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clipperAndrew
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And I semi agree you dont trade a high draft pick, but when your coach is MDsr, why bother keeping him? So he can sit and play 10 min a game and not have the oppurtiunty to shine?

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your list points out that over the two years since the transition from Baylor to dunleavy the clippers have drafted well. Thorton who was the steal of the draft and has all star written all over him, gorden who is a pure superstar prospect (along with mayo love rose and beasely in the draft), and then the clippers draft deandre who is a young very talented center that could pan out to be a good big man and the biggest proof of the good scout by the clippers, mike taylor. He is a rookie and already hes backing up BD over heart who was supposed to be the guy who can run the show when baron needs a breather. Props to the clippers for picking a gem from the D league.

If anything the clippers could use the mobley thomas heart contracts as bait for a push on maybe Vincanity, redd, marion, or some other game changer who could be that missing piece from the clippers balling other teams

1-8 might force management to start thinking proactive.

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Good points but I'm sorry I don't agree with this thread.. There's many many players that we let go of that end up becoming huge role players for other teams.

Look at Matt Barnes. Never got any playing time here and all of a sudden he's a huge player for the Warriors and now the Suns. Can't really remember too many but we've let alot of good players slip out of our fingers, if you want Clipper management to change what they've been doing, your thread topic should be to HOLD ON TO OUR DRAFT PICK FOR ONCE.

Have you realized, of all those high draft picks we've had, which ones have we held on to? Clipper management has the tendency to let go of all their draft picks. We only have Kaman, Gordon, and Thornton left, and aside from Kaman the other two were from the last two years.

Let Gordon shine!

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We also originally landed the 2nd overall pick and weren't the Magic deciding between Dwight Howard and Emeka Okafor? So we also could have had one of the two.

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so you would have wanted to keep Tyson Chandler? Yoroslov Korolov?

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dodgerdude wrote:
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2004- Shuan Livingston, This one hurts...Tons of great talent we missed on, such as Devin Harris, Loul Deng, Andre Iguodola, Josh Smith, Al Jefferson

We also originally landed the 2nd overall pick and weren't the Magic deciding between Dwight Howard and Emeka Okafor? So we also could have had one of the two.

Dwight Howard was never an option. The Magic drafted him with the number one pick (regardless of where the Clippers picked, he would have been off the board already).

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clipperAndrew wrote:
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Good points but I'm sorry I don't agree with this thread.. There's many many players that we let go of that end up becoming huge role players for other teams.

Look at Matt Barnes. Never got any playing time here and all of a sudden he's a huge player for the Warriors and now the Suns. Can't really remember too many but we've let alot of good players slip out of our fingers, if you want Clipper management to change what they've been doing, your thread topic should be to HOLD ON TO OUR DRAFT PICK FOR ONCE.

Have you realized, of all those high draft picks we've had, which ones have we held on to? Clipper management has the tendency to let go of all their draft picks. We only have Kaman, Gordon, and Thornton left, and aside from Kaman the other two were from the last two years.

Let Gordon shine!

so you would have wanted to keep Tyson Chandler? Yoroslov Korolov?

Tyson Chandler looks surprisingly good now. He woulda been great with Baron Davis. Korolev.. I never saw the guy play much so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

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Who needs Tyson Chandler? We have DeAndre Jordan! I love that kid, wish he could see more playing time

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It looks like Jerry is very unhappy with The Mavs right now. If he demands a trade, should we offer them Darrell for Stackhouse? Maybe Mark Cuban can get his cheerleader and we can get someone who defends & can hit the tray. Let's get this done before Cuban goes to Club Fed. :D All kidding aside, Maybe Dunleavy can offer up TT ( about same salary ) for Stackhouse? I would jump all over this. Oh, and we will throw in Darrell just for kicks. Your thoughts? Jerry Stackhouse believes he still has a lot of minutes in him -- he's just not....

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Haha, normally I would say, well we can't get any worse, what do we have to lose? Stackhouse could make a little bit of a difference, but Thomas' contract is so valuable, I think we'll find especially next year that desperate teams are going to make desperate trades for cap space in 2010. If we could get someone incredible for mobley and/or Thomas, absolutely, but Stack is getting up there in age

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It looks like Jerry is very unhappy with The Mavs right now. If he demands a trade, should we offer them Darrell for Stackhouse? Maybe Mark Cuban can get his cheerleader and we can get someone who defends & can hit the tray. Let's get this done before Cuban goes to Club Fed. :D All kidding aside, Maybe Dunleavy can offer up TT ( about same salary ) for Stackhouse? I would jump all over this. Oh, and we will throw in Darrell just for kicks. Your thoughts? Jerry Stackhouse believes he still has a lot of minutes in him -- he's....

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This thread is more tongue and cheek to shake this bad vibe the board has been on. I am a little serious about though. I have always liked his defense which to me is as just as important as offense. I know he plays SG but the guy can also play SF as well. I would also add that I would trade TT before I would ever trade Mobley.

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i think of all player Skinner need more burn and TT leaving seems like the only way he will get it. MD still has adjusted to a struggling Ricky D and play Tim Thomas at the SF and Skinner at the PF spot off the bench.

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TT for Stack would be a good trade if both their contracts expired at the same time

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Stackhouse would be a nice scorer for us, starting or off the bench. Ricky Davis for Stackhouse?

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That's what I was thinking but there is a 5 million dollar difference. The only salary that matches up is TT's. I would do that in a heartbeat if it was possible.

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I think it is time to make a trade. Kaman is good, but we need a powerforward to score. Alanta has two many powerforwards and needs a center. We need a powerforward. So, I'd ask for one of these players. Either one is good enough, but I'd prefer Marvin Williams. Money wise would work if they threw in Zachu somebody.

Oh, and fire Dunlevy, send him to GM.

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nah casue we could get some1 wayyyy better for kaman. if we give them kaman and novak or something for josh smith lol. i know they wouldnt do it, but im just trying to say we can do better than marvin williams.

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what if we trade g. wallace for al thornton? i would rather not, i would be scared to make this move, but wallace is more of a slasher and may complement baron more. thornton does have a way better jumpshot and iso game though. sounds like the bobcats are looking to make a move pretty bad. they cut two people today to sign another guy and want anotino mcdysse. also, if we are trading kaman, no doubt we get someone better than williams or zaza pachulia.

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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &cash=

Now here's a trade that would work.

The Clippers cash in on their pieces for what could be a missing piece plus a sharpshooter. The Bobcats get to pair Okafor with a scoring bigman, and the Knicks get rid of Randolph for expiring contracts. If the Bobcats want Thornton, then let them throw in a draft pick.

Now we just need the LA media to shove this down everyone's throat...

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Matt Carroll is good, but I want to see Novak play more, I'm starting to wonder why Dunleavy got him if he's not going to use him

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With the current look of things, we're stuck with Ricky Davis, Eric Gordon, and some guy named Marty Collins. Our SG spot is looking pretty weak so should we trade for a more descent SG at the costs of Camby?

The last possibility that I could see... You won't like it:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &cash=

I'd rather get a more defensive oriented player at the SG spot, but no one really comes to mind... unless you want Q.Ross back. Very Happy

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Whatever it is, post this under the Official Trade Ideas thread.

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^^You bet- merged.

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"If the Bobcats want Thornton, then let them throw in a draft pick." That statement is too causally cruel to even contemplate. Plus... a draft pick?! So that we could snare someone like... Korolev maybe? journeyman! I'm appalled. LOL, that's cold man!

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Maybe we can trade Thornton and Baron Davis for some more big men. I heard Brad Miller and Udonis Haslem are on the trading block. They will be toughness. Also Dunleavy loves them.

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we should trade camby for mike miller. nothing against camby, but we need a sharp shooter. their salaries are almost the same, and the trade works on the machine thingy lol. and mike miller has 2 years left on his contract, which means we will still have a chance at stoudamire or bosh. what do you guys think?

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I kind of like it...but I think I'll have to go against that. I mean come on... 3 months into this we their starting to build chemistry and the Randolph move allready took some chemistry out of this team.

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We have issues with rebounding already and Camby is our main guy for that.

Well then again we have Rudolph...

I don't know. I would be against it though, but wouldn't be outraged if it happened.

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Yeah, plus maybe Novak will get a chance to play one of these days (crossing my fingers)

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yeah i know but making that change with randolph, i thought how much worse can our chemistry get. im sure zack will completely sxrew up any chemistry we have built, so y not just add another player while your at it?

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i say if somehow possible without giving up any of our starters, gordon or jordan, try to make a deal for sean williams. he would add a lot of energy to our bench he would be a nice little addition

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Trade Thornton and Davis for big men?

Do you really want to give up our star at our weakest position

for more big men? We have plenty already, we don't need more and we can't afford to lose any more guards.

I think we should trade a big guy for a guard.

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laclippers wrote:
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Maybe we can trade Thornton and Baron Davis for some more big men. I heard Brad Miller and Udonis Haslem are on the trading block. They will be toughness. Also Dunleavy loves them.

Trade Thornton and Davis for big men?

Do you really want to give up our star at our weakest position

for more big men? We have plenty already, we don't need more and we can't afford to lose any more guards.

I think we should trade a big guy for a guard.

It was a joke. I said that because we already had enough and now we have another in randolph.

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Haha. I thought you were serious for a moment -.-

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We haven't built any chemistry so I think this whole Zach Randolph thing will help us out.

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I would trade Kaman instead of Camby...All depends on which player you can have in return but I think Camby can complement Randolph better than Kaman. I don't like to talk about trades in the middle of the season but as it seems we could make more moves I'll put a name on the table.

What about Danny Granger for Kaman??Or Joe Johnson?? Just throwing some names on the table...

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Joe Johnson is out of the question.Atlanta will not give him up.Granger maybe not anymore.Kaman is dispensable but not for those pieces.We are in a crappy position.I hope for Dunleavy it works out.This will really make him or break him..

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I know Joe Johnson is extremelly difficult but here I go with my proposition...

Kaman+Al Thornton for Joe Johnson. What do you think? Our pack is really good too. I think Atlanta would hesitate with this offer...isn't it?

We would be:

B.Diddy-EG-Joe Johnson-ZBo-Camby

I know Johnson is more a SG than a F so I should put Ricky instead of EG.

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Miquel wrote:
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Joe Johnson is out of the question.Atlanta will not give him up.Granger maybe not anymore.Kaman is dispensable but not for those pieces.We are in a crappy position.I hope for Dunleavy it works out.This will really make him or break him..

I know Joe Johnson is extremelly difficult but here I go with my proposition...

Kaman+Al Thornton for Joe Johnson. What do you think? Our pack is really good too. I think Atlanta would hesitate with this offer...isn't it?

We would be:

B.Diddy-EG-Joe Johnson-ZBo-Camby

I know Johnson is more a SG than a F so I should put Ricky instead of EG.

They will not give him up at all.That would be like us giving up Brand when we had him. The Hawks were actually considering giving is Smith for Kaman so Horford could move back to his Natural position.He does play a majority of his minutes at center when Smith is healthy.That is what baffles me about the trade for Randolph.But we could have had Redd who was on the trade block and Harrington.We took the first thing available.

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Wow. I'm smelling Vince Carter...But his contract is too long, he earns a lot of money and he's already 31. But anyways...

BDiddy-VC-Al-ZBo-Camby is simply spectacular. Once we have started trading players in the middle of the season everything is possible

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I think that we shud either trade camby or kaman and a another player on the roster for joe johson this can help us in our need for a shooting guard

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I posted this on another thread in response to a suggestion for JRich, but I wanted to move it to the right thread.

I am very critical of Kaman, but to be honest I don't want to move him. HOWEVER, considering we are overstocked down low, IF we needed to move Kaman, what about a deal of Kaman for Michael Redd, with nobodys moving to make the money work. I think it could work, as both teams get something they don't have and I believe a line up of BD, Redd, Thorton, Randolph and Camby could be EXTREEMLY productive.

One draw back is that Redd has a player option for 2010 for $18 mil plus. This would take out completely out of the 2010 running, but I think that Redd's agent might try to convince him that, because of all the money that will be thrown around in 2010, he might be able to make more than the $18 mil he'd be getting. If not, what's the worst that could happen. We hold onto a 31 year old sharp shooter and free up cap space for 2011. Lemme know your thoughts.

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Anybody ever mention Jamario Moon? I really think he could be a viable SF option that is affordable and would also help the team out. He could come off the bench for Al and provide some solid rebounding and D. He has fallen out of favor in Toronto...seems like he doesn't fit in with JO/Bosh on the court at the same time.

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Okay, personally I think we need to move either Camby or Kaman to get a reliable shooting guard.

There's no need to throw Gordon out there TOO early. Let him be the sixth man.

I'd like to grab Vince Carter or Mike Redd. Giving up Camby makes more sense, but teams may want Kaman.

Either way, we need to get rid of one. Z-Bo, Camby, and Kaman are all too good to bring off of the bench.

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The following comes from "BrandHater", a member of the site. He accidentally put this in the Submit Story area so I'm posting it here for him:


Look. This Zach Randolph trade is going to benefits the Clips in the end. Every team is going to cringe when they have to go up against Kaman and Randolph in the block and Dunleavy has already indicated that Camby will most likely come off the bench to limit his minutes anyways. Baron will benefit Randolph's game with his dribble penetration giving him easy baskets. If you haven't seen a Knicks game, Randolph is actually playing better than Brand so it might be a blessing in disguise. We do need to address the Ricky Davis problem immediately. He has had only had one good game this year (against Sacramento) and I just don't think he fits in with the team. I would trade Ricky Davis and Brian Skinner for a competent shooting guard. In the meantime I would put my faith in Eric Gordon and Steve Novak. Novak is deadly from 3 point-range and should be put in more so he can spread the defense. B. Davis, Thornton, Camby and Kaman are all playing good right now so I wouldn't worry about them. You'll start to see more Ws once we get Randolph.

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Incoming Players

Nick Young

6-6 SG from USC

13.4 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 1.6 apg in 26.2 minutes

Antawn Jamison

6-9 SF / PF from North Carolina

20.3 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 1.7 apg in 38.4 minutes

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Jason Hart

6-2 PG from Syracuse

1.9 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 11.0 minutes

Chris Kaman

7-0 C from Central Michigan

14.5 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 1.9 apg in 37.0 minutes

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I tried it on Realgm. Breaking it down though this might have been the answer. Move Camby to center, Jamison at the power forward. Nick young to back up Al at the three spot. But best of all we would still have all the flexibility in 2010 when Marcus, Thomas and Camby came off the books.

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Next time, put under Official Trade Ideas Thread.

I'm pretty sure the Wiz are high on both Young and Jamison. But I like the way this trade looks for our side, if it were ever a possibility.

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Thanks for the head up Journey!

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