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Post ID: 424710by Heediot » Dec 28, 2013 - 09:57 AM PST
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We have a TPE which may net us a decent backup center.



                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424711by what_up_clipnation83 » Dec 28, 2013 - 10:57 AM PST
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Bynum is available...he could be a nice back up big for around 15 minutes a game.

He rebounds, block shots, good post defender, good post up player plus he's 7-1"

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424713by spontane » Dec 28, 2013 - 11:09 AM PST
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TPE REGGIE!

                
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Post ID: 424715by tense2 » Dec 28, 2013 - 11:22 AM PST
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Not happening with that contract of his....and to go along with that pea brain he's got.

                
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Post ID: 424716by tense2 » Dec 28, 2013 - 11:25 AM PST
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That's an excellent deal.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424717by ClippersDA » Dec 28, 2013 - 11:33 AM PST
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I want Bynum. I know he is an idiot, but to backup dj? That would be amazing. Any way to get him without losing dj?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424718by Voyeur » Dec 28, 2013 - 11:41 AM PST
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I worry that Bynum isn't so much an idiot as he is a negative influence. His skills and size are VERY tempting, however.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424719by ClippersDA » Dec 28, 2013 - 11:42 AM PST
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Apparently he wants to come to the clippers or heat. If motivated and with a coach like doc, he could be valuable.

                
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Post ID: 424720by Voyeur » Dec 28, 2013 - 11:45 AM PST
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Hmmm...well that does change things.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424721by WinningBasket » Dec 28, 2013 - 11:45 AM PST
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If Clips get Bynum, does this mean bye-bye Odom?

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424723by ClippersDA » Dec 28, 2013 - 11:48 AM PST
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I would never want to build around Bynum but if there was any way to get him as a backup? That might be worth it. I think our locker room is solid enough to withstand him.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424724by CapsNClips » Dec 28, 2013 - 11:54 AM PST
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Bynum is an a*****, but DAMN IT, he can play. I think we should go for it.

Could he really be that much more detrimental than a crackhead who just got divorced?

                
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Post ID: 424726by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 28, 2013 - 12:05 PM PST
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He earns 24m/2 years, with the production of an average backup center. Along with a bad attitude and Brandon Roy esque knees. I have no clue how anyone can even think Bynum was a realistic or remotely good option.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424728by ClippersDA » Dec 28, 2013 - 12:08 PM PST
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I think we are saying if he is waived.

                
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Post ID: 424729by CapsNClips » Dec 28, 2013 - 12:10 PM PST
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Obviously only if he's waived.

                
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Post ID: 424730by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 28, 2013 - 12:11 PM PST
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I agree that there really doesn't need to be any changes to this team for the most part but it certainly would help to get a backup big that can play defense. If we can somehow dump Mullens and get a quality big in return we should do it. Now it might not sound realistic but there are plenty of dumb GMs like the GM of the Nets who might just think Mullens is a good player that needs a change scenery + we have a TPE if that helps.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424732by ClippersDA » Dec 28, 2013 - 12:16 PM PST
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What exactly does the TPE do?

                
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Post ID: 424733by CapsNClips » Dec 28, 2013 - 12:18 PM PST
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You can use it to trade for a player as long as the player you're trading for has a contract that's smaller than the TPE itself. And you can't throw in a player with the TPE.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424735by BringKamanBack » Dec 28, 2013 - 12:26 PM PST
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i'm all for bynum. The core is already too tight knit to be distracted by bynum's dumb personality. Get rid of some scrubs on our team like Jamison and Mullens and Green and get him! He'd be an excellent backup to DJ

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424736by ClippersDA » Dec 28, 2013 - 12:37 PM PST
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Is by um better than okafor (if we can get either)? Would DJ feel threatened with Bynum here? I think it is the ultimate confidence boost for DJ actually. Bynum can't play more than 20 minutes a night, but who do you close games with?

                
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Post ID: 424737by Voyeur » Dec 28, 2013 - 12:41 PM PST
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Great question. If they try the hack a DJ strategy, we'd be in great shape putting Bynum in until the strategy becomes unnecessary. Honestly, I don't see DJ being threatened, the way Doc has been able to stroke his ego...and knowing Bynum's physical limitations.

                
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The other thing is that, even limited, Bynum is a Clipper killer...even when we played Cleveland.

                
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Post ID: 424741by CapsNClips » Dec 28, 2013 - 12:58 PM PST
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I think the best part is that they wouldn't even want to try and hack DJ. That team would just be hurting themselves defensively by forcing their bigs to go up against Bynum.

I think we need to make this happen A.S.A.P.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424743by ClippersDA » Dec 28, 2013 - 01:08 PM PST
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Part of me feels he is fools gold, but it is tempting due to the fact that he is a good player. Way better than anyone else we could get for minimum.

                
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Post ID: 424748by jarca » Dec 28, 2013 - 01:24 PM PST
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Hopefully the cavs just cut him, so he can just sign here for peanuts

                
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Do people really want this guy? Better than Mullens I guess if he plays that is....

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 424767by Agent0 » Dec 28, 2013 - 04:07 PM PST
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Lakers fans mentioned it before that Bynum doesn't actually like basketball that much, which is why he is lazy with rehab and such. Basketball allowed him to get money and be rich, and he's quite content with that.

                
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Post ID: 425007by ClipperPostman » Dec 29, 2013 - 11:29 AM PST
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This is what people forget. It doesn't matter how talented you are if you have no desire to play Ball.

A cancer in the lockerroom can kill a team faster than injuries. There is a reason Cav's suspended him indefinitely... Don't forget that.

                
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Post ID: 425010by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 29, 2013 - 11:54 AM PST
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Yep I think some people are underestimating the risk factor. Not only is he lazy and a cancer but he has glass knees.

                
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Post ID: 425013by jarca » Dec 29, 2013 - 12:02 PM PST
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Agree but they said the same thing about Rasheed Wallace and he turned out to be the missing piece

                
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Post ID: 425015by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 29, 2013 - 12:37 PM PST
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That Is different though. At least Wallace didn't have glass knees and Wallace never said that he just flat out didn't like basketball. He was a bit of a headcase but he was an emotional guy who actually cared. Bynum is basically the opposite. He doesn't care about basketball and was in it for the $ alone.

The knees bug me the most. Bynum basically has Brandon Roy knees from what i have heard and that is bad. Very bad. His time is nearly up at this point. If we can take him for the vet min it would probably be a worthwhile risk even with his bad attitude since we have Doc who can keep him in check. Can't be worse than Mullens and probably Hollins at any rate.

                
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Post ID: 425018by Agent0 » Dec 29, 2013 - 12:54 PM PST
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For Detroit? People talked about his wildness, but they never questioned his desire or ability to play basketball, and he was generally liked by most teammates outside of the ones he harassed.

Still, Bynum in a non-sucky mode would be helpful, just whether or not one can get that is the question of course

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 425025by clips4life32 » Dec 29, 2013 - 02:14 PM PST
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If he's waived, I'm all for signing him. Even if his knees are made of glass, we are not going to give him a lot of minutes. He would simply take Hollins' minutes which are about 8-10 minutes a game so far. This will help with his longevity during the season and playoffs. Also, given the fact that if we pick him up, he'll be surrounded by a nice mixture of youth and veterans, with a coach that is well respected with championship experience that may keep him focused and engaged vs what he was surrounded with in Cleveland. He'll still get looks inside with the second unit which will make him happy and will take the load off our guards and wing players when Blake is out.

If this doesn't pan out, then we'll just cut him. At least he's been playing lately and don't have to wait for him to get into game shape like Oden with the Heat.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 425072by pageC4 » Dec 29, 2013 - 06:38 PM PST
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Hey guys I started looking at some players on the bucks and John Henson kind of stood out. He's a young PF that looks pretty good.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Money wise we can complete a trade for Henson with a combo of different players. I would like to give up Willie Green and Byron Mullens. In this scenario we unload Mullens and an excess guard in Green. However, Milwaukee would be getting killed in that one. Perhaps, a better deal for them would be to offer a young piece in return and another filler. Bullock and Wayans may be more appealing for them and both are wings that we could deal for a PF, Henson. This trade is also successful financially

                
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Post ID: 425073by tense2 » Dec 29, 2013 - 06:46 PM PST
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That's fine, but the Bucks have got to actually want to do that trade. Not quite sure why they would give up a young cheap talent for our trash though.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 425075by cashdld » Dec 29, 2013 - 06:52 PM PST
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how about a trade of jamal crawford and dudley for wilson chandler and darrell arthur

                
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Post ID: 425078by tense2 » Dec 29, 2013 - 07:01 PM PST
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Meh. Chandler is injury prone and Arthur isn't very good. Rather stay where we are and hope we find that Big we so desperately need.

                
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Post ID: 425080by pageC4 » Dec 29, 2013 - 07:07 PM PST
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The ESPN machine says it clears. Our projected wins would increase by 1 and the Nuggets stay the same. Crawford would really appeal to them too...we will have no problem making any trade if it includes him. Good suggestion.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 425124by ClippersDA » Dec 30, 2013 - 10:38 AM PST
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Any chance a Bledsoe for granger swap was ever investigated? Obviously with other pieces to make the math work.

                
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Is Granger even playing basketball? Lol

The guy I was pimping in summer was Thaddeus Young. He's now shooting 43.5% 3PT (only 2.4 attempts I think) and he has the size and length to guard a Durant since people seem to always be worried about that.

One of the biggest things I liked about the thought of a guy like that is that the opposition can't comfortably switch matchups and put their longest defender on Paul because they can't guard a guy like young with a small guard since he'll beat on them. In terms of people talking about reliving Paul from the best defender on the opposition, it's not just the SG, but the SF also needs to be accounted for to make that truly happen.

You know when teams see a mismatch and force the post, but the guy getting the ball isn't actually good at posting up, well Young posts up PF's and big SF's.

Anyways, that's not real life, so who cares. Maybe if the Clippers had a draft pick or something, or if there was a 3 way with a team like Charlotte who is 29th in Ortg and terrible at scoring, despite being elite at defense and wanted to get some scoring.

                
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Post ID: 425137by CP3Best » Dec 30, 2013 - 12:43 PM PST
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You want to swap our second best scorer right now, for some average stuff? Crawford was almost an all star last season, same this season. He Is putting up 20 points in the games he started and you want to trade him? I wouldn't trade him for those 2 straight up. He Is the only scorer we have beside blake and CP

                
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Post ID: 425144by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 30, 2013 - 01:57 PM PST
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2nd best scorer? How is he a better scorer than BG or CP?

                
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I have BG at best right now cause he is tearing it up, and and he is tied with CP for 2nd

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 425146by jazclipcity3 » Dec 30, 2013 - 02:14 PM PST
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Hilton Armstrong anybody? Has a decent shot, played with cp3 BefOre, rebounds, blocks shots. What do you guys think?

                
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Post ID: 425149by itsLuigi » Dec 30, 2013 - 03:29 PM PST
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havent really seen him play that much. he can't be all that good if he was waived by the warriors? does anyone know why he was waived?

                
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Post ID: 425150by CP3Heliflopter » Dec 30, 2013 - 03:42 PM PST
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He is ok as a 3rd stringer. Better than Mullens at least.

                
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Post Subject: RE: Official Los Angeles Clippers Trade Ideas Thread Post ID: 425532by Markojaric » Dec 31, 2013 - 01:00 AM PST
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Do we have a 2nd rounder to give? I think Mully plus the pick to one of the Tanktastic 4 (Boston, Toronto, Utah, Milwaukee) for a half decent reserve? (Marshon? Psycho T? Jeremy Evans?)

Im excluding Philly because i dont think we can even use anyone of their fringe players.

                
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Post ID: 425537by Flushyriver » Dec 31, 2013 - 02:31 AM PST
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Actually a lot. Would be surprised how many quality bigs get paid less than 2.6 million.

Think Reggie Evans actually makes a ton of sense among these payers as he belongs to a team paying a ton of tax and is struggling to win minutes over Plumlee and Teletovic even with Brook Lopez and Andray Blatche out. And Brooklyn seems like a team that wouldn't mind a draft pick between now and 2019. Who knows as the trade deadline approaches. I might just be trying to convince myself, but consider that in Brooklyn's last 10 games Evans has played in 5 even though in these 10 games Lopez only played in 4 and Blatche only played in 8. Garnett, Plumlee, and Teletovic, on the other hand, have both played in 9 of those 10 games.

EDIT: As for trading with Boston, Utah, or the Raptors. Think we aren't looking to add to our collection of wings with Brooks or Evans and Hansbrough makes about half a mill more than our TPE. Technically we could trade Barnes for Hansbrough but I think that's hardly worth the effort.

                
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Post ID: 425554by pageC4 » Dec 31, 2013 - 09:30 AM PST
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after last nights loss we need to make a change. I don't believe that we currently have the pieces to contend, and your proposed trade is looking better with each mounting loss.

                
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Post ID: 425557by wessleejr » Dec 31, 2013 - 09:38 AM PST
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Maybe Dudley but Jamal when he is hot, he is hot, i disagree but I'm not the GM.

                
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