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Clippersfan86
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I know this is EXTREMELY far fetched but i wouldn't be apposed to trading BD,Thornton and Gordon for Dwight and maybe JJ. I know it seems like a big loss but we all know Howard is on his way to becoming the best player in the NBA. I think by next year he will win MVP and replace Lebron as the best player in the league. He's got amazing work ethic and attitude as well. I would do it in a heartbeat but i doubt Orlando would budge. What would you guys do?? Howard and Zbo would be a beastly 2 man punch.

Clippersfan86
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Even better if we can move Kaman for a solid shooting guard after that trade. Like Kaman for Iguodala or something

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Orlando.

Would.

Not.

Give.

Up.

Howard.

It doesn't work that way man. Even if the trade is a good one, Howard is what- 22 years old? He's their franchise player. No way in hell they'd trade him...

At this point, if I was Orlando, I wouldn't even take Kobe for him. The only person I'd take for him is LeBron James. That's cause they both have worlds of potential.

Dwight is gona be spectacular. I wish he was in a Clipper uniform.

Clippersfan86
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Pg-Mike Taylor

Sg-Iguodala

Sf- Unknown

Pf-Zbo,Camby

C- Dwight Howard.

That lineup will probably be even deadly than our current.

Clippersfan86
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I know Insanity ;' (. Wishful thinking.. Why do we never seem to draft the amazing superstars? Like Kobe,Wade,Lebron,Stoudemire,Dwight,CP3??? Seems we never draft hardcore all star level players ... Even when we have number 1 picks. In 2002 we grabbed Wilcox instead of Amare Stoudemire or Caron Butler... Imagine if we grabbed Amare?? Maybe we need to blame scouting people on our team.. I can name at least 5 drafts where we picked average players over all stars. I know it's hard to tell before drafts but even in videos and stats Amare looked better than Wilcox in HS. In 99 we grabbed Pot head Odom over Marion,Rip Hamilton, Artest, AK47 and Ginobili

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Wilcox was coming of winning a national championship. He was one of the main people behind that Maryland team.

Clippersfan86
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Yea very true.. His stats weren't incredible though. 3 ppg first season at Maryland 12 his next one. Amare already had publicity coming out of high school as being a beast. During tryouts and scouting the Clippers should have noticed.. They picked Wilcox because of athleticism but Amare is even more athletic lol. Amare averaged 29.1 points, 15 rebounds and 6.1 blocked shots a game. Even in high school that's very impressive.

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people seem to think trades in real life work like trades in video games

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Isn't this thread kind of pointless? Here is why:

  1. Howard is not going ANYWHERE!

  2. There is absolutely no hint that he is on the trading block

  3. Even if there was a remote chance of acquiring Howard, the trade you proposed would leave us with so many BIGS that we would have to eventually put Camby at the SG or PG spot.

    Howard is a great Center and does his job well BUT I wouldn't trade for him. He is a poor foul shooter and is nothing more than a dunker. You double on him ( big & small) and he will have trouble. Just look at his last game, he was schooled by Wallace ( Pistons) and i think Stuckey. Wallace had to blocks on Howard. he was held to I think 1 point in the first half. He did get 18/18 by the end of the game but that was because other players started making their shots so the dbl team was hard to come by. Until I can see him make an outside shot, he is just Center with extraordinary physical skills. I'll still take camby over him just on effort. Howard's effort is still suspect.

  • I was going to move this to the trade thread but I will leave it up to david to see if he wants to move it.
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well said. I think the same of Howard. He's a beast physically, but his skill level is not where it could and should be at offensively.

Clippersfan86
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Joe don't lie you know you would take Howard! ; ). Number i wish it did work how it did in video games lol. I would be the best GM in the history of the world. I put together some nasty teams in NBA live 09. You guys are in denial if you think Howard is only a physical specimen. 20 ppg, 13.8 rpg, 3.7 bpg and 1 spg tells me otherwise. Shaq only dunked too but he is considered a top 2 center of all time by most people and also shoots poorly from free throw and the outside. Wilt also shot poorly from those spots. Howard ranks i believe 3rd or 4th in the PER efficiency ratings in the league this year. If he's putting up these numbers with an average offensive game imagine him as he keeps improving. Youngest player ever to snatch 3000 rebounds as well. The guy will be putting up 23 ppg, 14.5 rpg and 3-4 blocks next year.. watch out. He isn't perfect but definitely a top 5 player.

Lebron,Kobe,Wade,CP3 and Dwight are the 5 elite players in this league.

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Ooookay- why don't we get Garnett and Pierce and Kobe Bryant too while we're at it?

Merged with trade ideas thread.

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I'm sure this will get moved to the "offical trade idea thread" but I'm to lazy to go searching for it right now, so ill let the admin do it hehe, but I thought this was a good idea perhaps...

and if anyone has done this or a simlar trade sorry, i didn't see it.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &cash=

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I'm sure this will get moved to the "offical trade idea thread" but I'm to lazy to go searching for it right now, so ill let the admin do it hehe, but I thought this was a good idea perhaps...

and if anyone has done this or a simlar trade sorry, i didn't see it.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &cash=

ReliveThe3PEAT
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Crap...

I found the link to the thread but I cant post URLs yet.

LOL

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yeah but this is the least of what we need, anotehr shoot first guy. eric gordon, al thornton, and zach randolph along with kaman can be our shoot first guys. we need a team player PG

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I'd move Kaman and Ricky for Redd, but getting a great 3 point shooter and trading Baron would leave us with gaping hole at PG.

Maybe we could then move Kaman for Felton and change.

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yea im down for whatever, but i do think a major change is in store....If i see another 3-14 or 6-22 shooting night by BD again, im going to scream! lol

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We wont trade baron and if we are to improve we need to trade kaman, or camby for 2 good bench players.

Clipperfn4lf
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Lets trade our next 10 first round picks for Dwight Howard and Rashard Lewis

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2 starters for two bench players.

come on man

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i am sorry i didn't see the "or"

but still.

we can be such a good team.

the pieces are there

sz123456
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Keep in mind that Dunleavy is the GM and he likes Kaman and Camby, not Baron

cashdld
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I think we should trade either kaman or canny for trashuan prince and a and a energy player coming off the bench . we could start prince have al come off the bench as out sixth man it will give I'd depth and another wing

Here a possible depth chart

Davis/hart/Taylor

Gordon/jones/Collins

Prince/Thornton/Davis/

Randolph/Davis/thorton

Camby or kAman/skinner/Jordan

clipper321
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Can we please stop talking about trades that will NEVER happen! At least be realistic here I mean common!

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sz123456 wrote:
Clipperfn4lf wrote:
We wont trade baron and if we are to improve we need to trade kaman, or camby for 2 good bench players.

Keep in mind that Dunleavy is the GM and he likes Kaman and Camby, not Baron

I find that so hard to believe.

He got Baron, Baron didn't Drop in his lap.

Baron came here knowing what Dunleavy is all about,

even despite the Brand/Davis BS

Clippersfan86
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I know this is gonna sound ridiculous but in NBA live 09 the Hornets keep offering Tyson Chandler for Kaman. It always produces more wins in the game than keeping Kaman. I know for a damn fact it would be an upgrade. When Camby retires we would have the next coming of Camby in the sense that Chandler rebounds and blocks shots like a monster. He's about a year and a half younger than Kaman too. What do you guys think??? We would be getting a 26 year old Camby basically. Oh lol the Heat just offered me Michael Beasley and Mark Blount for Zach Randolph. I wish they would do that in real life!!! We would be scary with Beasley and Gordon as our future stars

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Since this thread has no legitimate source and just an idea, this is going to be moved to it's proper location:

OFFICIAL TRADE IDEAS

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This is the place where you can just mess around with the ESPN time machine and show other clipperfans what you think would be a good trade.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine

P.S. Thank numb3rfifty for showing me this link. I know everyone probably knows about this already. But these past weeks this forum has been really down like every one is just sad/mad that we aren't playing well. And so I found away to just have fun here in this forum.

So I like this trade right here:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &cash=

Give me your feedback on this. And post another trade that you may like.

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I would take that in a heartbeat...

too bad 90% of this forum doesn't want to see Monta in a Clipper uniform if it means giving ANYTHING up...

http://clippers.topbuzz.com/PNphpBB2-vi ... -2618.html

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players id like to build around: gordon, kaman, randolph (we're kinda stuck with his contract)

players id be willing to ship out: baron, thornton, camby (and anyone else)

players id be interested in bringing in:

jose calderon

ronnie brewer

danny granger

tayshaun prince

raja bell

shane battier

cj miles

matt barnes

anthony parker

...paul davis

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by the way,

Will Conroy's D-League stats: 24.7pts, 7.6 assists, 4.4 rebs, 2.6 steals, 47% FG

why the heck not?

Clipperfn4lf
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for some reason if we some how got LBJ he would end up sucking because being a clipper brings the worst out of eveery1

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oh yah i miss conroy he was one of my favorite d-league pick ups last year when we had like a million 10 day contracts

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No way?! It did that for me in my association mode for 2k9. I traded chandler for kaman and I have marcus coming of the bench. Nice three man rotation in my game with z-bo, camby, and chandler.

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elton_sucks42 wrote:
Clippersfan86 wrote:
I know this is gonna sound ridiculous but in NBA live 09 the Hornets keep offering Tyson Chandler for Kaman. It always produces more wins in the game than keeping Kaman. I know for a damn fact it would be an upgrade. When Camby retires we would have the next coming of Camby in the sense that Chandler rebounds and blocks shots like a monster. He's about a year and a half younger than Kaman too. What do you guys think??? We would be getting a 26 year old Camby basically. Oh lol the Heat just offered me Michael Beasley and Mark Blount for Zach Randolph. I wish they would do that in real life!!! We would be scary with Beasley and Gordon as our future stars

No way?! It did that for me in my association mode for 2k9. I traded chandler for kaman and I have marcus coming of the bench. Nice three man rotation in my game with z-bo, camby, and chandler.

im sure if you really wanted, you could have jason hart go for 30 points a game in a video game.

tyson chandler has NO GAME. he's pretty much a veteran version of deandre jordan. he'll take care of any dunks/rebounds in the paint but other than that he's useless. no offensive game whatsoever.

kaman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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chandler is garbage. all he needs is to catch lobs from cp3. he has no post up game or face up jumper. i think he should donate 3/4 of his paycheck to cp3 for making him look like he even deserves to be in the nba.

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Didn't want to make a whole new thread but saw this on hoops world so thought I'd throw it in here.

The Clippers are in the midst of a ten-game losing streak, and the Cavaliers might benefit from making a run at the center. Some around the league believe that the Cavaliers might be able to land Camby for a deal centered around Wally Szczerbiak and a first-round draft pick.

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... cleveland/

Again we can do much better than this. The first rounder would be useless in this years draft as it seems to be a very weak one and we really don't need Wally. Novak can more or less produce what Wally can.

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Can't these writers ever come up with trade rumors that would benefit us?? Camby for Wally? Who would be dumb enough to do that besides Kevin McHale??

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I know it's crazy. These writers clearly have some bias for these other teams and bring up these "rumors". They clearly benefit their favored team leaving us with a mediocre, at best, aging player. The only real rumor that favored us as well as the other team was the whole J-Rich and/or Wallace for Kaman and some fillers.

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What about Trading Chris Kaman and 2nd round pick for Lou Deng and Kirk Hinrich?

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Trade wouldn't even work, we'd be over the salery cap by a lot. Hinrick alone is being paid more than Chris and Deng is just below Kaman. Would be a pretty good deal for us and it would work out for them seeing as they need a low post scorer and want to unload Hinrich

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besides, come 2010 camby would be gone and we'd have a GAPING hole to fill a center.

ekker3
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and another thing, look at camby's games played per season (since he entered the league):

63

63

46

59

63

29

72

66

56

70

79

(it averages out to him missing about 22 games per year).

he's getting older and we cant just expect he'll last an entire season (with this much energy) without getting injured. he'll he already missed preseason and the start of the regular season.

now imagine camby goes down if kaman is traded. are you comfortable with skinner, samb, or deandre filling in long term? oh me oh my.

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I STILL don't understand this "trade Kaman" talk. Dunleavy said way back (well considering the losses a month and a half seems a long time now) when we first got Zach that we needed a second low post scoring option, ie Randolph AND Kaman. As in if one went down to injury it'd be nice to have the other available. And hasn't it been... or at least, wasn't it, for a while? Well, you see what has happened without that low post scoring from either guy. That same logic works not only for big man scoring, it works for strictly center play. I think that ekker3's "22 missed games a year" stat for Camby is a little misleading... Camby missed the vast majority of that negative average in ONE season with a BIG injury and since then has been pretty durable, but still, having two centers of quality is an amazing luxury. CK is an extremely valuable piece of any successful team puzzle. It's not like multi-talented bigs just drop out of trees any time you happen to need one. Truly talented point guards and centers are the two most highly prized and difficult to find positions to fill in the league. Why there is continued forum noise for us to trade away this hard to find and relatively rare commodity? If and when DeAndre (or Samb?) shows that he can carry 30 minutes with some viable production, THEN maybe you'd look to move CK or Marcus depending on what kind of deal could be made, but for now moving either would only invite potential disaster. Um... or maybe make that WORSE disaster? Continued disaster? If Kaman had been playing all this time and we'd been reaping the benefit of that effort I would wager that there would be a LOT less "trade Kaman" talk in the forum.

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Completely agree DWB and that's why, at least some of us, have always been so frustrated with these trade scenarios. As you stated having a quality big who can play both offense and defense is hard to come by and Chris is just that. These trades never give the value of what kaman is really worth. Why do you think at one point half the league was looking to make something happen to get Kaman? I've always been for waiting to see how all 3 play together when healthy. I think we'll all be pleasantly surprised at how dominant we'll become. I mean Chris or Camby or Zach coming off the bench....that's a luxury I see no team having but us.

And I'm hopeful Jordan can start becoming a role playing big soon. If Jordan is able to play a quality 15-20 minutes sometime within this season and the next, making a trade wouldn't be a bad idea. Jordan would in theory be able to handle the spot left by Camby or Chris and we'd get either 1 great piece in return or grow stronger in our depth.

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im with both of you dwb and clipps04... if all goes right(and it almost never does), in a month or so we may finally get to see:

b.davis

gordon

thornton

z-bo

camby


kaman

r.davis

m.taylor

collins

f.jones

novak

dj

hart

man, thats 13 guys, i wonder who goes?? but still, cant wait to see it, i sure hope one day soon we do.

teamfiend
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whoops, sorry just read calms great, thourough, much more detailed and better post on his own thread. refer to that one instead of the one above wink

Clipperfn4lf
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Two big names of the trading block are T MAC and Josh Howard. If we put camby and novak back to houston you think they will give us Tracy?

sz123456
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Where did you hear that T Mac is on the trading block??? I can understand Howard, but I've never heard anything about McGrady

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