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    I'm just throwing these out there because I was bored and was playing the the trade machine. I like the idea thats been thrown out about trading Kaman for Hinrich. I would definitely do this if we were able to move Baron. I was thinking up possibilities when I came up with Baron for Prince straight up. I highly doubt Detroit would ever consider this but I love Prince and his D. We could move Al to the bench where he'd still get plenty of touches but he wouldn't have to worry about defending the starting wings of the league. I realize we would be short a center but we would have a willing passer and playmaker in Hinrich, who can also shoot very well. We would also have SF depth which we lack and gain a very good defender in Prince. The salaries match up and we would have better balance on the roster as far as offense/defense. We could then have more options for our draft pick. We could take Rubio to back up or start, griffin to back up Randolph, or a center like Thabeet to back up Camby. Our roster would look like this:

    Hinrich/Taylor/Rubio*
    Gordon/R. Davis/Henderson*
    Prince/Thornton/Novak/DeRozen*
    Randolph/Skinner/Novak/Griffin*
    Camby/DJ/Thabeet*

    *possibly draft picks for each position depending on our draft position


    With that roster, without draft picks we look pretty solid and balanced. Then we wouldn't have such a hole other than center where we would NEED to have a certain player in the draft. It's great to get Griffin or Rubio, but if we fall we could pick for any of the 5 positions and be ok. What do you guys think?
     
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    We may also be a little shallow in the SG position(MLE?) but again, we can replace R. Davis with a low priced FA. Same goes for Skinner (I'm thinking Birdman). I also believe we'll have the MLE next year to get some more bench help if we want to replace anyone. Contracts are similar too so we won't be messing with our Cap by much. Hinrich has basically the same contract as Kaman (~$10M/4 yrs) and Prince is $9.5M/3yrs and Baron is $11.5M/5 yrs but we could get a filler on Detroits end. Again I HIGHLY doubt they'll do it but you never know. Just throwing it out there.
     
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    Not sure if this has been tossed out there yet. How about trading Camby to the Knicks in a sign and trade for David Lee?

    Lee is a energy type of player that we need and can really get out and run and grab boards. The Knicks may not resign him so they can have more cap space in 2010. In the mean time the Knicks get a guy that would help them be more competitive next year.
     
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    cliptastic wrote:
    I'm just throwing these out there because I was bored and was playing the the trade machine. I like the idea thats been thrown out about trading Kaman for Hinrich. I would definitely do this if we were able to move Baron. I was thinking up possibilities when I came up with Baron for Prince straight up. I highly doubt Detroit would ever consider this but I love Prince and his D. We could move Al to the bench where he'd still get plenty of touches but he wouldn't have to worry about defending the starting wings of the league. I realize we would be short a center but we would have a willing passer and playmaker in Hinrich, who can also shoot very well. We would also have SF depth which we lack and gain a very good defender in Prince. The salaries match up and we would have better balance on the roster as far as offense/defense. We could then have more options for our draft pick. We could take Rubio to back up or start, griffin to back up Randolph, or a center like Thabeet to back up Camby. Our roster would look like this:

    Hinrich/Taylor/Rubio*
    Gordon/R. Davis/Henderson*
    Prince/Thornton/Novak/DeRozen*
    Randolph/Skinner/Novak/Griffin*
    Camby/DJ/Thabeet*

    *possibly draft picks for each position depending on our draft position


    With that roster, without draft picks we look pretty solid and balanced. Then we wouldn't have such a hole other than center where we would NEED to have a certain player in the draft. It's great to get Griffin or Rubio, but if we fall we could pick for any of the 5 positions and be ok. What do you guys think?


    i love this. but, we will have to get rid of randolph too, cause we still have too much offense. but, it might be more balanced out since al is moved to the bench. but, then again, we cant even think of anything else uuntil we get rid of dun first.

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    Just another hypothetical situation here but....if we get #1 and draft Griffin, I say we try this - trade Randolph for Prince and Amir Johnson. The salaries will match up and I think the Pistons might do it because they need/want a scoring PF in the paint and they can use the cap from Iverson to get a new SF. A sf replacement will be easier to find than a 20/10 PF. We will then have the MLE to address depth. This is what our lineup would look like:

    Davis/Taylor/Jones
    Gordon/R. Davis/Collins
    Prince/Thornton/Novak
    Camby/Griffin/Johnson
    Kaman/DJ

    Assuming a rejuvenized and motivated Baron next season and good health (and luck) from Camby and Kaman, this team looks great. It doesnt affect chemistry a ton because its only 1 trade with a guy we got during the season. With a backcourt of Prince/Camby/Kaman we definitely improve our D on the starting lineups of the league. With Al as a 6th man leading the bench, the bench has a ton of firepower and youthful energy. If Baron turns it around next season I have no problems keeping him. He is still fully capable, its only when he wants to be though. As you can tell I really want Prince, but with what happened to the Pistons this year I think its possible to get him. We might have to give up a pick with Randolph but if it makes us better why not. Let's stop thinking about the future.
     
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    Again...daydreaming a bit but I think the trade is more viable than the one I proposed before and Griffin just takes some luck. Unfortunately us Clips fans don't see much of that these days...
     
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    Hooch20 wrote:
    Not sure if this has been tossed out there yet. How about trading Camby to the Knicks in a sign and trade for David Lee?

    Lee is a energy type of player that we need and can really get out and run and grab boards. The Knicks may not resign him so they can have more cap space in 2010. In the mean time the Knicks get a guy that would help them be more competitive next year.


    This sounds great if the Knicks would go for it. I read in some article he may be looking for $10M a year which is around what Camby makes but Camby's contract expires in time for the 2010 sweepstakes. I say we do it because no big FA is coming here after whats been going on and basically its as if we gave Camby an extension for the same money but we get a younger player and Camby gets to go back to NY. Add this in with my proposed Randolph Trade and I love it even more.
     
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    when ekker3 said to trade the 3rd pick (if we get it) , i was thinking of Rip Hamilton or a player like rip.( a player in a team that needs to get younger)
     
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    Maybe the Cavs sweep of the Pistons will turn out to help the Clippers. I like the idea of trading Zach if we get Griffin. The David Lee trade would be good if we don't end up with Griffin. I really wouldn't want to trade Camby because of his true professional attitude with the Clippers but the team getting younger is more important.

    Wonder if the Spurs will shake up their roster with their first round exit?
     
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    clippersfan85 wrote:
    Maybe the Cavs sweep of the Pistons will turn out to help the Clippers. I like the idea of trading Zach if we get Griffin. The David Lee trade would be good if we don't end up with Griffin. I really wouldn't want to trade Camby because of his true professional attitude with the Clippers but the team getting younger is more important.

    Wonder if the Spurs will shake up their roster with their first round exit?


    Dont see any shake up that matters to other teams. The big 3 they have wont get traded. Tony Parker was being interviewed last night on TNT after the game and said they would only make a few changes to their role players this offseason since they are still pretty good with a fully healthy team.
     
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    im getting so tired of hearing TRADE BARON crap!!

    who here seriously thinks that Trading the guy who wanted to be here and was successful in everywhere he went but then hit a set play road block named mike dunleavy

    1st off enough with the bad season......UNLIKE ANY OTHER TEAM WE WERE OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS IN 25 games......HE LOST HIS MOTIVATION

    Definition of motivation: see Dallas vs golden state

    2nd

    What some of you are really saying is trade baron davis for Mike Dunleavy..cause THEYYYY cant get along!!! you gotta be kidding me

    especially when our star says in the 1st 15 games that dunleavy needs to 'loosin his grip on the game" but we all know he didnt....

    i mean how far do you think ricky rubio can go when he's getting yelled a play EVERY SINGLE PLAY.....

    imagine this....ricky gets the rebound he's running down the floor.....he see's a lane...gets all happy but waiiiiiiiiiiit!!!!!!! mike dunleavy raises his hands!!! puts it up to his mouth...and sayssssss passs to al!!! 4 box switch ....

    RUBIO TURNS HIS HEAD!!!! and then like in the 08 season the play breaks rubio shoots a contested 3(baron last year) aaaand were back to square 1

    no more trading baron!!
     
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    Another new thread.....you kidding me. f**k man just let it go. Can we cast a vote to ban this. Seriously this is getting ridiculous.

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    i agree 100%Baron is franchise player and this aint a bad thread
     
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    Another new thread.....you kidding me. f**k man just let it go. Can we cast a vote to ban this. Seriously this is getting ridiculous.


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    CLIPPER$ZONE wrote:
    i agree 100%Baron is franchise player and this aint a bad thread

    It's the same damn s**t he posts everywhere else. He now just has has own "special" thread to showcase the same point.

    Did we really need a whole new thread to say Baron is awesome and Dunleavy needs to be fired?

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    CLIPPER$ZONE wrote:
    i agree 100%Baron is franchise player and this aint a bad thread


    thanks man....

    1000% percent our franchise
     
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    nomercy wrote:
    clipps04 wrote:
    Another new thread.....you kidding me. f**k man just let it go. Can we cast a vote to ban this. Seriously this is getting ridiculous.


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    Bro what the hell are you talking about. You made these comments in other threads. You need to feel special? You need a thread that's all yours?

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    clipps04 wrote:
    CLIPPER$ZONE wrote:
    i agree 100%Baron is franchise player and this aint a bad thread

    It's the same damn s**t he posts everywhere else. He now just has has own "special" thread to showcase the same point.

    Did we really need a whole new thread to say Baron is awesome and Dunleavy needs to be fired?



    yes we do cause everyone seems to be on trading baron

    and im new here and have diffrent points in why to keep him

    please just go with number 5ity and get a life and dont lets this bother u so much
     
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    nomercy wrote:
    CLIPPER$ZONE wrote:
    i agree 100%Baron is franchise player and this aint a bad thread


    thanks man....

    1000% percent our franchise

    Yeah that franchise player that is one dimensional. The franchise player we overpaid for. Yeah this guy definitely makes us better. We were screwed until we won the number 1 pick. Baron wasn't taking us anywhere next season. That's not to say he useless but he's limited to how far he can take a team. You play the way the Suns or Warriors play and everyone looks good. Number are inflated like crazy. Why play defense when all you have to do is have more shot attempts than the other team.

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    nomercy wrote:
    clipps04 wrote:
    CLIPPER$ZONE wrote:
    i agree 100%Baron is franchise player and this aint a bad thread

    It's the same damn s**t he posts everywhere else. He now just has has own "special" thread to showcase the same point.

    Did we really need a whole new thread to say Baron is awesome and Dunleavy needs to be fired?



    yes we do cause everyone seems to be on trading baron

    and im new here and have diffrent points in why to keep him

    please just go with number 5ity and get a life and dont lets this bother u so much

    So because you're new you need to make a thread about a point you made in 3 other threads? Believe me you've made yourself know as you've read all the backlash toward you lol.

    Telling me to get a life or ignore this thread....

    "yes we do cause everyone seems to be on trading baron
    and im new here and have diffrent points in why to keep him"


    You're being hypocritical. You can't let go the fact that some people feel we need to trade Baron if the right trade comes along so you make a new thread.

    Take your own advise and to quote you "get a life and dont lets this bother u so much"

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    clipps04 wrote:
    nomercy wrote:
    CLIPPER$ZONE wrote:
    i agree 100%Baron is franchise player and this aint a bad thread


    thanks man....

    1000% percent our franchise

    Yeah that franchise player that is one dimensional. The franchise player we overpaid for. Yeah this guy definitely makes us better. We were screwed until we won the number 1 pick. Baron wasn't taking us anywhere next season. That's not to say he useless but he's limited to how far he can take a team. You play the way the Suns or Warriors play and everyone looks good. Number are inflated like crazy. Why play defense when all you have to do is have more shot attempts than the other team.


    again your forgeting 25 games and the season was over.....

    2nd NO ONE can play with set plays yelling at them EVERY PLAY LITERALLY

    3rd baron is sucsessfull where ever he went...to blame him after last season is just stupid especially when mike dunleavy is running the show

    you dont have to play like the suns and worriers but to yell a play every play is stupid and ridiculous.....

    be like the lakers or spurs or houston orr any other dam team.......have a vision in the way u want things and preform it ....but if u have to turn ur head LITERALLY EVERY TIME

    its not gonna work for anyone
     
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    Look I understand Duns methods of running the offense are a bit overwhelming but if Baron is the player you're making him out to be then shouldn't it not have effected him the way it did. So it's not his fault that 25 games into the season and s**t hit the fan? He and Dun hold the most responsibility for the season we had. He was brought in to be a savior and Dan Dickau and Brevin Knight produced a more solid offense on a nightly basis. I mean he we bad from the beginning. He had his moments but even in those moments he was distributing the ball well but that was it. He couldn't score to save his life (which is what he lives for) and his defense left something to be desired. A franchise player doesn't have a season like that. He's shown he can't lead this team.

    But he's going to be here to start next season so we'll all get to see his second coming. If Blake can't make him a better player something is wrong.

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    clipps04 wrote:
    nomercy wrote:
    clipps04 wrote:
    CLIPPER$ZONE wrote:
    i agree 100%Baron is franchise player and this aint a bad thread

    It's the same damn s**t he posts everywhere else. He now just has has own "special" thread to showcase the same point.

    Did we really need a whole new thread to say Baron is awesome and Dunleavy needs to be fired?



    yes we do cause everyone seems to be on trading baron

    and im new here and have diffrent points in why to keep him

    please just go with number 5ity and get a life and dont lets this bother u so much

    So because you're new you need to make a thread about a point you made in 3 other threads? Believe me you've made yourself know as you've read all the backlash toward you lol.

    Telling me to get a life or ignore this thread....

    "yes we do cause everyone seems to be on trading baron
    and im new here and have diffrent points in why to keep him"


    You're being hypocritical. You can't let go the fact that some people feel we need to trade Baron if the right trade comes along so you make a new thread.

    Take your own advise and to quote you "get a life and dont lets this bother u so much"


    wow seriously man.....get a life

    keeping baron deserves its own thread.....

    im not being hypocritical because if u actually wrote something educational maybe id reply correctly but u just seem to bitch about everything

    lol backlash towards me cause i usually prove EVERYONE WRONG

    and theres only what 5-6 of u....

    man get a life.....
     
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    Look I understand Duns methods of running the offense are a bit overwhelming but if Baron is the player you're making him out to be then shouldn't it not have effected him the way it did. So it's not his fault that 25 games into the season and s**t hit the fan? He and Dun hold the most responsibility for the season we had. He was brought in to be a savior and Dan Dickau and Brevin Knight produced a more solid offense on a nightly basis. I mean he we bad from the beginning. He had his moments but even in those moments he was distributing the ball well but that was it. He couldn't score to save his life (which is what he lives for) and his defense left something to be desired. A franchise player doesn't have a season like that. He's shown he can't lead this team.

    But he's going to be here to start next season so we'll all get to see his second coming. If Blake can't make him a better player something is wrong.



    again if u watched last season it was over in 25 games and motivation was gone for baron....

    he couldnt score to save his life cause ONE MORE TIME.....PLEASE READ


    dunleavy calls a play....80% of the time the play broke.....baron shoots a contested 3........dunleavy fault cause its not a feel offense its a set play offense
     
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    nomercy wrote:
    clipps04 wrote:
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    i agree 100%Baron is franchise player and this aint a bad thread

    It's the same damn s**t he posts everywhere else. He now just has has own "special" thread to showcase the same point.

    Did we really need a whole new thread to say Baron is awesome and Dunleavy needs to be fired?



    yes we do cause everyone seems to be on trading baron

    and im new here and have diffrent points in why to keep him

    please just go with number 5ity and get a life and dont lets this bother u so much

    So because you're new you need to make a thread about a point you made in 3 other threads? Believe me you've made yourself know as you've read all the backlash toward you lol.

    Telling me to get a life or ignore this thread....

    "yes we do cause everyone seems to be on trading baron
    and im new here and have diffrent points in why to keep him"


    You're being hypocritical. You can't let go the fact that some people feel we need to trade Baron if the right trade comes along so you make a new thread.

    Take your own advise and to quote you "get a life and dont lets this bother u so much"


    wow seriously man.....get a life

    keeping baron deserves its own thread.....

    im not being hypocritical because if u actually wrote something educational maybe id reply correctly but u just seem to bitch about everything

    lol backlash towards me cause i usually prove EVERYONE WRONG

    and theres only what 5-6 of u....

    man get a life.....

    You killing me...what are you 5? You bring no argument. You're like f**king Bush. Ignore the subject at hand and make crazy accusations. Even in your other thread you claimed all you wanted were "educated" responses. Someone makes a comment that doesn't agree with you and they're uneducated and need a life....real mature. You're not proving anoyone wrong. You're just too stubburn. There's no grey area with you. Either someone agrees 100% with you are they're wrong.

    "if u actually wrote something educational maybe id reply correctly but u just seem to bitch about everything "

    Reply correctly.....and I'm uneducated. I come at you with my opinions and facts and you come back with I'm stupid, get a life.

    Grow up

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    So because of MD's plays Barons shooting percentage was at 37% from the field and 30% from 3. That had nothing to do with him....It effected no one else but Baron.....Camby shot better from the field than he has in 5 years, +50%. Eric shot 45%. Even Al who some consider a chucker shot 44%.....

    please come back when you actually have proof for you're arguments because you're opinions hold absolutely no value.

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    cj is pretty forgiving but i think there's an IP ban coming for this guy lol...

    ip banned from all topbuzz forums? that would be hillarious
     
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    Read this trade on another forum......I kind of like it but would rather go for a little higher pick if we were trading kaman before the draft.

    Mavs get Kaman
    Blazers get Jason Terry
    Clippers get Steve Blake (Solid backup PG), Travis Outlaw (Solid backup SF), and then one or both of the #22 pick (from dallas) and #24 pick (from portland)

    I kind of like it. Mavs get a really solid center that helps with the scoring more so than Dampier. Portland would need to start Bayless or find another PG, but get a really good scorer for them off the bench. We get what I stated above and get some first rounders than are decent.

    Only problem- we trade 1 player and essentially get back 4 (2 from portland and 2 draft picks) which means we have a pretty full roster.
     
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    sunnydrew3 wrote:
    Read this trade on another forum......I kind of like it but would rather go for a little higher pick if we were trading kaman before the draft.

    Mavs get Kaman
    Blazers get Jason Terry
    Clippers get Steve Blake (Solid backup PG), Travis Outlaw (Solid backup SF), and then one or both of the #22 pick (from dallas) and #24 pick (from portland)

    I kind of like it. Mavs get a really solid center that helps with the scoring more so than Dampier. Portland would need to start Bayless or find another PG, but get a really good scorer for them off the bench. We get what I stated above and get some first rounders than are decent.

    Only problem- we trade 1 player and essentially get back 4 (2 from portland and 2 draft picks) which means we have a pretty full roster.


    I just see Rubio AND Griffin becoming mega-stars if they're on the same team. If we can do ANYTHING to get them both without trading EG, it would be the power grab of a lifetime. Watch some Rubio highlights, i've never seen better lob passes in my life. Put him with a guy who prefers to dunk on every posession, possibly even free-throws... you have a dynamic duo who at any point in time can kick it out to a wide open EG for the three.
     
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    sunnydrew3 wrote:
    Read this trade on another forum......I kind of like it but would rather go for a little higher pick if we were trading kaman before the draft.

    Mavs get Kaman
    Blazers get Jason Terry
    Clippers get Steve Blake (Solid backup PG), Travis Outlaw (Solid backup SF), and then one or both of the #22 pick (from dallas) and #24 pick (from portland)

    I kind of like it. Mavs get a really solid center that helps with the scoring more so than Dampier. Portland would need to start Bayless or find another PG, but get a really good scorer for them off the bench. We get what I stated above and get some first rounders than are decent.

    Only problem- we trade 1 player and essentially get back 4 (2 from portland and 2 draft picks) which means we have a pretty full roster.


    we could draft hansbrough as a backup pf with one of those picks, and we can jsut trade the other one away for some cash.

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    I kind of like it too... We have some players we can dump to accomodate the draft picks... I also like the idea of Blake because we need a prime time PG in the event Baron doesn't get his act together or we can't get ride of him.
     
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    sunnydrew3 wrote:
    Read this trade on another forum......I kind of like it but would rather go for a little higher pick if we were trading kaman before the draft.

    Mavs get Kaman
    Blazers get Jason Terry
    Clippers get Steve Blake (Solid backup PG), Travis Outlaw (Solid backup SF), and then one or both of the #22 pick (from dallas) and #24 pick (from portland)



    I like this actually its beneficial for everyone, but im not sure but I think blake's a free agent this year or at least has a team option which the blazers might not take. But definate upgrade for the bench.
     
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    Playing around with the trade machine, I only found 1 deal we could do this off season without taking bad contracts or getting help. Trading Zach straight up for Jefferson. I say lets do it.

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    sunnydrew3 wrote:
    Read this trade on another forum......I kind of like it but would rather go for a little higher pick if we were trading kaman before the draft.

    Mavs get Kaman
    Blazers get Jason Terry
    Clippers get Steve Blake (Solid backup PG), Travis Outlaw (Solid backup SF), and then one or both of the #22 pick (from dallas) and #24 pick (from portland)



    if kaman is traded we end up with:
    camby at center (who's incredibly injury prone and will miss plenty of games) and a RAW and DEFICIENT DJ as his backup. everyone else on the roster is too small to play the position. there's not too many 7 footers in the NBA to begin with, and kaman happens to be one of them.

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    dream situation (but impossible): shane battier

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    That is very impossible. I can make the trade work, but for what we are giving them they would laugh at us in real life.

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    teamfiend wrote:
    man would chuancy look good in red white and blue


    He brought a championship in Detroit with the same colors Laughing

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    I'd rather do Kaman for Terry, rather then getting Blake/Outlaw

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    tdots wrote:
    I'd rather do Kaman for Terry, rather then getting Blake/Outlaw


    Why's that? Just curious, considering we desperately need a backup SF who can produce.

    Blake on the other hand would be basically trade bait.
     
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    If we trade Kaman to Dallas why not just trade for Josh Howard. He would solve our backup SF role, maybe Thorton and Howard could share the starting SF role depending on the opposing team.
     
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    clippersfan85 wrote:
    If we trade Kaman to Dallas why not just trade for Josh Howard. He would solve our backup SF role, maybe Thorton and Howard could share the starting SF role depending on the opposing team.


    Yea, i agree, Howard is a better prospect now, but we could really use a combo guard to backup Baron and EG, including injury consideration. I still like Kaman a lot, and think he could flourish again playing alongside a player like Griffin. I didn't like the Kaman for Hinrich thought, since I think Kaman is worth more, but I suppose it would be a toss up between him and J. Terry. One trade we might consider is Zach to the Warriors, since I think think they'll be very interested, and they have the contracts to make it work: Sjax, Corey, Crawford, Turiaf. There's no way any other team will take Zach without us taking a contract back. Turiaf would be nice to get for Zach, along with Corey or Crawford.
     
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    CLIPPER$ZONE wrote:
    i agree 100%Baron is franchise player and this aint a bad thread

    then he should have no problem doing whatever is takes to make the franchise better... which means no more ill advised threes a good attitude and oh yeah whats that other thing that separates Baron from the greats outside of the obvious skill level... Hard work
     
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    I would immediately start shopping Baron+Randolph for an enormous expiring contract like Marion or Shaq or something.

    Then offer Camby (although i LOVE his expiring contract) to Memphis for the second pick.

    Rubio
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    Thornton
    Griffin
    Kaman

    I start sweating when i think about that lineup
     
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    clipshow wrote:
    Playing around with the trade machine, I only found 1 deal we could do this off season without taking bad contracts or getting help. Trading Zach straight up for Jefferson. I say lets do it.


    Yeah, I like that deal too. Pushes Thornton to 6th man, where he provides instant offense, and we get a starter who's a better shooter, passer, and has a higher bball IQ. I like it.

    PG - Baron
    SG - Gordon
    C - Camby
    SF - Jefferson
    PF - Griffin

    Bench:

    Thornton/Kaman/Taylor/DJ/Novak/etc.
     
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    Assuming we take Griffin # 1. We probably are going to be able to move Kaman for a fair price. I would love to get back in the first round, trading Kaman for a decent SF/SG would be ideal along with Possibly taking Jrue Holiday with a late lottery pick (10-13). I still hate the fact we have to give up a legit big that griffin would like to play with, but it would shore up alot problems. I really think that jrue is going to be a super talent in the next few years, maybe we get lucky again (Gordon) and he can contribute sooner. Remember we also have the mid level exception next year, that should really help rounding out the team.

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    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=op2lws

    we do the above trade ^^^(the link i just posted). dallas would love to do it for a win now situation, and it helps us get rid of kaman and baron.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=r3r263

    ^^^ and we do this trade to get rid of randolph, and along with darko and marko, we will recieve their second overall pick, and along with zachory, we will include minnys future first round pick.


    with both of these trades, we also get a couple of bigs that woul love to come off the bench in darko and dampier. we would also make room for griffin, and make room for rubio,which we would draft with the 2nd overall pick that we recieved from memphis.

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    clipperstown wrote:
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

    we do the above trade ^^^(the link i just posted). dallas would love to do it for a win now situation, and it helps us get rid of kaman and baron.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

    ^^^ and we do this trade to get rid of randolph, and along with darko and marko, we will recieve their second overall pick, and along with zachory, we will include minnys future first round pick.


    with both of these trades, we also get a couple of bigs that woul love to come off the bench in darko and dampier. we would also make room for griffin, and make room for rubio,which we would draft with the 2nd overall pick that we recieved from memphis.


    Links don't work dude, since the trade checker is a flash object, it wont save your inputs. You're going to have to take a screen-shot or type it out.
     
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    NUMB3RFIFTY wrote:
    clipperstown wrote:
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

    we do the above trade ^^^(the link i just posted). dallas would love to do it for a win now situation, and it helps us get rid of kaman and baron.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

    ^^^ and we do this trade to get rid of randolph, and along with darko and marko, we will recieve their second overall pick, and along with zachory, we will include minnys future first round pick.


    with both of these trades, we also get a couple of bigs that woul love to come off the bench in darko and dampier. we would also make room for griffin, and make room for rubio,which we would draft with the 2nd overall pick that we recieved from memphis.


    Links don't work dude, since the trade checker is a flash object, it wont save your inputs. You're going to have to take a screen-shot or type it out.



    i rthink they should work now, try again and let me know. thx.

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    clipperstown wrote:
    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=op2lws

    we do the above trade ^^^(the link i just posted). dallas would love to do it for a win now situation, and it helps us get rid of kaman and baron.

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... eId=r3r263

    ^^^ and we do this trade to get rid of randolph, and along with darko and marko, we will recieve their second overall pick, and along with zachory, we will include minnys future first round pick.


    with both of these trades, we also get a couple of bigs that woul love to come off the bench in darko and dampier. we would also make room for griffin, and make room for rubio,which we would draft with the 2nd overall pick that we recieved from memphis.



    i think i just fixed the links lol Embarassed

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