i want him on the clippers.His name is in reference due to the situation. Would the hawks prefer him or camby running center? If front office even thought about putting him on this team i would go to sterlings house and picket. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: is this possible smith
Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 02:27 PM PST
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| Whew, I feel better now. I thought that maybe somebody actually wanted that player whose name we won't mention to be a Clipper. The Hawks may want him as a back up center since he is not going to start for anybody. In fact he will probably get only the vets minimum at this point and feel lucky to even have a job. On the hand, Camby could play center or PF for the Hawks. So, if Josh threatens them with a trade me or I will only sign a one year deal and then become unrestricted next summer demand, the Hawks may go for it instead of losing him and getting nothing in return. And Camby isn't over priceed for the level of play and contribution he gives. So, the Clips are in a good spot as well either way. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: is this possible smith
Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 02:30 PM PST
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| The point i was trying to make. Im not the only one who smells something fishy by the clips. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: is this possible smith
Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 03:01 PM PST
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Miquel wrote:
I prefer to keep Camby instead of making experiments with Josh Smith playing as PF in the West. Furthermore we could be stronger for the 2010 free agency to land a player like Bosh...
Josh Smith means less minutes for Thornton, overpay a player (more than 10 mil dollars) who is still unmature, who still hasn't got a proven shot, to do an experiment playing him as a PF and give us less flexibility for the future operations...
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: is this possible smi
Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 03:41 PM PST
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JamFan wrote:
Whew, I feel better now. I thought that maybe somebody actually wanted that player whose name we won't mention to be a Clipper. The Hawks may want him as a back up center since he is not going to start for anybody. In fact he will probably get only the vets minimum at this point and feel lucky to even have a job. On the hand, Camby could play center or PF for the Hawks. So, if Josh threatens them with a trade me or I will only sign a one year deal and then become unrestricted next summer demand, the Hawks may go for it instead of losing him and getting nothing in return. And Camby isn't over priceed for the level of play and contribution he gives. So, the Clips are in a good spot as well either way.
You don't think Camby would be a starter on most NBA teams? He was on the all-defensive team the last two years including defensive player of the year two years ago. If anything, there's only a small handful of teams that he wouldn't start for. I know he's getting old now, but for some reason, he's been less injury prone in his older age. Maybe he knows how to take care of himself better now.
I like Camby and the 2010 flexibility over Josh Smith. I know Smith is an exciting player, but I'm not sure he's a $12 mil X 5 years kindof guy. Sports Illustrated would be all over how stupid the Clippers are if he didn't work out. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: is this possible
Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 04:46 PM PST
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I like camby over Smith.
Thinking: we are not going to get a perfect line-up (this isn't a video game). Camby can do what we need from a PF: Board and defend. The other four starters can score in different ways.
The line-up is not perfect, it is a little unbalanced, but I think with Smith it would be even more odd and unbalanced. We got thrashed on the boards last year because Kaman was the only guy hitting it (and he did awesome). He needs help and that's what a PF is supposed to do. If you can't get rebs, you can't get out on the break ... in which case we'd be underutilizing Baron's abilities. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: is this poss
Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 04:59 PM PST
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ether wrote:
I like camby over Smith.
Thinking: we are not going to get a perfect line-up (this isn't a video game). Camby can do what we need from a PF: Board and defend. The other four starters can score in different ways.
The line-up is not perfect, it is a little unbalanced, but I think with Smith it would be even more odd and unbalanced. We got thrashed on the boards last year because Kaman was the only guy hitting it (and he did awesome). He needs help and that's what a PF is supposed to do. If you can't get rebs, you can't get out on the break ... in which case we'd be underutilizing Baron's abilities.
Agree dont agree. I am scared of players like Camby. I think josh has the better upside. Players as they get to be his age may start to decline. He will be 35 soon. But we will def be running next year could he keep up. Will the couple of years in denver hurt that when he comes here. He will be forced to score more. Can he. Josh smith is a beast. I think he will actually spread the floor better for kaman and davis. He also came from a run and gun team. He was playing the four when the hawks were the first team to beat the lakers with gasol. His stats for that game 17p 9r 9 as 5 bl 2 st. thats a stat sheet. And with a better team with a true center and shooters he might be better. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: is this poss
Posted: Jul 17, 2008 - 05:05 PM PST
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ether wrote:
I like camby over Smith.
Thinking: we are not going to get a perfect line-up (this isn't a video game). Camby can do what we need from a PF: Board and defend. The other four starters can score in different ways.
The line-up is not perfect, it is a little unbalanced, but I think with Smith it would be even more odd and unbalanced. We got thrashed on the boards last year because Kaman was the only guy hitting it (and he did awesome). He needs help and that's what a PF is supposed to do. If you can't get rebs, you can't get out on the break ... in which case we'd be underutilizing Baron's abilities.
I agree, especially the last part about Baron. Camby is ideally a PF who sticks to the high post. Either Davis or Kaman wil find him because defenses will hover around those two, leaving Camby open. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: is this
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 06:51 AM PST
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| on the freak occurrence that somehow the clips can get smith and keep camby, they would have the #1,#2, and #3 leading shot blockers from last year. the paint would be a freaking dead zone. drive the lane if you want, but rest assured the ball will be thrown back into your face. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: is this
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 11:57 AM PST
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| Even if the Camby experiment doesnt work, they have the flexibility to make changes next year and definitely the year after that. They are renting him for 2 years. If they get J. Smith and it doesn't workout they will have him for four more years probably and then we will be stuck with him. Camby offers less risk and more reward on a quicker timeline. |
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 12:19 PM PST
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MrB wrote:
Even if the Camby experiment doesnt work, they have the flexibility to make changes next year and definitely the year after that. They are renting him for 2 years. If they get J. Smith and it doesn't workout they will have him for four more years probably and then we will be stuck with him. Camby offers less risk and more reward on a quicker timeline.
But you can aslo trade young talent. It could be the system. it could be the coach. Young players have a high threshold. |
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 12:23 PM PST
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| We have so many options its scary you can't help but think our time as champs has come! |
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 03:13 PM PST
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 03:27 PM PST
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If we can trade for Josh Smith at close to 10 million a year, it's almost too great of an opportunity to pass up. It seems like the two biggest gripes about Smith are his attitude and that he's not good enough to guard the elite western PFs. Both are legitimate but...
1) Is his attitude really that bad? It's not like we're talking about Ron Artest here. He's a kid and kid's mature.
2) What "elite" power forwards are we talking about? This is a conference where Shawn Marion played the 4 spot just fine, and Amare Stoudemire was an effective center. Currently the best PFs in the west are Duncan, Gasol, Boozer, and David West. Duncan looked very old this post-season, Gasol was proven to be a sissy, Boozer is a "no show" in clutch situations, and David West's stalky frame could be taken advantage of by a long defender.
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 03:57 PM PST
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sz123456 wrote:
If we can trade for Josh Smith at close to 10 million a year, it's almost too great of an opportunity to pass up. It seems like the two biggest gripes about Smith are his attitude and that he's not good enough to guard the elite western PFs. Both are legitimate but...
1) Is his attitude really that bad? It's not like we're talking about Ron Artest here. He's a kid and kid's mature.
2) What "elite" power forwards are we talking about? This is a conference where Shawn Marion played the 4 spot just fine, and Amare Stoudemire was an effective center. Currently the best PFs in the west are Duncan, Gasol, Boozer, and David West. Duncan looked very old this post-season, Gasol was proven to be a sissy, Boozer is a "no show" in clutch situations, and David West's stalky frame could be taken advantage of by a long defender.
Keep in mind that these guys would have to GUARD Smith. I think Duncan would pull his back within a few minutes.
Really good point. That just never made it out of my mouth. We are going to start running right. Playoff powere fowards
Dirk Nowitzki= perimeter guy not a banger stays away from the post
David West= perimeter guy bangs but not that much upper body
Tim Duncan= Kaman would guard him
Pau Gasol= very soft
Amarie Stodimare= Plays away from the basket now
Carlos Boozer= Where was e when team needed him
Louis scola= Very athletic follows the ball not a real threat on offense
Kenyon Martin= Look at boozer
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 06:21 PM PST
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What Kool-Aid are you drinking?
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: is this possible smith
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 06:41 PM PST
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Camby and Kabuike are solid moves. Sign and Trade for Josh Smith, even better.
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 07:23 PM PST
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| ClipperSteve at Clipsnation says Camby press conference schedualed for Monday. Let the rumors cease. |
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 07:28 PM PST
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| What if we get tricked and we are actually signing shawn kemp and penny hardaway!!!! That would Totally be a suprise and totally friggin suck!!!! haha |
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 07:32 PM PST
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| The Reign Man was given a chance to try out for Dallas some time ago, but he never showed but. Looking at youtube, he was SICK back then. Hardaway had his chance with the Heat, but clearly it's over for Penny. Those Lil' Penny commercials will always live on. |
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