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redshocker14
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Los Angeles Clippers trade ideas presented by fans with salary analysis and discussions on possible team impact/improvement with the addition/subtraction of specific players.


I was on Hoopshype and saw this

Wolves Expected to Trade Picks for Players Posted: 7/24/2008 6:28:00 AM Source: St. Paul Pioneer Press

Although the Timberwolves have been accumulating first-round draft picks via trades and could end up with four for next year's draft, the team's plans are to use most of them to trade for players rather than select entry-level players.

I think this might be a option. He makes over 6 million and with our remaining cap that would make 9 million. We could maybe get Monte Ellis or Josh Smith. Just a thought.

clipperfan909
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Are you saying that the Wolves would take Tim Thomas and give us a pick in return?!?!?!? I don't only envision that not happening, but also don't envision that even being thought about by them and even us.

What I would like to see is for us to send Mobley and a first round pick to the Wolves for Mike Miller. I love Miller and his game, think that he would fit perfect with us. Also, he only has 2 years left as well and his salary matches with Cat's. I know they gave up OJ Mayo to get him, but if we can entice them with a pick, maybe they might do it. They aren't going anywhere next season, and can stack up those picks to trade for a legit player when the time is right. Miller might be a legit player now, but he won't be one by the time the rest of the team gets good.

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^^fan909 that sounds decent. I wonder what the front office is thinking now. idea

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Thing that we won't know about until they happen....such a mysterious bunch.

redshocker14
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I doubt that will happen because they dont want anymore draft picks. They are actually trying to trade them for players. If they want to be able to get free agents in 2010 they might trade a 2nd round pick for TT expiring contract.

clipperfan909
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In order to clear cap space, there's no reason to trade for an expiring contract unless you're giving a long term contract in return.

If the wolves wanted to clear cap space for 2010, and they figured that acquiring Tim Thomas would make sense because his contract would expire by that time, they they would trade a contract that exceeded 2 years, not one that they don't have to pay (non-guaranteed 2nd round pick)

It does make sense that they might want to have proven players as opposed to draft picks which is why I said that if we give them one they can package the draft picks as more incentive for better proven players. You can never have too many future draft picks.

corgiBear8
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I'd give them TT free...ala Denver style (option to trade picks) if it gave us the ability to sign a guy like Monta.

clippers0918
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lame.

unless TT gets us miller somehow keep him.

he isnt a star or a 2ndary scorer.

but you dont forget to shoot 3. and with bdavis running the show and him not being even top 5 he can do the damage off bench.

Remember what he did in pho with A TRUE PG running the show?

not to mention his contract expiring in 2010 is huge.

so giving TT FOR Free is the lamest thing i heard!

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Getting rid of TT would gain the team an extra $6M, in addition to the $3M we have, that would be $9M. But the only teams with cap space are not going to want Tim Thomas for the next two years, unless we send them a combination of AL Thornton, Eric Gordon, Andre Jordan plus draft picks. Face it, Tim Thomas will be a Clipper for at least one more season..

redshocker14
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You don't see what he's getting at. Were basically giving TT up for cap space to aquire a free agent. For somebody to say it's lame is uncalled for. People are just giving their opinion. If you don't like someones opinion there is other ways to disagree in a more mature way.

clippers0918
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people like to bag on players left and right.

i will be the 1st to say tt was a joke last year but that is far different then what he is going to give us this year.

he isnt a star but a good compliment typle player on good team specially if he comes in and lights off from 3land.

on a side not all our team is locked. now we are working on depth.

i really doubth we would spend 9 mill to get a bench player.

3mill or so is more then enough to get a quality bench player.

clippersblue
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I think we need to capitalize on getting another star players in here. If you look at our team, Baron Davis is almost 30 and I don't know how many years he will be good for. Hopefully another three atleast. Camby will be good for another two years, but by the time we wait for Eric Gordon to develope, are stars probably won't be as good. And there is a chance that Eric Gordon won't turn into the star we need, small though.

We could try something crazy and trade Thorton and Gordon straight up for Michael Beasley. Fair trades might be for Michael Redd, giving away Gordon Thomas/Mobley.

Then we could deal with Detroit by offering Mobley and Minesotas for Rip Hamilton.

clippers0918
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^ this player isnt a clipper fan

if you were you would know how good AL was and would never post that.

go away.

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clippersforlife33
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no way. give thorton 1 to 2 years and he will be an allstar. to me his already an allstar. eric gordon, this kid was throwing up big numbers before he went down in the summer league. he is just like a maggette but will become even better. he can get to the line, shoot threes, and defends well. thats a terrible trade to me.

lakersandangels
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Dude where do you go off saying he isn't a real Clipper fan? He actually picks up a couple valid points here. Who knows how long Eric Gordon will take to develop and who knows if he lives up to expectations. Maybe by then Camby has lost his edge (which is very possible). You have your opinions and so does clippersblue. It doesn't matter if you agree with him, at least give the guy some respect.

2CLIPisHip
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I wouldn't trade Thornton for anyone!! ANYONE. Not Kobe, not Lebron, not anyone. This gut does not know how good he can be, so we can not even imagine how good he WILL be.

2CLIPisHip
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Trade TT and Mobley to the knicks for Crawford and Curry.

lakersandangels
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You wouldn't trade Al Thornton for Lebron James straight up?....

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^^^got a point but I think most if not all of us would never give up Thornton unless it were for a amazing player (ie. not a rookie) and even then we have all grown to look to this guy as our future franchise player if he continues the course he's on.

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LOL. Trade 2 future all stars for 1 6'6 power forward???? DO you guys realize when they measured him pre draft workouts Beasley measured at 6'6??? as it is he only weighs about 215... I mean i would NEVER start a 6'6 215 pounder at power forward in the west unless you want to lose. Thornton is a definite future all star and Gordon at least will be a great role player or sixth man. Very bad trade for the Clippers

clippers0918
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lakersandangels!

simple. if someone is a retard your allowed to point it out.

He is some other teams fan making a clipper user to post it.

AL is already better then beasly who has yet to play a game.

and gordon could be better.

al and gordon for beasly is just a joke!!!!!

and NO CLIPPER FAN WOULD EVEN POST THAT!!

LAsonlyteam
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LMAO I fu**kin agree with clippers0918 what the hell gordon and thorton for besealy. NO WAY!!! all you doubters about AL you just watch he will be good real good hes only been in the league for 1 year. give him some time and Gordon will be a hes shown us he can make the nba 3 in college with ease. this would be a bad trade. AL & GORDON are our future

lakersandangels
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I'm not saying I agree with the trade, but I wouldn't go and assume something if you don't really know his intentions. If he has some record of posts like this then please present it to me, but he doesn't seem to be coming here with bad intentions.

mvp1523
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yea this is the dumbest trade ive ever heard...theres no valid points here. he says eric gordon could take forever to develop..uh so could beasley..i woujldnt trade thornton one for one for beasley

Clippersfan86
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Yup Thornton plays the 3 spot and is 2 inches taller than Beasley a PF. Size isnt everything but when you play 4 or 5 spot.. you cant be 6'6 215. Brand was only 6'8 but he was also 265, and thats like the shortest pf's in the league. Either gotta be tall and lanky (Garnett 6'11 225), or 6'8 255-270 like Brand.

lakersandangels
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Ok people I am not saying I am agreeing with this trade, I am just trying to defend him. If you don't think he is a Clipper fan go check his post history, I don't see what he is doing wrong other than expressing his opinion. Whether his opinion here is in the general interest or not, you don't need to go put him down for it.

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First of all...why the heck would you want to trade two players that the Clippers Organization covet and see as future all-stars of the team??? Why would you think that Beasley is any better than Gordon when in fact, both Beasley and Gordon havent played a single season game? Al Thornton proved he is going to be great someday when he set a Clippers rookie scoring record (39pts) and was very productive despite having "42" gone with an injury, Cassell being released and having a roster prone to injuries....even though he started slow, he stepped up and showed he can play in....

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clippers0918
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okey i may have been too strong. sorry clipperblue.

but that post simply was a joke that is why i exploded

Clippersfan86
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Yea Beasley is overrated and i already know that prior to his first game. Lacks size, Simply wont be able to defend Dwight howard, Sheed, Kg ..I mean people say he is a great defender but how can a 6'6 power forward guard a 6'11 260 pound Dwight Howard, whom is the most dominant player in the league? Point being unless they slot him down to the 3 spot (which i doubt he can play efficiently), He will not last long in this league.

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He either needs to gain 30 pounds of muscle or grow 3-4 inches.

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well i like this trade in the sense that we get rid of TT and get Crawford. TT is a bum, Crawfords a good scorer. but what would we do with Curry? We already have Kaman and Camby.

I'd like to get Crawford though. maybe TT and a pick or something for Crawford, but there's no reason to include Curry.

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Thornton will be almost or as good as Magettee this yr

corgiBear8
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I wouldn't mind crawford either. I also don't like Curry. Looks like the Clippers are going to be announcing a signing soon. Hope it is someone we all agree upon.

TT is still getting paid presently for the great job he did in Phoenix. I'm hard on him because I think he is lazy and is wasting away all the physical talent he has. He has the ability to be a really good role player (even at his age), but it seems like he doesn't really care about winning. Players like TT don't seem to fit in well on championship teams, which is what I'm hoping the Clippers are trying to build.

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Yeah most likely. And he'll come with better defense, attitude, and the youth to continue to become a better player.

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I don't like this trade because it would further strip the bench. Same with all of these Cat & TT for (fill in the blank) trades. At some point we've got to establish balance on this team. We don't need more superstars if it means we have zero depth. Looks good on a video game, but in reality ...

The big deals are over, it's now time for minor tinkering.

Also, Beasley is an unknown quantity. To risk everything on him being the next Karl Malone is ... too risky.

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Yes stats say he should. I hope he is a better all around player than maggette. But why on earth would we trade our young and up and comer for beasly. Who would basically sit on the bench behind camby. Even though he is small he cant play the sf position. No need to get hard on him though folks. He thought of a trade brought up decent points but forgot the negatives. Everyone does it.

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too late for monta he signed allready...its only josh left

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Nets looking to deal a forward

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I know alot of people including myself don't really care for TT but he has been on most of the teams people are saying we should trade him to. No one wants TT. He had a decent few months for the Suns. He kinda played outta position last year. At the same time he doesn't have much trade value until his contract is expiring. Need to come up with a different idea involving other players because I doubt anyone would want him. He was on Phili, Mil, NY, Chitown, Suns, now us. The teams he has played for probably don't want him back let alone anyone that has seen him play. All im saying is we need new trade ideas involving someone else.

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you obviously never watched a K-state game last year or any summer league games. The guy has pretty decent quickness and loves shooting the three. BTW people... he is only 19, when has a 19 year old not filled out? Come on guys be realsitic. Beasley has an amazing amount of potential only thing in question is his attitude and maturity.

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Looks like Sean Williams is on the trading block over at the nets. He has shown some signs of offfensive skill and is a decent rebounder but is a beast on D especially blocking shots and he has a small contract. He could come in and give good backup minutes for both Camby and Kaman and still not be sacraficing D. Just a thought...

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for who tho?

clipperboy24
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sorry i forgot to mention... maybe future picks 2nd round of course if possible or even a protected first rounder, williams is definitely very talented

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We don't need another PF. His FT% is too low. In principle not a bad idea though

clipperboy24
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i think actually... we do need another pf/c because powell is mediocre and kaman and camby are both very injury prone, also thomas should be used more at SF imo

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Offer Thomas, Mobley and Gordon for Barbosa. Then with the space left over offer FA FInley and Kurt Thomas contracts. SHould be enough dollars left to make a good offer. What do Mobley and Thomas make combined???

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Patience is a virtue.

I trust TT and Cat for some limited minutes (TT more limited than cat.)

When the 2010 free agent class rolls around and Mobley, TT and Camby's contracts expire. We're going to be verrry happy that we didn't trade those expiring contracts for a quick fix.

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I hope so. If it is one thing a Clipper fan must have, patience would be it. However, I just want Thomas and Mobley gone. The fresher we get, the better at this point. I want new faces. I love the moves so far and I want them to continue.

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The only thing that i think would benefit us greatly is if we trade Mobley and Thomas for a contract that will also expire in 2010 lol.

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i been hearing that al harrington wants a trade

i think that we should trade tt and a pick for al harrington

after that we should sign either ricky davis or bonzi wells or maybe even both of them you never know the clips front office been doing great this offseason

then sign livy and ross for minimum contracts

this would give us some depth

just look at this

davis/hart/livy

mobley/gordon/ross

thorton/wells or ricky/ross

camby/harrington/powell

kaman/powell/jordan

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