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^^^ that's amazingly terrible. Amazing and bledsoe's blocking ability but terrible in that our starting rookie pg is 3rd in blocks on our team.

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Any chance The Clippers can/will go after JJ Reddick should Orlando give up on him if he continues to struggle with his shot??

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I cannot remember any time in Clipper history where I was so optimistic about our future. Griffin will be our savior, Gordon his wing man, Bledsoe will be the reincarnation of Tony Parker, and Aminu is turning into a very, very good shooter. My trade idea is this...keep what we have under 22. Do not, under any circumstances dissolve this team. Keep Griffin, Keep Gordon, keep Bledsoe, keep Aminu...everyone else can shipped off to the Minessota Timberwolves for a pack of trident layers.

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I've seen the Clippers in the past have a very bright future and it materialize into only a 2nd round birth. I'm as excited as ever after the huge win tonight! All four Clippers rookies look outstanding and anyone else notice Eric Gordon is top 10 in the league in points per game???

Still, I say here’s how trades go down:

Untouchables: Blake Griffin

Semi-untouchable: Eric Gordon (I let him go if it’s a true all star; i.e. Carmelo Anthony with extension for a package that ships off Gordon and Baron)

Very available but only for a high valued asset in return: Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe, 1st round pick and Minny 1st round pick.

I say come December 15th lets make 1 trade and try and win now. The future has never looked brighter with all the rookies playing so well, but if we get the right offer lets jump on it. Aminu/Kaman for Granger/Hibbert. Or Baron and a 1st round pick for some type of asset to help win now and get his salary off the books. GO CLIPPS!

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Blake & Baron for Westbrook and Durant.

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If LAC sends the #1 overall to Detroit, and Melo will sign an extension, who doesn't do this?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=27gcss6

ekker3
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i was super intrigued up until i got to detroit.

joe dumars wouldnt do it. i think detroit gets worse there.

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what if its Gordon Heyward instead of CJ Miles? deal would still work.

ekker3
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the issue that detroit's trying to get away from is age and uselessness. baron's both of them. hawyard's a nice piece but not nearly good enough to erase the baron factor.

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I think detroit would at least want Kaman out of this deal and utah wouldn't pull the trigger cuz wat they're doing right now is working with AK and Jefferson

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Sac town wants a point man to help cousins and evans mesh, and the fact is, they're not going to pick up much talent without giving something up. Do you think they do baron for dalembert? Sam can protect the rim, and defend the heck out of the center spot. Takes Baron's contact off the books and gives us max cap room to run at Melo or Gasol. Dalembert is what I hope DJ will become (shot blocking presence, good man defender and rebounder), his presence to mentor DJ would help out a lot. There's plenty of room for 4 bigs, plus it means no more seeing Collins play.

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^^^One can only dream.

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This is the logical way to do things. Sure, people dont want to trade away Kaman but we do have a young core: Griffin, Gordon, Aminu, and Bledsoe to build around. Kaman does not fit with the direction this team is going in. We must trade him and get draft picks in return. Once we have the salary left over from trading Kaman, and hopefully Baron too, we can have a ton of cap space left over to add quality free agents after this young team has developed some chemistry.

I do think that drafting has been a successful way to get to the playoffs as of late, just look at OKC, Portland, and to some extent Utah. However, once you have your core guys to build around you must add pieces or else they will be a perennial 5 seed that gets knocked out of the first round like Portland does.

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I know its Hoophype, but they mentioned that multiple parties said that Peja Stojakovic is more than likely to be traded before being bought out by the deadline. Therefore my scenario is:

Trade = Baron + this years 1st round pick for Peja

Why = It will require a first round pick probably for them to do it because Peja's contract is an expiring one and they have to take on Baron's contract. However, they get a pure pg out of Baron (cuz Bayless is more of a combo guard) and they get a prime pick in the 1st round (most likely top 10), to help rebuild their team for cheap.

I would much rather have 15 mill coming off the books and Baron not playing for this team frankly. than have a first round pick this year. We already have two 1st round picks the following year anyways and now that people see we got a team, I'm more than sure we will be able to find someone in FA this upcoming offseason.

What do you all think? Is this plausible?

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OK, but not this year's pick. Trading next year's pick still allows us one good one with Minny's pick, but more importantly, have you seen our W/L record this year? Could you imagine Baines in this lineup?

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^^^ barnes = the next Marvin Williams, which equals bust. I think we should draft either Brandon knight or kyrie Irving. Bledsoe is good, but he'll never be elite. Irving has a really good chance to be an elite PG, same with knight, though I'd rather have kyrie over Brandon cause kyrie is more of an all around point guard, as opposed to Brandon knight, who is more of a scorer. Also, there is Perry jones, but I think he's a pf, not an sf.

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Perry Jones can play either SF or PF... Very similar player to Beasley... Big, strong, can shoot with range and handle. He's a sure thing...

As far as Brandon Knight, no thanks. No a true point guard and Kemba Walker for UCONN destroyed him... If we fall out of the top five, keep on eye on Walker... 6'1" PG who makes Blesoe look slow... He's improved more this off season than any player in college hoops, going from a good player and likely second round pick to the leading scorer in the NCAA this year, averaging 30 a game. He's got the whole package... Handle, shoot, pass, defend and there won't be a guard in the NBA who can stay in front of this guy...

clipperboy24
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I love how most clippers fans really were never exposed to Bledsoe before the Clippers and how they have prejudged him so much. The guy has great PG IQ and is still getting used to the NBA. He is coming from a team where he was forced to play SG (Kentucky) and now has been throw in the limelight with the CLippers as a starter. I put my faith in him because of a few reasons:

1) He is naturally an athlete, this cant be taught, jumps thru the roof, has incredible strength, speed and quickness, all great qualities for a PG

2) He has very good vision. His passes when he slashes are great he is often running too fast that other players arent even ready for them, but is out of control.

3) He plays hard every game and with that hard D.

4) he is a very decent shooter and makes good decisions in his shooting (outside of the wild layup every game.) I wish he would shoot more.

5) he actually pushes the ball and spreads it. Unlike Baron he doesnt need to hold for 10-15 seconds of every shot clock. And to everyone who apparently thinks Baron's way is the best way to run a team, a PG doesnt need to dominate the ball every possession but he actually gets the offense working.

Its been 17 games and he is already ranked as a top 5 rookie this year. COme on guys, we need to be realistic. He is performing well (i didnt watch last night's game yet but looked like he might have been struggling) and with rookies there are ups and downs, but his ups have really far outweighed his downs.

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Bledsoe is solid, but Irving is a stud. He's got great court vision and he scores with a whole lot of efficiency. You can't pass us on talent like. That, it never huts to have 2 god players at the same position, look at the lakers (gasol odom) jazz (boozer millsap).

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If the clippers were really serious about winning now they would package Ryan Gomes, Randy Foye and the minny pick for tayshaun prince. and sign him to a 3 year extension. you guys may think im crazy but i think we can win now with the group we have and possibly make the playoffs. we dont need another young player who can possibly be a bust. and if we dont end up making the playoffs we still have this years draft pick to use on another piece to the puzzle. I know the numbers work because i believe prince is making a little bit over 10 mill a year and foye and gomes combine contract is about 9 mill plus i think but not sure, we have a couple mill in cap space left. and if the front office is really serious about winning they will use the mid-level exception next year for another solid role play marcus thorton is a free agent next year maybe he can be that guy for us.

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I believe December 15 is when teams can start trading their newly sign free agents

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here's my issue with that:

the minny pick could be very valuable. since we've already got the young players in place, a potential top 5 pick (maybe even #1) could be the final puzzle piece in growing something long term.

dont get me wrong, id love to have tayshaun on-board, but to sacrifice the draft pick for a player that not gonna take us deep into the playoffs toward a ring isnt worth it.

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This sounds good. We have a huge hole at SF that a draft pick isn't going to fill. We need a solid vet, not another kid. Prince has a ring. A Minny Pick doesn't. Except at Center this is one great young team and we don't need another kid. Aminu can't defend yet. Good team this year, PO's Very Happy next. We have to do something except draft picks to keep BG

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I don't mind giving up the Wolves pick, but it has to be for a player that's really going to help us and that's going to be with our core for a long time. Iguodala and Carmelo are two players that come to mind.

That pick is possibly the most valuable trade asset in the league right now. The Wolves don't seem to be doing much right and everyone in the league knows this.

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This years pick is likely in the 5-10 range. Picks like that aren't worth giving away for expirings. What free agent is going to want to come to a team that gives away its only playmaker and a pick that could be a part of our core for an expiring contract?

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ekker3 wrote:
Microclipps wrote:
If the clippers were really serious about winning now they would package Ryan Gomes, Randy Foye and the minny pick for tayshaun prince. and sign him to a 3 year extension. you guys may think im crazy but i think we can win now with the group we have and possibly make the playoffs. we dont need another young player who can possibly be a bust. and if we dont end up making the playoffs we still have this years draft pick to use on another piece to the puzzle. I know the numbers work because i believe prince is making a little bit over 10 mill a year and foye and gomes combine contract is about 9 mill plus i think but not sure, we have a couple mill in cap space left. and if the front office is really serious about winning they will use the mid-level exception next year for another solid role play marcus thorton is a free agent next year maybe he can be that guy for us.

here's my issue with that:

the minny pick could be very valuable. since we've already got the young players in place, a potential top 5 pick (maybe even #1) could be the final puzzle piece in growing something long term.

dont get me wrong, id love to have tayshaun on-board, but to sacrifice the draft pick for a player that not gonna take us deep into the playoffs toward a ring isnt worth it.

I dont think Prince is worth the pick but i would definitely trade that pick if it guaranteed making the playoffs. Most people seems to forget we have only been once in the last 13 years. In that time we have had multiple first round picks that never helped us win.

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Prince is a nice player, but his best years are behind him. We have a young team... Prince could be gotten for hell of a lot less than that Minny pick, which could be a top 5.

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what do you guys think of iggy now that we see some potential in AFA? Should we still go for him because Sixers wanna trade him now.

SamMays
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Not a big Iggy fan. If he was so great, why is Philly so bad? The only way I'd bring him in is if it means moving Baron.

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I don't do that. With the #1 overall, we should target Kyrie Irving. Kid is going to be something special.

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I'm all for trading a pick for the right veteran. I don't think Prince is the right veteran. Some vets remain effective even in the latter half of their careers (we'll see one in Camby tonight). But Prince strikes me as a player of diminishing returns.

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Clipswhit wrote:
ClipFit wrote:
If LAC sends the #1 overall to Detroit, and Melo will sign an extension, who doesn't do this?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=27gcss6

I don't do that. With the #1 overall, we should target Kyrie Irving. Kid is going to be something special.

for a proven all star and a near all star i would easily trade 1st round picks away!

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Prince is a proven winner and still a good player, but why trade away a lottery pick for a guy we could've had this past off-season for a second round pick?

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Fortunately for us Baron Davis has been playing well the past two games, which is going to bring up his trade value. Also, maybe Detroit would be interested in swapping Stuckey for Kaman

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clipperboy24 wrote:
Clipswhit wrote:
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If LAC sends the #1 overall to Detroit, and Melo will sign an extension, who doesn't do this?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=27gcss6

I don't do that. With the #1 overall, we should target Kyrie Irving. Kid is going to be something special.

for a proven all star and a near all star i would easily trade 1st round picks away!

I would do it, but I can't see anyway in hell Utah would do that trade.

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Baron Davis to the Pistons for Richard Hamilton.

Why for the Pistons?

Stuckey is more of a scorer than a point guard, it is becoming pretty clear that his natural position is the shooting guard, but they've got Ben Gordon and Rip there already. Hamilton's contract runs the same number of years as Baron's and is about 3 millions dollars cheaper in total, but Baron is probably the superior player.

Detroit's back court 3 man rotation:

SG - Stuckey/Gordon

PG - Baron/Stuckey

Why for the Clippers?

The Clippers desperately need someone who can move off the ball and free himself up for the shot, and Hamilton does just that. He is such a good shooter because he frees himself up by always remaining in motion. He would thrive here with all the attention the Griffin gets. throws Bledsoe into the fire for the rest of the year, but it frees up the spot for the Kyrie Irving sweepstakes, and brings a quality player in off the bench for Gordon.

Our back court:

Gordon/Hamilton

Bledsoe/Gordon/Warren

If we get lucky with draft position:

Gordon/Hamilton/Warren

Irving/Bledsoe/Warren

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^ Not to mention that Prince has played with Hamilton and grew up in LA. How's this for a roster coming out of the 2011 off season?

DJ/Kaman/Cook

Griffin/Smith/Cook

Prince/Aminu/Gomes

Gordon/Hamilton/Warren

Irving/Bledsoe/Warren

Maybe missing a front court piece (with the 2012 pick looming), but that team looks very plausible (Irving is projected as the 4th pick, and if the season ended today, we'd be guaranteed a top 4 pick). The 3 veteran role players, two of whom played a huge role in winning a championship. 3 young guns (Gordon, Griffin, Irving) as the back bone of the franchise. Two talented, but inconsistent young guys off the bench where they're an afterthought to Kaman and Hamilton. DJ stepping his game up defensively. I can see hat team makiing a deep playoff run.

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I trade him in a second for the brunette laker girl with the big t!tt!es

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BD for Clipper Taylor. Throw in a second round pick. Get it done.

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I'd trade him for a pair of her knickers.

Not that they're worth $13mil, but neither is he!

Icecoldclipper
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How is Baron enemy of the state when he was the reason we were even in our games lately. U23 hasn't don anything and yet we want to get rid of the only guy who can run an offense?

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This should answer your question...

wins this season:

OKC: Davis DNP

NOH: Davis DNP

SAS: Davis DNP

SAC: Davis DNP

SAC: Davis 20 min, 4 Pts, 8 Ast, 2 Reb, 2 TO, 1 Blk, 25% FG, +/- -12

Bledsoe 27 min, 15 Pts, 3 Ast, 3 Reb, 0 TO, 0 Blk, 33% FG ,+/- +19

In his 'Iron-man' 9 games played this year, Baron has played a part in precisely ONE win. Even then, he was outshone by Bledsoe, who, if you look at the +/-, actually cleaned up his mess.

Bledsoe has a PER of +15... Baron's is +3, while we pay Baron more than 10 times Bledsoe's salary.

But you do have to consider the intangibles, those little things not measurable with cold, hard statistics...

Baron has a nice beard...

Expensive, but nice.

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I just read Andre Miller, Przybilla and Camby are on trade block. Blazers want to go young and rebuild. I REALLY want our front office to pursue Camby. He's perfectly what this team needs. He was happiest in LA. Even to this day he seems to still like our team a lot. I would be happy as hell if we get him.

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baron and kaman getting hurt was a blessing in the sky for clipper fans who want a change...it showcased aminu and bledsoe talent to the point that they become HIGH TRADE BAIT for the clippers

now now now,,,, automatically we have the clips fans saying WHAT..BELDSOE AMINU??? BUT WE NEED TO GROW AND LOOSE

but im talking to the fans who understand that blake already has one foot out the door, the ones who actually understand the game of basketball...the ones who know WE ARE NOT OKC

no doubt in my mind aminu can get iggy or price, bledsoe definitely can bring in another star from a desperate team...to the point that we can become a championship team this year

this team is about BLAKE GRIFFIN...make him grow with rookies ..say goodbye....put him around vets ...he can take us somewhere

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Sounds exactly like the Cavaliers approach with LeBron James.

How many championships did they win? Where is James now?

I think you're just the kind of "fan" who likes to post numerous threads hoping one will hit the nail on the head and cause a stir through the forums.

Frankly, you are the one devoid of basketball knowledge if you think Tayshaun Prince is a viable option for us. Not only would giving up Aminu for him give up youth and upside, but Prince has clearly lost a step. He's not even as good as Aminu is right now. He's not the defender he once was, he continues to fight with his coach, and he doesn't hit threes even close to the clip that he once did. His stroke is lost. Check the stats and watch some games. Read an article or two as well.

As far as Iguodala goes, he's a third option on a great team. Unfortunately, he gets paid like a first option. As it is, we have a third and fourth option paid similarly so I don't see how that improves this team for this season and ones down the road.

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Well one thing for sure,,in any sport money talks. Loyalty to a team doens't exist really,,unless that loyalty comes with a few green backs. Blake sells tickets, he is a one man show. DTS would have to insane to let this goldmine go. We enjoy the game, owners enjoy the money and this team will bring the fans back and therfore the greenbacks. that, IMHO, is how this works.

ClipfanSince88
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^^^ I like that. Camby would be pretty perfect fit, considering the other things we have. I'd swap Kaman straight up for him, notwithstanding the age difference. Miller and Pryz, on the other hand, the Blazers can keep.

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At this point i'd trade Baron for a bag of chips n a tall can of beer.

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I expect a trade from us on December 15th or 16th. It better bring iggy here. Give them kaman, foye, and future first for iggy and filler.

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you do know the salaries doesn't match up right? You have to add a 12oz bag of gummy bears

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