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was at hoopsworld.com today for a chat with one of the writers, and a lot of people kept mentioning that the bucks need some more athleticism in the post and still have redd to give away when the right deal comes along. so, someone asked what the guy thought about a camby for redd trade. i kind of like it. we clear up some space in the post and get back a great shooter. of course, i still want to see what this team can do with all 3 of our big men

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That would be badass, however I don't think they would do that nor would the salaries match I think...I didn't fact check but I can't imagine both players make the same. Camby is really good, but getting old. Redd is a down right scorer...the guy can go for 40 a night is he wanted too. I mean I would for sure do this trade ( I really like Camby, don't get me wrong...he has been the only consistant guy this year so far) but to trade for Redd....Um YES PLEASE! Smile

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I was reading the chat as well. I think we'd have to throw in some picks. Come December 15th a package of Camby, Ricky, and Novak would get this deal done. Redd would be an ideal fit for me. Someone that could really space the floor for us. He'd also be a great teacher for Gordon. The only drawback is that his contract is huge.

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but with baron, redd, thornton, randolph, and kaman we would be a championship contending team. only 1 question, who will be the scorer? who will be the one getting the ball on every possesion. see, for the lakers, kobe and gasol are the main scorers , bynum too. fish and radman doont look to score, but only do so when they have a wide open shot. so would we start deandre jordan and bring kaman off the bench, just like the way the lakers are bringing odom off the bench? if it's like this, than we will be championship contenders with redd, and maybe we can pick up a couple of bench players.

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I'd like to worry about this problem when the time comes. This deal in my mind has slim to no chance of happening however. Thinking about it though gets me all bubbly.

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just saw the thread talking about kamans return, and i feel that if it doesnt work out, we could trade him for some defense and depth off the bench. this trade popped into my head- kaman and another filler if needed for raja bell (defense and role player) and gerald wallace (wallace would need to be okay with coming off the bench, and would push al thornton to keep his starting job)

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Raja would be perfect if he were 5-6 years younger. He plays great defense and can nail the open 3. But why impede on Gordon's progress at this point? Bell is a good piece for a team looking to get far in the playoffs and right now, .500 looks like a huge mountain. Perhaps if next year, the team is clicking and we need depth at the wing, then someone like Bell would be an option worth exploring.

I still want to see how a player of Kaman's caliber responds off the bench. But here is one trade suggestion i modestly propose:

Kaman for Hinrich and Sefolosha.

Hinrich would be an expensive but high-quality backup who can be subbed in for defensive purposes and also play SG. He's big, so he can play with Baron at the same time. When Baron sits, Hinrich could come in and the offense wouldn't miss a beat. And Sefolosha gives us a wing who can shoot and play good D (according to Skiles, who knows something about D). He's a guy who can back up Gordon and Thornton.

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In response to journeymans trade kaman for hinrich and sefolosha, though i like hinrich he's going to be out for a little while with a hand injury so that doesn't really help us now, can't really give an evaluation on sefolosha. i never really followed him and don't know what he brings to the table. but i would hold out and wait till kaman and ricky d come back and see what they've got. i still believe ricky can do some good coming off the bench. or unless a can't pass up type deal falls in our lap (again) z-bo, we still we need a solid back up in case camby can't make it through the whole season.

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Until a week ago, I would have demanded Tyrus Thomas in Kaman to Chicago trade. In any case, LAC should be demanding a pretty high price. Kaman's market value is pretty high. I don't want to see him traded, but we should hold out for a rich package.

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A trade that works money wise. We should trade Chris Kaman with these players, Brian Skinner, Jason Hart, Ricky Davis, Paul Davis, and Mike Taylor and our first round picks, including Minesotas unprotected 2011, our 2009, 2010 to Detroit for the right to T. Prince and Rip Hamilton. It works on Espn trade machine. Mardy Collins is not allowed to be traded do to a trade clause. Both teams win. We get two proven all star vets that can't leave our team because they would be with us for three years and five years. Detroit would get cap flexibility....

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Huh? 7 players for 2? Great! where do we get the other players to fill the roster?

Dude, your threads have been nothing but the same thing over and over. Notice a pattern?

Kaman deserves to have pay taken. Would you trade him?

I would trade Thorton at the end of the year.

Make Baron a player/coach. Fire Dunlevy

By the way, stop putting these threads on the Clippers game day portion of the board. Put them in the section it pertains to...please.

Then you wonder why you can't find your threads?

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http://clippers.topbuzz.com/PNphpBB2-vi ... -1593.html

elton_sucks42
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close this up joe.

Clipperfn4lf
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im all for tay

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We would only have 8 players if we were to do this trade.We would be in the same predicament.

ekker3
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lets trade baron, al, gordon, camby, randolph, ricky, and kaman for lebron.

then we could go:

pg-jason hart

sg- mardy collins

sf - LEBRON JAMES!!! OMG! WTF!!

pf - paul davis

c - deandre jordan

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LMAOOOO

that was a good one lol

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A trade that works money wise. We should trade Chris Kaman with these players, Brian Skinner, Jason Hart, Ricky Davis, Paul Davis, and Mike Taylor and our first round picks, including Minesotas unprotected 2011, our 2009, 2010 to Detroit for the right to T. Prince and Rip Hamilton. It works on Espn trade machine. Mardy Collins is not allowed to be traded do to a trade clause. Both teams win. We get two proven all star vets that can't leave our team because they would be with us for three years and five years. Detroit would get cap flexibility....

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That is the dumbest s**t I've heard on this thread since I've been here.

This is getting out of hand. Everyone complains about f**king everything. Seriously how the hell do you people deal with life's problems? Some of you guys think so irrationally. So whats this guys solution? Trade 6 players for 2 AND while we're at it give them 2009, 2010, and 2011 first round picks.......YAY now our bench is even stronger with 2 players available. We're definitely contenders now.

Why is this thread still active.

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Dude your stupid. The Piston won't have any room for all of them. And why trade??? It's only been 5 months!!! Let them get used to each other. The Lakers didn't take 5 months to become what they are now!!! 2 years it took them! Except Pau. He came in a year and a half after. But thats only one player. We have 13 new players! Thats a huge difference. Please close this Joe or David. This makes me sick.

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LMAO... So true.. Very Happy:

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LMAOOOOO

LeBron James OMG!!! WTF!!!

LMAOOOOOOOOOOLOO!

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No offence, but some people on this board seem to be really stupid. How could you not want the possibility of making your team better adding those players. The only person that seems to have half a brain on this site is Clipper Starter. I probably going to leave this site because I don't like the idiots on it. No wonder Laker fans make fun of us. Half are fans are stupid. How in the heck could you say that that is a bad trade. Ya, we lose 8 players, but we could resign them once Detroit buys them out on the roster.

A lot of you on this board love Thorton. It show that you never played basketball or when you play your the idiot that respects a ball hog chuck it up. You lack basketball IQ. Some of you are smart, but a lot of the people on this board lack basketball knowledge and I don't want to have conversations with people under the age of twenty, Clipper starter seems to have half a brain. I suspect he is a little older.

Any person that would turn down a trade for Kaman and our scrubs (cap flexibility) and picks for Prince and Rip don't understand basketball of our band wagon fans. We have been rebuilding for 10 to 15 years. Its time to win.

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No offense, but you don't seem to be understanding our problem.

WHAT'S OUR PROBLEM? It's not a lack of talent. So what is it then, Mr. TheCalmInsanity?!

OUR BENCH.

Our bench has been getting like 6 points, 10 points, 8 points every game while every single one of our starters plays 40 minutes+. WE DON'T NEED ANY OTHER STARTERS our starting lineup is one of the craziest ones in the NBA!! We have Baron Davis as point guard. We have an AWESOME rookie named Eric Gordon at shooting guard. We have Al Thornton at small forward. We have an unstoppable scorer named Zach Randolph at the 4. We have a former defensive player of the year at center.

Who do we have off the bench? Oh yeah.. Steve Novak, Mardy Collins, Paul Davis, and Brian Skinner.

So you're saying, let's make our starting 5 EVEN STRONGER, and as thin as our bench is, make it EVEN THINNER?!

Who's the one that doesn't understand basketball NOW?

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Oh and by the way, having 8 players on your roster is not anything close to "becoming a contender". Why do you think all the contenders have 12 man rotations?? Every single player has their role on those teams. So you're saying the Clippers with 3 people on the bench will contend? What happens when one of them gets injured?? We'll forfeit the rest of the season unless one of them plays injured (8 is the league minimum)

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Ummm I think your the one without a brain. Most of us here are Clipper starters. So get it straight. Thats our rank.

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clippersblue wrote:
No offence, but some people on this board seem to be really stupid. How could you not want the possibility of making your team better adding those players. The only person that seems to have half a brain on this site is Clipper Starter.

I understand you think half of us are stupid but can I ask you who is Clipper starter? I don't think there is anyone by that name here. I think you are reading the member ranking right under the actual screen name.

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I probably going to leave this site because I don't like the idiots on it. No wonder Laker fans make fun of us. Half are fans are stupid. How in the heck could you say that that is a bad trade. Ya, we lose 8 players, but we could resign them once Detroit buys them out on the roster.

I don't think a team can trade for extra players that will take them over the 15 player roster. Meaning that if the Pistons send 2 players out when they had a 15 man roster to capacity, they can't take more than 2 players back (unless a third party/team is involved). They would have to make space for the others before they can take them in. Your trade would make the Pistons let go of 5 players before they can take them in. That is virtually impossible.

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Trade hard to pull off.

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duplicate post. Embarassed

Icecoldclipper
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This offseason has to be about bench fixing. As much as I'm looking forward to Kaman and Ricky return still think we are missing a piece a solid perimeter defender.

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so why isnt this under "the official trade ideas" thread again?

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Merged w/ the official trade thread. And please do not insult anyone here- attacks like that are strongly prohibited here:

http://clippers.topbuzz.com/PNphpBB2-vi ... -1593.html

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Well our highest paid players are:

Camby

Baron

Zach

Kaman

When I look at those 4 names, the one that doesn't fit is "Baron". Those big men are not part of a run-n-gun, throw-the-ball-up-and-it-might-go-in offense. There are teams out there that are desperate for point guards and we could take advantage of them. One that comes to mind is the Lakers.

The great part about trading Baron to the Lakers is that we won't be helping, but actually hurting their championship hopes. Once they realize it, it will be too late. I say Farmar and Odom for Baron. That way we have a point guard for the future, and Odom will be off the books after this year. Thoughts??????

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i like your point on which name doesnt fit, and overall an interesting idea, but im not ready to trade bdizzle after less then 30 games

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Uh, just to clarify a point... I *ominous organ chords* am Clipper Starter! *horns blaring* Yeah, yeah. It's me. In the "I Would Trade Thornton By The End of The Year" thread, clippersblue started calling me Clipper Starter, and though I tried to disabuse him(?) of that notion, my reference fell on deaf ears, or would that be blind eyes? Anyway, it didn't take. So that's it. I'm Clipper Starter. At least I think that's how it went... after all, I only have half a brain so how can I be certain?

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I gotta say, that Farmar/Odom for Baron deal would be awfully tempting. teamfriend is probably right, it's a little early to close the book on Baron, but I like Farmar, and have been kinda alarmed about some of the things Baron has done. Baron is no doubt hugely talented, it's more a question of decision making, and maybe realizing that leadership doesn't mean a constant spotlight. Jordan (Michael) didn't win it all until he trusted his "lesser" teammates. Baron has to become that kind of leader.

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dont lie, im Clipper Starter Wink

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dwb LAL has DFish and do you really want Odom? He'd end up being a back up SF

BTW the stupidist thing on this post was not above, it was my line up :Kaman, 5 Camby4 , ZBo 3, Gordon 2 and BD The only 1 . This isn't half brained, it's no brained Smile

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omg i found on hooporld that the clippers have offered kaman and hart for LeBron James.. Can this be the best steal ever!!???

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"dwb LAL has DFish and do you really want Odom? He'd end up being a back up SF"

He'd probably back up both forward positions, and he's an effective passer, some point forward play would take that much more pressure off Baron. But with Farmar down, the deal loses some of it's luster. Actually what I really want is for Baron to play to his potential, which is considerable. It's almost Al's story, I don't mind Baron's putting up the number of shots he takes, I just wish he'd take it to the rack more often than launch the deep three. When Kaman returns, hopefully another benefit will be that Baron will look more underneath and not be quite as inclined to fire away.

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LMFOFOAOO DUUDUEE!!!

I HEARD WE OFFERED DUNLEAVY AND A PACK OF FROZEN BALLPARK FRANKS FOR CHRIS PAUL AND THE BETTER BASKETBALL DVD'S!!!

PAUL + JAMES>?!>!@!!!!

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i say we would become the western style of the Celtics. Hope the rumors are true Very Happy

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Omg!!! I heard hat we're trading MDsr and Kim Hughes for Phil Jackson and his assistant will be Doc Rivers! Omg, Championship team right hur!!!

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somehow think we would still lose lol

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A trade that works money wise. We should trade Chris Kaman with these players, Brian Skinner, Jason Hart, Ricky Davis, Paul Davis, and Mike Taylor and our first round picks, including Minesotas unprotected 2011, our 2009, 2010 to Detroit for the right to T. Prince and Rip Hamilton. It works on Espn trade machine. Mardy Collins is not allowed to be traded do to a trade clause. Both teams win. We get two proven all star vets that can't leave our team because they would be with us for three years and five years. Detroit would get cap flexibility....

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^^^Baron losing weight seems to be the problem this season. He doesn't look strong at all he can't post his man down and his strength in getting to the basket is a huge drop off. Baron use to be able to draw contact on a daily basis and finish, now he can't finish easy buckets. His big size was an advantage because he still was a fast guy now he's slimmer and less powerful.

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Amen. How many easy layups has he missed? Quite a few

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Kaman for any1 not injured

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We are never going to win with Baron. We might as well move him before everyone else realizes what a bum he is. Here's my great idea for the day.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &cash=

Philly gets the scoing PG that could turn around their season. Baron gets his wish to play with Elton. Let them rot together.

Portland gets the big time pass first PG that they need. They have been well rumored to want a veteran PG to run the show.

We get rid of Baron's awful play and contract. Bayless and Gordon become our back court of the future.

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^^That's an interesting idea you got there, but I would hold out for something better. I like Jerryd Bayless, I just don't know if 2-Guards that are stuck in a 1-Guard's body can succeed in this league.

I would use your original idea and maybe go to a struggling team that has bonafide future stars, i.e. Oklahoma City. Russell Westbrook, Gerald Green, wouldn't mind having players like them

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i really don't think Baron would fetch all that much. Most teams don't want to take on a contract like his. I'd be happy to get rid of him for someone like Bayless or future picks. The cap space we could get next year by getting someone like LaFrentz could be valuable as well.

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