Read an interesting trade in a chat today. Dont think I pull the trigger on this trade but it is fairly close to good value if Kaman doesnt return to form.

Mike Miller and #18 for Kaman.

I saw this trade to and it doesn't look to bad. We get a 6th man for next year and have a chance to grab one of the PG's that slips or a SF like Earl Clark. We also gain a ton of cap space for 2010, although I don't think it's enough to toss a max offer at someone. I still think we get more for Kaman though. From reading other chats of various boards it seems like teams really value Kaman more than we think.

If the Wolves really did want Kaman, I'd tell them Kaman and the pick the Wolves owe us for Miller and the 6th pick.

That sounds like a promising trade. It doesn't sound like Kaman is working hard this offseason to return to form, so I say we pull the trigger. Miller would be an improvement at swingman over Sticky. Also, I'm sure we could get a decent PG prospect at #18. Also with Miller we could use the money we would have used to resign Novak for someone else.

Miller and #18 for Kaman seems like a likely deal. I would still rather get Prince from Detroit for Kaman. Then Kaman would be in the east if he decides to improve his game ever.

Read an interesting trade in a chat today. Dont think I pull the trigger on this trade but it is fairly close to good value if Kaman doesnt return to form.

Mike Miller and #18 for Kaman.

I personally prefer Prince too..just don't like this Minn. trade, if it were proposed..

So many Zach trade ideas, but he simply can't be traded, as many have stated. Why would a team take on his $16M salary (in a trade for a draft pick), when they could just go and sign Boozer for that this summer? Or Millsap for half that.

It could work if we take on bad contract(s) in return, but that's really tricky to get back the talent..GSW seems like a good parter for a Zach trade, but their contracts are longer committments, with the exception of Crawford's. I'd prefer Zach for Crawford + filler over Kaman for Hinrich.

The Minny trade would give us an expiring contract and give us a draft pick. We could most likely do better in a Kaman deal.

The team has already stated that Camby ins't going anywhere. We now Ranodolph will be difficult to move. This makes Kaman the guy to go. I'd much rather have Kaman than Camby, but it seems the team is dead set on not moving Camby. Kaman does have a trade kicker that kicks in if he's traded. I'm not really sure how much Kaman's kicker is, but Josh Smith's is about $7 million and teams supposedly would be really hard pressed to sign a player that has a kicker with this economy. The trade kicker has to be paid instantly if a player is traded.

We also do need another PG. Do you really want to go into the season with Mike Taylor as our only backup? Fred Jones will most likely not be back and it would scare the hell out of me to have Taylor be our only option with all of the talent we have. Taylor in no way is ready to run a team.

So many Zach trade ideas, but he simply can't be traded, as many have stated. Why would a team take on his $16M salary (in a trade for a draft pick), when they could just go and sign Boozer for that this summer? Or Millsap for half that.

It could work if we take on bad contract(s) in return, but that's really tricky to get back the similar talent..GSW seems like a good partner for a Zach trade, but their contracts are longer commitments, with the exception of Crawford's. I'd prefer Zach for Crawford + filler over Kaman for Hinrich, since Crawford can play combo guard as well...unfortunately for us, GSW's perfect filler to make the trade work would be Turiaf's $4M, which they wouldn't give up.

i understand this isnt a trade but after a night of thinking about it, it makes perfect sense: the clips should throw 3-4 mil at shannon brown and take him away from the lakers. shannon would be a great backup to baron, and if/when baron gets injured shannon is a much better replacement than taylor. eh?

i understand the lakers will prob take brown but you cant really like taylor more..dude is too small shannon is a swole dude

what part of his game is one dimensional? ive seen him knock down the three consistently and body people up on defense

the clips have plenty of scorers, do they really need more? i keep saying this but no one seems to understand, if the clips ever want to hoist a trophy they need more than this collection of misfit shooters. they need guys like ariza and brown who play defense and get on the floor. thats how champions are made. mike taylor is not that much of a creator either, he shot 41% and 32 from 3, he shot less than 70% from the line. you are vastly overrating him. just remember he was a backup on a 19 win team!

the clips have plenty of scorers, do they really need more? i keep saying this but no one seems to understand, if the clips ever want to hoist a trophy they need more than this collection of misfit shooters. they need guys like ariza and brown who play defense and get on the floor. thats how champions are made. mike taylor is not that much of a creator either, he shot 41% and 32 from 3, he shot less than 70% from the line. you are vastly overrating him. just remember he was a backup on a 19 win team!

if lebron was on the clippers they would never be a 19 win team

guys this has nothing to do with the clippers, but its NBA. is it true that gilbert arenas got traded to the chicago bulls?

Was this posted somewhere?

i understand the lakers will prob take brown but you cant really like taylor more..dude is too small shannon is a swole dude

LOL arenas is heading to chicago.......to conduct some workouts. here is the text from the espn insider rumors section- there is no trade, hes just heading there to workout. very misleading headline.

Arenas heading to Chicago
Gilbert Arenas | Wizards
Trainer Tim Grover, who worked for Kobe Bryant during the NBA Finals, told Michael Lee of The Washington Post that Gilbert Arenas will travel to Chicago in two weeks to work out at Grover's Attacks Athletics facility.

Lee reports the Wizards support the decision by Arenas to train elsewhere and will likely send someone up to Chicago to keep an eye on him.

There's a rumor that on Sporting News Radio they said we were talking with the Nets about Carter. Not sure if this is true, but I would do Camby and Thornton in a heartbeat.

RE: Vince Carter

If we could send a similar Al and Zbo package and get back Vince Carter and filler i would be for it. It looks like we would need to package Zbo with a better contract to trade him. The downsides to Vince are he is past his prime and will screw up our salary cap for 2010 if we want to make a run at Bosh or Durant.