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Post subject: Official Clippers MLE 2008 Q&A - MLE is NOT available!
 Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:13 AM PST
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with Azubuike signed (assuming he is), SG is done (him,Gordon, Mobley)
PG is done (Davis ,Knight, Talyor)
PF/ C (Kaman, Camby,Powell, Jordan, Davis,etc)
SF Thomas, Thornton , ???
Childress and Gomes are said to hoping to get MLE
I think Childress is possible as ATL already has 52 mil plus in payroll and still need to sign Josh Smith
Clips can offer him 5 years and about $35 mil (5.8 mil plus 8% per year with MLE)
Forgot to mention.... Dorrel Wright as a possibilty |
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Post subject: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Childress,Go
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:16 AM PST
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| Azubuike has been said to be able to play SG or SF. He is a bit short for SF but has the skills to handle to position. |
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Post subject: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Childress,Go
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:18 AM PST
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| By the way MINN payroll is 58 mil already, they would match a MLE offer. |
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Post subject: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Childress,Go
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:25 AM PST
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| we for sure have the MLE left? |
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Post subject: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Childress,Go
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:27 AM PST
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| if we land azuibuke we get MLE.....i think. |
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Post subject: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Childress,Go
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:39 AM PST
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| I read that we don't have the MLE this year. I thought we did, but we had to renounce it in order to make room for Davis/Camby. We only had $3M left, so we signed Azubuike to an offer sheet starting at $3M. After that, we're only allowed league minimum offers. |
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Post subject: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Childress,Go
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:41 AM PST
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| sucks. i guess it was worth it for camby/davis |
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Post subject: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Childress,Go
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:42 AM PST
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| YES Clips haver MLE....only teams that get to cap get it... that is why they didnt have it UNTIL they get/got to cap.... So once they are to the CAP they have MLE AND bi-annual exception...... ***** READ THIS....ONCE AND FOR ALL YES CLIPS HAVE MLE and Bi-annual!!!!!! ****** |
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Post subject: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Childress,Go
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:43 AM PST
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Post subject: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Childress,Go
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 02:00 AM PST
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ladodgermaniac
The MLE is for teams who are already over the cap coming into the off-season.
By renouncing Maggette/Brand, we were able to reclaim their cap space, but we also forfeited the MLE and the Bi-Annual. Those are exceptions that teams get if they want to bring in a FA whom they don't have bird rights to PLUS they are over the cap (Tim Thomas was brought in with the MLE when we were over the cap).
If we had kept Maggette and Brand's bird rights, we would have been allowed to re-sign them both, even though it meant going over the cap. The MLE/BAE would have kicked in afterward.
The MLE/BAE is forfeited in order to keep teams from spending up to the cap, and then going over with an exception. Otherwise, what would be the point of exceptions? |
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Post subject: Re: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Childres
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 02:05 AM PST
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journeyman wrote:
ladodgermaniac
The MLE is for teams who are already over the cap coming into the off-season.
By renouncing Maggette/Brand, we were able to reclaim their cap space, but we also forfeited the MLE and the Bi-Annual. Those are exceptions that teams get if they want to bring in a FA whom they don't have bird rights to PLUS they are over the cap (Tim Thomas was brought in with the MLE when we were over the cap).
If we had kept Maggette and Brand's bird rights, we would have been allowed to re-sign them both, even though it meant going over the cap. The MLE/BAE would have kicked in afterward.
The MLE/BAE is forfeited in order to keep teams from spending up to the cap, and then going over with an exception. Otherwise, what would be the point of exceptions?
exactly stop tripping people!...all we have left is vet minimums for ANY signings.... |
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:11 PM PST
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| How much is Eddie House? He can hit 3's and we need that bad and he shouldn't be much $$ |
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:21 PM PST
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| We really need a back up big IMO. Kaman, Camby, and then who is our next PF/C??? |
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:27 PM PST
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| We really need to bring back Chris Wilcox lol... |
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Post subject: Re: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Childres
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:36 PM PST
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journeyman wrote:
ladodgermaniac
The MLE is for teams who are already over the cap coming into the off-season.
By renouncing Maggette/Brand, we were able to reclaim their cap space, but we also forfeited the MLE and the Bi-Annual. Those are exceptions that teams get if they want to bring in a FA whom they don't have bird rights to PLUS they are over the cap (Tim Thomas was brought in with the MLE when we were over the cap).
If we had kept Maggette and Brand's bird rights, we would have been allowed to re-sign them both, even though it meant going over the cap. The MLE/BAE would have kicked in afterward.
The MLE/BAE is forfeited in order to keep teams from spending up to the cap, and then going over with an exception. Otherwise, what would be the point of exceptions?
If I am not mistaken, every team gets the MLE...every year. The teams that are over the limit can only use it on FREE AGENTS. The ones under the cap can use it for their current players looking for an extension.
I posted this not too long ago :
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The NBA salaray cap for the 2008-09 season will be $58.68 million, ESPN.com has learned.
The figure was arrived at after daylong consultations between lawyers for the NBA and the players' union.
The luxury tax threshold will be $71.15 million, and the value of the mid-level exception will be $5.585 million. Over-the-cap teams can only offer the mid-level exception to free agents.
The league's moratorium on trades and free-agent signings expires at midnight on Tuesday, and three teams -- the Golden State Warriors, Philadephia 76ers and Los Angeles Clippers -- had been waiting on the exact cap figure to determine the size of the offers they can make to Elton Brand, who had become the No. 1 free-agent target of all three teams. ESPN.com's Marc Stein reported Tuesday evening that Brand has given a verbal commitment to the 76ers.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3479183
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Post subject: Re: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Childres
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:37 PM PST
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clipper*joe wrote:
journeyman wrote:
ladodgermaniac
The MLE is for teams who are already over the cap coming into the off-season.
By renouncing Maggette/Brand, we were able to reclaim their cap space, but we also forfeited the MLE and the Bi-Annual. Those are exceptions that teams get if they want to bring in a FA whom they don't have bird rights to PLUS they are over the cap (Tim Thomas was brought in with the MLE when we were over the cap).
If we had kept Maggette and Brand's bird rights, we would have been allowed to re-sign them both, even though it meant going over the cap. The MLE/BAE would have kicked in afterward.
The MLE/BAE is forfeited in order to keep teams from spending up to the cap, and then going over with an exception. Otherwise, what would be the point of exceptions?
If I am not mistaken, every team gets the MLE...every year. The teams that are over the limit can only use it on FREE AGENTS. The ones under the cap can use it for their current players looking for an extension.
I posted this not too long ago :
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The NBA salaray cap for the 2008-09 season will be $58.68 million, ESPN.com has learned.
The figure was arrived at after daylong consultations between lawyers for the NBA and the players' union.
The luxury tax threshold will be $71.15 million, and the value of the mid-level exception will be $5.585 million. Over-the-cap teams can only offer the mid-level exception to free agents.
The league's moratorium on trades and free-agent signings expires at midnight on Tuesday, and three teams -- the Golden State Warriors, Philadephia 76ers and Los Angeles Clippers -- had been waiting on the exact cap figure to determine the size of the offers they can make to Elton Brand, who had become the No. 1 free-agent target of all three teams. ESPN.com's Marc Stein reported Tuesday evening that Brand has given a verbal commitment to the 76ers.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3479183
EVERY TEAM GETS AN MLE TO USE ON A PLAYER, BUT I DONT THINK ITS EVERY YEAR. I BELIVE PHOENIX DOESNT HAVE IT BC THEY SIGNED GRANT HILL TO IT. |
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Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:45 PM PST
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this is disappointing news, as I was hoping we could sign another good player with the MLE....but even if we did or didni't have it, I doubt we would've used it, knowing DTS...but he's been good for us lately
only option we have now to improve our roster is to trade mobley/thomas in a sign and trade, and we'll probably have to throw in a 1st rounder....i'd be against trading one of them only, since we probably can't get much in return....but if we package both with their salaries with a pick, we might be able to land something big....J-Smitty for sign n trade....even zach randolph..although i think TT/Cat would be better for us than z-bo... |
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Post subject: Re: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Childres
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:52 PM PST
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KamanOwnsYou wrote:
clipper*joe wrote:
journeyman wrote:
ladodgermaniac
The MLE is for teams who are already over the cap coming into the off-season.
By renouncing Maggette/Brand, we were able to reclaim their cap space, but we also forfeited the MLE and the Bi-Annual. Those are exceptions that teams get if they want to bring in a FA whom they don't have bird rights to PLUS they are over the cap (Tim Thomas was brought in with the MLE when we were over the cap).
If we had kept Maggette and Brand's bird rights, we would have been allowed to re-sign them both, even though it meant going over the cap. The MLE/BAE would have kicked in afterward.
The MLE/BAE is forfeited in order to keep teams from spending up to the cap, and then going over with an exception. Otherwise, what would be the point of exceptions?
If I am not mistaken, every team gets the MLE...every year. The teams that are over the limit can only use it on FREE AGENTS. The ones under the cap can use it for their current players looking for an extension.
I posted this not too long ago :
Quote:
The NBA salaray cap for the 2008-09 season will be $58.68 million, ESPN.com has learned.
The figure was arrived at after daylong consultations between lawyers for the NBA and the players' union.
The luxury tax threshold will be $71.15 million, and the value of the mid-level exception will be $5.585 million. Over-the-cap teams can only offer the mid-level exception to free agents.
The league's moratorium on trades and free-agent signings expires at midnight on Tuesday, and three teams -- the Golden State Warriors, Philadephia 76ers and Los Angeles Clippers -- had been waiting on the exact cap figure to determine the size of the offers they can make to Elton Brand, who had become the No. 1 free-agent target of all three teams. ESPN.com's Marc Stein reported Tuesday evening that Brand has given a verbal commitment to the 76ers.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3479183
EVERY TEAM GETS AN MLE TO USE ON A PLAYER, BUT I DONT THINK ITS EVERY YEAR. I BELIVE PHOENIX DOESNT HAVE IT BC THEY SIGNED GRANT HILL TO IT.
EVERY TEAM GETS IT EVERY YEAR! I don't know what the Suns did but maybe they are using the MLE on HILL every year as written in his contract...I don't know.
Here is an excerpt from the CBA rules:
19. Are there exceptions to the salary cap?
Yes. Teams are not allowed to be over the salary cap, unless they are using one of these exceptions:
LARRY BIRD EXCEPTION
EARLY BIRD EXCEPTION
NON-BIRD EXCEPTION
*MID-LEVEL SALARY EXCEPTION -- This exception allows a team to sign any free agent to a contract equal to the average salary, even if they are over the cap (see question number 24 for the definition of "average salary." Also note that for 2005-06 they used a defined figure of $5 million). This exception may be split and given to multiple players. It may be used for contracts of up to five years in length, and raises are limited to 8% of the salary in the first year of the contract. Signing a player to a multi-year contract does not affect a team's ability to use this exception every year. For example, a team can sign a player to a five-year contract using this exception and still use the exception the following year to sign another player. Also see question number 20 for more information on the availability and use of this exception.
If the player is a restricted free agent with one or two years of service and receives an offer sheet from a new team, the player's prior team may use the Mid-Level exception to match the offer sheet (see question number 36 for restricted free agency).
Here are the actual values of this exception for each season. Note that since this exception is based on the average player salary, the actual value of this exception is not determined until the start of the free agent signing period.
BI-ANNUAL EXCEPTION
ROOKIE EXCEPTION
TRADED PLAYER EXCEPTION
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#1 |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Chil
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 01:59 PM PST
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| ....so basically clippers do have MLE??? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Chil
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 02:07 PM PST
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| RIGHTON. THANKS CLIPPER JOE, I WANNA FIGURE OUT HOW PHOENIX DID IT THEN BC I HEARD THAT THEY DONT HAVE THE FULL EXCEPTION BC OF HILL. HMMMM |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Chil
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 02:12 PM PST
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| the MLE is for teams that start the offseason OVER the cap!....we were not over the cap so we dont have it....the only way we would've been able to keep it was if we resigned maggette and brand without renouncing them either(because we had bird rights on both of them which allows you to go over the cap to sign that player, and once over the cap our MLE would've been all we had left to work with)....once you sign an unrestricted FA with your cap space you lose your MLE(once we signed baron we lost it!)....again ALL WE HAVE LEFT IS VET MINIMUMS! |
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Post subject: Re: RE: If Azubuike puts Clips at CAP, MLE is next..Childres
Posted: Jul 18, 2008 - 02:12 PM PST
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