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    Post subject: The Official Trade Ideas Thread  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 07:19 PM PST
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    I was on Hoopshype and saw this

    Wolves Expected to Trade Picks for Players
    Posted: 7/24/2008 6:28:00 AM
    Source: St. Paul Pioneer Press


    Although the Timberwolves have been accumulating first-round draft picks via trades and could end up with four for next year's draft, the team's plans are to use most of them to trade for players rather than select entry-level players.

    I think this might be a option. He makes over 6 million and with our remaining cap that would make 9 million. We could maybe get Monte Ellis or Josh Smith. Just a thought.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Trade Tim Thomas to Twolves for future pick (Salary Dump  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 07:29 PM PST
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    Are you saying that the Wolves would take Tim Thomas and give us a pick in return?!?!?!? I don't only envision that not happening, but also don't envision that even being thought about by them and even us.

    What I would like to see is for us to send Mobley and a first round pick to the Wolves for Mike Miller. I love Miller and his game, think that he would fit perfect with us. Also, he only has 2 years left as well and his salary matches with Cat's. I know they gave up OJ Mayo to get him, but if we can entice them with a pick, maybe they might do it. They aren't going anywhere next season, and can stack up those picks to trade for a legit player when the time is right. Miller might be a legit player now, but he won't be one by the time the rest of the team gets good.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Trade Tim Thomas to Twolves for future pick (Salary Dump  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 07:34 PM PST
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    ^^fan909 that sounds decent. I wonder what the front office is thinking now. Idea

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    Post subject: Re: RE: Trade Tim Thomas to Twolves for future pick (Salary  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 07:36 PM PST
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    clipshow wrote:
    ^^fan909 that sounds decent. I wonder what the front office is thinking now. Idea


    Thing that we won't know about until they happen....such a mysterious bunch.

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    Post subject: RE: Trade Tim Thomas to Twolves for future pick (Salary Dump  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 07:39 PM PST
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    I doubt that will happen because they dont want anymore draft picks. They are actually trying to trade them for players. If they want to be able to get free agents in 2010 they might trade a 2nd round pick for TT expiring contract.
     
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    Post subject: Re: RE: Trade Tim Thomas to Twolves for future pick (Salary  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 07:49 PM PST
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    redshocker14 wrote:
    I doubt that will happen because they dont want anymore draft picks. They are actually trying to trade them for players. If they want to be able to get free agents in 2010 they might trade a 2nd round pick for TT expiring contract.


    In order to clear cap space, there's no reason to trade for an expiring contract unless you're giving a long term contract in return.

    If the wolves wanted to clear cap space for 2010, and they figured that acquiring Tim Thomas would make sense because his contract would expire by that time, they they would trade a contract that exceeded 2 years, not one that they don't have to pay (non-guaranteed 2nd round pick)

    It does make sense that they might want to have proven players as opposed to draft picks which is why I said that if we give them one they can package the draft picks as more incentive for better proven players. You can never have too many future draft picks.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Trade Tim Thomas to Twolves for future pick (Sal  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 08:26 PM PST
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    I'd give them TT free...ala Denver style (option to trade picks) if it gave us the ability to sign a guy like Monta.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Trade Tim Thomas to Twolves for future pick (Sal  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 08:58 PM PST
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    lame.
    unless TT gets us miller somehow keep him.

    he isnt a star or a 2ndary scorer.

    but you dont forget to shoot 3. and with bdavis running the show and him not being even top 5 he can do the damage off bench.

    Remember what he did in pho with A TRUE PG running the show?
    not to mention his contract expiring in 2010 is huge.

    so giving TT FOR Free is the lamest thing i heard!
     
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    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Trade Tim Thomas to Twolves for future pick (Sal  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 09:10 PM PST
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    Getting rid of TT would gain the team an extra $6M, in addition to the $3M we have, that would be $9M. But the only teams with cap space are not going to want Tim Thomas for the next two years, unless we send them a combination of AL Thornton, Eric Gordon, Andre Jordan plus draft picks. Face it, Tim Thomas will be a Clipper for at least one more season..

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    You don't see what he's getting at. Were basically giving TT up for cap space to aquire a free agent. For somebody to say it's lame is uncalled for. People are just giving their opinion. If you don't like someones opinion there is other ways to disagree in a more mature way.
     
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    people like to bag on players left and right.
    i will be the 1st to say tt was a joke last year but that is far different then what he is going to give us this year.
    he isnt a star but a good compliment typle player on good team specially if he comes in and lights off from 3land.

    on a side not all our team is locked. now we are working on depth.
    i really doubth we would spend 9 mill to get a bench player.

    3mill or so is more then enough to get a quality bench player.
     
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    Post subject: Beasley for Thorton and Gordon  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 11:08 PM PST
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    I think we need to capitalize on getting another star players in here. If you look at our team, Baron Davis is almost 30 and I don't know how many years he will be good for. Hopefully another three atleast. Camby will be good for another two years, but by the time we wait for Eric Gordon to develope, are stars probably won't be as good. And there is a chance that Eric Gordon won't turn into the star we need, small though.

    We could try something crazy and trade Thorton and Gordon straight up for Michael Beasley. Fair trades might be for Michael Redd, giving away Gordon Thomas/Mobley.

    Then we could deal with Detroit by offering Mobley and Minesotas for Rip Hamilton.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Beasley for Thorton and Gordon  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 11:09 PM PST
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    ^ this player isnt a clipper fan

    if you were you would know how good AL was and would never post that.
    go away.
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    Post subject: RE: Beasley for Thorton and Gordon  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 11:13 PM PST
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    no way. give thorton 1 to 2 years and he will be an allstar. to me his already an allstar. eric gordon, this kid was throwing up big numbers before he went down in the summer league. he is just like a maggette but will become even better. he can get to the line, shoot threes, and defends well. thats a terrible trade to me.
     
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    Post subject: Re: RE: Beasley for Thorton and Gordon  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 11:18 PM PST
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    clippers0918 wrote:
    ^ this player isnt a clipper fan

    if you were you would know how good AL was and would never post that.
    go away.
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    Dude where do you go off saying he isn't a real Clipper fan? He actually picks up a couple valid points here. Who knows how long Eric Gordon will take to develop and who knows if he lives up to expectations. Maybe by then Camby has lost his edge (which is very possible). You have your opinions and so does clippersblue. It doesn't matter if you agree with him, at least give the guy some respect.

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    Post subject: RE: Beasley for Thorton and Gordon  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 11:20 PM PST
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    I wouldn't trade Thornton for anyone!! ANYONE. Not Kobe, not Lebron, not anyone. This gut does not know how good he can be, so we can not even imagine how good he WILL be.
     
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    Trade TT and Mobley to the knicks for Crawford and Curry.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Beasley for Thorton and Gordon  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 11:21 PM PST
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    You wouldn't trade Al Thornton for Lebron James straight up?....

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    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Beasley for Thorton and Gordon  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 11:22 PM PST
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    ^^^got a point but I think most if not all of us would never give up Thornton unless it were for a amazing player (ie. not a rookie) and even then we have all grown to look to this guy as our future franchise player if he continues the course he's on.
     
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    Post subject: RE: Beasley for Thorton and Gordon  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 11:22 PM PST
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    LOL. Trade 2 future all stars for 1 6'6 power forward???? DO you guys realize when they measured him pre draft workouts Beasley measured at 6'6??? as it is he only weighs about 215... I mean i would NEVER start a 6'6 215 pounder at power forward in the west unless you want to lose. Thornton is a definite future all star and Gordon at least will be a great role player or sixth man. Very bad trade for the Clippers
     
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    Post subject: Re: RE: Beasley for Thorton and Gordon  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 11:23 PM PST
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    lakersandangels!

    simple. if someone is a retard your allowed to point it out.
    He is some other teams fan making a clipper user to post it.

    AL is already better then beasly who has yet to play a game.
    and gordon could be better.

    al and gordon for beasly is just a joke!!!!!
    and NO CLIPPER FAN WOULD EVEN POST THAT!!
     
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    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Beasley for Thorton and Gordon  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 11:29 PM PST
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    LMAO I fu**kin agree with clippers0918 what the hell gordon and thorton for besealy. NO WAY!!! all you doubters about AL you just watch he will be good real good hes only been in the league for 1 year. give him some time and Gordon will be a hes shown us he can make the nba 3 in college with ease. this would be a bad trade. AL & GORDON are our future

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    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Beasley for Thorton and Gordon  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 11:29 PM PST
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    I'm not saying I agree with the trade, but I wouldn't go and assume something if you don't really know his intentions. If he has some record of posts like this then please present it to me, but he doesn't seem to be coming here with bad intentions.

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    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Beasley for Thorton and Gordon  PostPosted: Jul 24, 2008 - 11:29 PM PST
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    yea this is the dumbest trade ive ever heard...theres no valid points here. he says eric gordon could take forever to develop..uh so could beasley..i woujldnt trade thornton one for one for beasley