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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 422619by Laak » Dec 22, 2013 - 03:33 PM PST
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Give a 2nd rounder + BJ to Raps for Amir Johnson.



                
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Post ID: 422620by CapsNClips » Dec 22, 2013 - 03:57 PM PST
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You do know Masai Ujiri gets paid to manage his team in a positive way, right?

                
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Post ID: 422623by cleepers » Dec 22, 2013 - 04:15 PM PST
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And if they say no, go back with a better offer... a 2nd rounder ONLY!

Mullens is the only "BJ" that no man is interested in getting.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 422624by Laak » Dec 22, 2013 - 04:22 PM PST
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Just throwing out something for Amir... Not saying it's a fair trade. Raps still haven't decided if they want to tank or go for playoffs. Tanking might be the best way for the team and Masai knows it. Raps need draft picks to rebuild, Amir's a solid hustle player that Clips need.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 422625by cleepers » Dec 22, 2013 - 04:23 PM PST
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^ I like him too. I think he'd fit well with the 2nd unit, but NOBODY'S Taking Mullens off our hands.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 422626by CP3Best » Dec 22, 2013 - 05:02 PM PST
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Why fix something that ain't broken? Were just FINALLY after two months starting to kick on all defense and offensive cylinders, and y'all want to make a trade? Redick isn't even back for us, and were ripping teams, Chill

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 422627by Kingkanyon » Dec 22, 2013 - 05:06 PM PST
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We can't trade any 2nd round picks because we technically don't own any, and a strait up trade for Mullens for Amir Johnson can't be completed because Amir makes around 5 to 6 million and Mullens makes 1.3 million, we have a trade exception but only for about 2.5 million but that's about it. Raptors would do that trade since they're shredding salary and Mullens is a viable trade piece since his contract is fairly low, it's a 2 year deal, and I think the 2nd year is non guaranteed. Plus if they blow up their Team then they would be trying to Tank for Jabari, witch means they don't want world beater's.

                
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Post ID: 422628by Silasie » Dec 22, 2013 - 05:11 PM PST
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The talk is of trading a player that never plays, and getting a decent back up big is probably going to complete a team that is coming together. I don't see why this is a problem.

                
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Post ID: 422631by cleepers » Dec 22, 2013 - 05:55 PM PST
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Fair enough... Mullens' removal from the rotation has coincided with us "kicking on all cylinders" and "ripping teams", and we've been VERY lucky our bigs have been healthy... but maybe it's just bad JuJu to trade a victory cigar for some much-needed insurance up front.

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Post ID: 422638by tense2 » Dec 22, 2013 - 07:39 PM PST
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Amir is someone I'd love to have, BUT; 1. He makes 6.5 mil. 2. Cannot combine the TE with a player in a trade. 3. It would probably have to include at least 2 players (most likely from the wings to make the $ match) from us not named Mullins. 4. We are very close to the "hard" cap and that puts a damper on some deals we may want to do.

                
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Post ID: 423132by Agent0 » Dec 23, 2013 - 04:11 PM PST
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The Raptors just dumped Bargnani, no way they would want the homeless man's version, even if the contracts worked.

They are trying to make the playoffs and are 4-1 since trading the chucker Rudy Gay.

                
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Post ID: 423218by TheDude » Dec 24, 2013 - 10:45 AM PST
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You really think the GM wants to make the PO's? I think he's pissed every time they win and will continue to shred that roster until they're sufficiently bad.

Mullens is a good bet in that case. He's been largely useless, check. He's cheap, check. He's still young with some potential to get better some day, check. Seems like a good match. There's not much on that team I'd want other than Amir or JV but who knows.

                
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Post ID: 423219by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 24, 2013 - 10:50 AM PST
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I wouldn't mind Hansbrough.

Btw I don't think the Raptors want to make the playoffs. Its just that their team right now is too good to tank and even though Rudy Gay was helping them lose you shouldn't give up the opportunity to dump him just for the sake of tanking.

                
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Post ID: 423313by Agent0 » Dec 25, 2013 - 10:57 AM PST
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They are at a weird position. They want a good pick, but they also want to be competitive. You have to understand the conflict there because the fans have witnessed a lot of poor teams, so they don't want to continue down that path, but also want to have a chance at Andrew.

If he wanted to loose though, trading Gay is a terrible way to accomplish that. Gay was killing their offense. Trading a turnover prone chucker doesn't help you loose more games as their offense is better now, and Gay wasn't doing anything note-worthy on defense.

The players they are trying to trade are Lowry first, then maybe DeRozan. Amir is one of those nice value guys that teams don't look to trade just for then sake of doing so.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 423314by Agent0 » Dec 25, 2013 - 11:00 AM PST
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LAC trades: Willie Green

Atlanta trades: Gustavo Ayon

That's a trade that can help the Clippers, but doesn't really do much for ATL

                
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Post ID: 423320by pageC4 » Dec 25, 2013 - 11:26 AM PST
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Exactly, we already see that with him getting any minutes at all is bad. He's just sitting on the bench so it makes sense to trade him for...anybody

                
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Post ID: 423321by pageC4 » Dec 25, 2013 - 11:32 AM PST
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In that regard yes, there may be some value to Mullens. What surprises me is how Toronto keeps rebuilding and rebuilding. Was't Rudy Gay supposed to be the centerpiece to this new direction the team was supposed to have

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 423322by ClipperKyle32 » Dec 25, 2013 - 11:33 AM PST
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Los Angeles is still a threat to poach Carmelo Anthony from the New York Knicks. It's just not the Hollywood-based team you're thinking of.

According to Hoopsworld's Steve Kyler, the Los Angeles Clippers-not Los Angeles Lakers-are the Knicks' biggest threat to keeping 'Melo:

As one insider said last night after the game, the idea of Anthony leaving the Knicks isn't talked about in the abstract around the team. It's talked about as though it's going to happen.

While free agency is a long way away and there is lots of basketball left to be played, the team that most fans and media peg as Anthony's likely destination is the LA Lakers, however insiders around the Knicks and Carmelo peg the LA Clippers as more likely to land Anthony if he leaves the Knicks.

@HowardBeck One slight problem with "Carmelo to Clippers" in 2014 rumors: Clippers have no cap room. Little chance of getting under, either. @HowardBeck To all those proposing LAC sign-and-trade for Melo: Knicks would only do that if he was a threat to sign there outright. And he can't.

The Clippers already have over $71 million in guaranteed salary on the books for next season, per ShamSports.com, meaning Anthony can only arrive via trade. Knicks owner James Dolan isn't one for trading away superstars-he prefers to overpay them-so it's difficult to imagine New York dealing Anthony before the season is out.

Anthony could always put the screws to New York, but he then risks immersing himself in another public relations fiasco, similar to the pickle he was in with the Denver Nuggets.

Nothing can be ruled out at this point. Again, it's still too early. However, if 'Melo wants to join forces with Chris Paul in Los Angeles, it's going to take a lot more than "anything's possible" to actually make it happen. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1901063-la-clippers-reportedly-ny-k nicks-biggest-threat-to-keeping-carmelo-anthony

People keep insisting that the Clippers are the biggest threat to get Carmelo Anthony via trade or free agency! I mean I wouldn't mind him I mean who wouldn't want him? I think he is that SF that we need that all contenders have! OKC - Durant MIA - Lebron! I mean I look at it this way! Chris Paul - Rondo JJ Redick - Ray Allen Carmelo Anthony - Paul Pierce Blake Griffin - KG

But I still do not want Melo cause I feel he is coming out of his prime almost! It would be awesome if he took a huge pay cut in free agency to play with us and we don't give up anybody! Only way i want him is free-agency! ABSOLUTELY NO GIVING UP ANY YOUNG PLAYERS ( Blake Griffin Mostly ) it seems like it won't happen and I am kind of glad! I have extreme mixed feelings about this! What do you guys think?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 423323by jarca » Dec 25, 2013 - 11:43 AM PST
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If we get melo by trading BG then it's gonna be hard for me to root for this team. Don't turn back on the player who turned the franchise around

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 423326by Laak » Dec 25, 2013 - 12:36 PM PST
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Raps are taking a wait and see approach at the moment. Though tanking's probably the best option. Maybe throw in Barnes, BJ, future 2nd for Amir? We have too many wing players.

                
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Post ID: 423331by tense2 » Dec 25, 2013 - 01:24 PM PST
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In Brian Colangelo's mind, LOL. If he we're still in charge he may have been the one who thought there was SOME value in Mullins. Now that they got a real astute GM, they are getting rid of their trash and are trending in the right direction.

Maybe DeRozen is next out the door. wink

                
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Post ID: 423332by tense2 » Dec 25, 2013 - 01:27 PM PST
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And that Sir is the problem. Plus they've already had a taste of the Green and know what that's like.

                
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Post ID: 423707by Agent0 » Dec 26, 2013 - 02:42 AM PST
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^You are correct sir. Maybe find an injured team in need of a SG and do a three way with Green going there, something going to ATL and Ayon to LAC

Bleacher Report, lol

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 423713by Heediot » Dec 26, 2013 - 06:48 AM PST
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Amir is a pipe dream. He's been beasting lately, it's going to take a first round pick and Bullock to at least have Masai Ujiri's interest.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 423772by Agent0 » Dec 26, 2013 - 02:48 PM PST
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Clippers don't really have first round picks to throw around.

Amir Johnson last 10 games:

16.9 pts / 9.4 rebs / 1.0 stl / 1.4 blk / 1.4 tov / 66.4% FG / 42.9% 3PT (0.7 3PA) / 80.0% FT / .698 TS% / 133 Ortg / 33.6 MPG

Drool.....

He wouldn't be a one year rental either because he has a team option for $7M next season. 3 big rotation of Blake, DJ, Amir is drool worthy.

Now back to reality...

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424609by ClippersDA » Dec 27, 2013 - 01:35 AM PST
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What gm is gullible or stupid enough to take Dudley Hollins and Mullens off our hands? I'd even throw barnes in there.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424625by itsLuigi » Dec 27, 2013 - 03:25 AM PST
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maybe we can get a someone from Utah?

                
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Post ID: 424626by cleepers » Dec 27, 2013 - 03:44 AM PST
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OK... we're short a serviceable bench big, so we should not only give up half of one serviceable big (Hollins counts for half - Mullens doesn't count for sh!t), but also our starting and reserve small forwards?

We'll get our guy... the Clips are big-market players these days. We'll have somebody new by the playoffs. It wouldn't be prudent to shake things up too much right now. We're a good team, getting better and missing a 16ppg scorer.

We're at 20-11, not 11-20. I enjoyed a great regular season last year... this year, I want to enjoy a great postseason.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424627by itsLuigi » Dec 27, 2013 - 04:01 AM PST
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you guys still think we might pick up odom?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424628by EwanB » Dec 27, 2013 - 04:23 AM PST
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Ed Davis from the grizz? 3 mil contract so wouldn't have to give up too much. Maybe Green and Bullock

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424629by EwanB » Dec 27, 2013 - 04:25 AM PST
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Or Marcus Morris for Bullock and Mullens/Hollins

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424630by ClipperB23 » Dec 27, 2013 - 04:26 AM PST
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^ Ed Davis is nothing special. Bullock has way too much potential, that trade just sounds like a panic move to me. We are fine, we lost 2 games in a row in which one we got shafted by the refs (hate to make excuses but even Clipper haters pointed out the horrible officiating) and tonight we put up a great fight against a very hot team coming of a b2b. The best is yet to come for this team and we are improving in every area.

My only worry is Jared Dudley, he needs to do a better job at impacting games even if his shot isn't falling.

                
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Post ID: 424633by Barnes » Dec 27, 2013 - 05:02 AM PST
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It hurt us to not get Landry in the off season. I think that Landry/Odom would have been an ideal backup for our bigs. I'd trade Reddick and a draft for Garnett at this point.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424638by Agent0 » Dec 27, 2013 - 09:23 AM PST
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Garnett makes $12M this season and next and has been struggling...

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424645by Heediot » Dec 27, 2013 - 12:34 PM PST
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Honestly, Garnett and Pierce have not looked good at all, it appears we dodge a bullet possibly in not acquiring them. Too early to tell though, these geezers seem to turn it on in the playoffs.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424647by JahvonTheClip » Dec 27, 2013 - 01:42 PM PST
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Do you guys think we will make a trade at all this season?

                
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Post ID: 424648by Voyeur » Dec 27, 2013 - 01:46 PM PST
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What the...?

                
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Post ID: 424649by Kingkanyon » Dec 27, 2013 - 01:55 PM PST
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SMH

I don't care for Landry even though he's a nice player, but Clips need somebody over 6'10 who can provide a little scoring and Defense, Hollins is killing them every game and Jamison can't throw a "Penny" into a Wishing Well.

I know one thing, I hear Larry Sanders is on the Market and the Bucks are willing to deal him for a 1st rd pick.

                
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Post ID: 424652by CapsNClips » Dec 27, 2013 - 02:01 PM PST
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Sanders makes $11mil a year, and we don't have an attractive 1st round pick to give them.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424653by jarca » Dec 27, 2013 - 02:18 PM PST
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We don't have any asset to trade for a back up big. We just gotta settle for Odom or any big that magically gets waive around march

                
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Post ID: 424656by tense2 » Dec 27, 2013 - 02:52 PM PST
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Ed Davis would be a very good pick up and better then you think particularly for the $. But he ain't going anywhere darn it.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424658by Icecoldclipper » Dec 27, 2013 - 03:03 PM PST
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Posted this elsewhere wanted to get reponses. Would be tough getting all three agreements but all must be met and then Stern would have to not get in the way. Two part trade but three part agreement.

1.Mullens, Hollins, Green, Jamison, and Wayans plus cash (some of KG buyout) for Jason Terry

  1. TPE (Bledsoe) and 2014 first or future pick 1st for Plumee

  2. KG buyout agreeing to come to Clippers (the 1st is for paying the buyout).

We would have to figure out what to do with Terry but overall would have the bigs we want.

Paul/Collision/Terry Redick/Crawford/Terry Dudley/Barnes/Jackson Griffin/Plumee/Garnett/Jackson Jordan/Garnett/Plumee

Nets-clear two of the Boston deal contracts and get a late pick. We may not be able to trade this year pick because we don't have one next year but a pick is better than nothing.

Clips-Spend and try to win now.

                
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Post ID: 424659by CapsNClips » Dec 27, 2013 - 03:25 PM PST
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Which Plumlee? Miles or Mason? If it's Miles from PHX then I'd just rather do that trade without all of the other stuff. I don't think PHX would do it though.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424661by Icecoldclipper » Dec 27, 2013 - 03:35 PM PST
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Mason from the Nets he is playing pretty well himself. Not as noticeable but good for a bench big with length on a good deal. We cut the fat while keeping the core.

The pick is basically for getting a prospect and them paying the buyout which is a blow in itself for them .

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424672by Kingkanyon » Dec 27, 2013 - 06:55 PM PST
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We wouldn't be able to get Miles or Mason both are Big time role players for their teams, and both have too much potential to trade this early in their Career, Only reason Pacers Traded Miles is because the got Scola back, witch was a pretty even deal.

                
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Post ID: 424677by Agent0 » Dec 27, 2013 - 09:59 PM PST
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Actually that was the opposite situation last season. Looked great in the regular season, but got beat up during the post season

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424680by Icecoldclipper » Dec 27, 2013 - 10:22 PM PST
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I'd swap Mason out for Reggie if it was a deal killer. Nets would have to trade or release two players to take our expiring.

                
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Post ID: 424683by pageC4 » Dec 27, 2013 - 10:47 PM PST
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Very good question. I think there's always the fear that since we are a new squad with so many injuries occurring this year we may not make a trade. My guess is that the FO and Doc may not want to make any decisions until after this season. They may be thinking if our current standing is due to players not being in the systems long enough, injuries, or other things vs. some players just suck and need to be traded. My guess is that they aren't going to trade anyone

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424692by itsLuigi » Dec 28, 2013 - 02:06 AM PST
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you guys think we can get a trade going with the bucks?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424708by ClipperPostman » Dec 28, 2013 - 09:32 AM PST
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sorry to burst your bubble but their are no trades coming for the clippers this season.

2 reasons:

Our team is just starting to Gel. Would be dumb to make a trade right now. When JJ gets back we will be even better, which is scary.

  1. We having nothing to trade at this point. Anybody of value on our team has been critical to our success and would only leave a bigger hole to fill.

I like the team we have. Jamison sucks right now, but a guy that has scored 20,000 points in his career doesn't just forget how to score. HE has to get in rythym. Doc didn't play him the first part of the season and its showing.

Also I think with Stephen JAckson we can bench dudley for now.

                
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