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clippyclip
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I can hear it now: "NO Demarcus, THIS is how you foul. Make sure to get as many as you can in as short a time as possible."

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i don't think Charlotte is ready to give up on Gilchrist. Gary Neal is like a worse defensive Randy Foye, we would crucify him, and I can't see his role here, undersized shoot first SG.

McRoberts has done well of himself though, wouldn't be a bad cheap backup PF, but he isn't necessarily an upgrade from what we have, a lateral move. Biyombo on the other hand interests me, that could be an interesting one. Zeller could also be interesting, of course draft picks would be nice. Zeller though has length issues, he's 7'0 with like Blake's reach and wingspan (okay longer, but he doesn't have the length of a C). That might be part of why he's shooting low percentages so far.

Landry is interesting, but if we didn't want to pay him so much last season, probably don't want to again this year. Thompson I like but not at his contract. $6M a year range for another 3 years. Making that much, I'd rather get a sharp shooting big man like Channing Frye who is also not signed for as long. Thompson was a nice idea when he was making $3M, but with his extension, he just isn't worth $6M, $6.4M and $6.8M for the next 3 seasons to this team.

Reggie also doesn't fit so well on this team, I know the nostalgia still lingers about him, but he's not a C, he's bad at that position, he's a negative on offense, he clogs the lane, he isn't a rim protector, but yes, his rebounding is great and his defense is good in some matchups. Against teams like GS and OKC, I can't really think of anything Reggie would have done to tip the scales in our favor.

ClipperKyle32
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Ariza wants back in the West Coast? How about returning to Los Angeles with Former Teammate Chris Paul

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Ariza would be nice, not sure what Washington is trying to get out of the situation. We'd need a team to throw Dudley to. Philly is a team that can absorb some contracts, but the guy they would be most interested in moving is Young, and I'm not sure Washington has any interest in him at this stage.

It would be nice to pull something off for a reasonable contract, but don't get too excited and overpay.

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^maybe the cavs would take dudley? once deng leaves they might need a backup for wiggins/parker

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They have Alonzo Gee, but maybe, what would they give Washington though?

ClippersDA
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Id give waahington a second round draft pick, reggie bullock and barnes/Dudley for Ariza. Not sure who else we can throw in as filler...

ClipperKyle32
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Washington is face with an OKC type situation. They have Gortat and they have Ariza. Okay they can only resign one unless they both take HUGE paycuts. If I am Washington I have Webster, and drafted Otto Porter. Seems to me they planned for the future. They will resign Gortat because players of that caliber are a rarity to accompany NeN.

That is how I believe the situation will turn out. Now Ariza is a FA! We have Dudley,Barnes,Bullock on the books at the SF position. Now!! SAC Kings will trade their 8 pick for veteran! Maybe We trade Dudley to SAC, pick goes to Wizards, and Carl Landry or Reggie Evans to LAC.

Wash will do it because they shed a Contract and get a draft pick. SAC gets Dudley/Barnes/Green and sheds Evans or Landry or Thompson. Clippers gets Ariza! Hell maybe SAC gives the pick to the Knicks and Ariza and Dudley go to SAC and Melo goes to the Clippers who knows!!

I can't wait for the offseason and rumors to get in full gear! And Donald Sterling is gone

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So Sacramento is effectively trading the 8th pick for Jared Dudley. I didn't even know if someone would trade the 60th pick let alone a top 10 pick.

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I don't know what type of veteran they are looking for so I could not say it would be Dudley.

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We're not gonna get a valued player for Dudley or Barnes or Bullock. Let's just end that. Why will some team pick them up when they get a player for equal value on via free agency. Personally I think our best trading chips are DJ and JJ. Their two players that have serious flaws in their game but have higher trade value

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I like Ariza... I also like a healthy (Granger). I love a name like Melo. Who would we have to give up to get him and how much of a paycut would he have to take. At this point if Carmelo wants to win he'll need to take a paycut to go to a contender. CP3, JJ, MELO, GRIFFIN, JORDAN..... c'mon man... Who do you double team??????? CP3? MELO? GRIFFIN?... LOL

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I want one of these 3 to be happy.... Melo>Ariza>Granger.... its sad to see Ariza's name over Granger.. especially since I know who Granger once was.

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Can't see Doc trading our wings especially Reggie for another wing. He tries to stack our perimeter and we got burned the focus should be getting longer first. There was so much meat in the Tyler Zeller rumors for Reggie I have to believe Doc has a bigger plan.

We can't go backwards again with Mullens, Jamison, Hollins, and Davis (having Davis playing C on this team) type signings.

ClipperKyle32
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We need to have that Houston type mindset. Everyone is open to trade except for Blake and Chris. Houston said everyone is up for trade except for Harden and Howard

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All I know is a core of Cp3, Melo, and Griffin is amazing

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How realistic of an option is Ariza???

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Of course, why wouldn't you trade anyone on the team if it improves us? Even Blake and Chris, just that getting an upgrade in trading them isn't really likely to happen.

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Cp3, JJ, Melo, Griffin, (???)

Dunkathon
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There's no way Melo would come to the Clippers, and even if he did, I wouldn't want him. He's a ballhogger who can't play defense. The Clips don't need more offense. What they need is a great defender who can occasionally hit shots. If he's willing to take less money to play for a contender, Deng is my #1 choice, followed by Ariza.

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Stop lying to yourself... You know you want Carmelo...

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You are absolutely correct though.. the Clippers don't need more offense... What they need is "consistent" offense. Melo brings that. Doc could have Melo play some d.. believe me.

Dunkathon
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I'm not lying to myself. I know what I want, and it isn't the chucking and tissue paper defense Carmelo brings. Don't be blinded by the superstar hype. Melo doesn't even bring consistent offense, considering how streaky he is. With all the superstar SFs out there, the Clips are better off with a strong defender who can score a little. Deng fits the bill perfectly, even though I don't believe he'll sign with the Clips.

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Doesn't seem like there's any financial means to sign Carmelo unless we dump Deandre and Crawford.

CapsNClips
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I'm not saying I'm in favor of getting Melo, but our roster would resemble the '08 Celtics fairly closely.

BG = KG,

Melo = Pierce,

Redick = Allen,

Paul = Rondo,

Doc = Doc

ClipperKyle32
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I agree with Dunkathon. Of Course anytime you can bring another "superstar" and have a potential Big 3, you want it. The Clipper don't need that though. We need a consistent 3-D type player. Deng isn't consistent if I must say. Ariza would be my choice, then Deng, and hey a guy named LeBron James might want out of Miami with Bosh not being the same and Wade's declining health. Still I do not want another star and that is only if its not LeBron , who wouldn't want him. I just do not want any unwanted and extra criticism. Just a consistent contributor will be fine

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Paul is nothing like Rondo and BG is nothing like KG lol.

Anyway I rather have a 3&D SF and keep DJ.

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FIRST OFF....Everyone please stop claiming Trevor Ariza is a consistent 3d player ....HE IS NOT CONSISTENT. ..He has only 2 good years in his career when is on a CONTRACT YEAR. Outside of those CONTRACT YEARS he plays poor and it is a trap. SECOND... All the top teams had 3 stars, a 3d guy/glue guy, a 6thman, and a enforcer. Just compare our team to others:

Spurs big 3 for years is parker, leonard, Duncan, there's sixth man is ginobli, their 3d guy is Danny green, and there enforcer is splitter

The heat big 3 james, wade, bosh. There sixth man is ray allen. Their 3d guy is Shane battier, and there enforcers are birdman and haslem.

Thunder have westbrook, durant, ibaka. Sixth man is jackson. Their 3d guy is sefolosha. Their enforcer is perkins.

Pacers goerge, west, hibbert. Sixth man scola. Their glue guy is stephenson. Their enforcer are there bugs in hibbert and west.

Even warriors have it in curry, iguadala, lee. Sixth man in barnes. Enforcer in bogut.

Now let's get to clippers. 2 stars in Paul griffin. Sixth man in crawford. Glue guy in Jordan as a defensive anchor.

cashdld
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Chris Paul is rondo with scoring and shooting and free throw ability. No Blake griffin isn't kg but with his development he can fulfill the same role.

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Okay BG is not similar to KG at all, but Chris could easily play the Rondo role. Chris's scoring wouldn't be as important when Melo and Blake are on your team, just facilitate and defend.

Our team would be so much more dynamic than that Celtics team that made it to the finals twice and Doc would already have a winning formula on how to use our best players.

I'd love to have a Clippers core of CP, Blake, Melo & Doc for the next 4-5 years. Melo is not a good defender, but he's a hell of a lot better then what people give him credit for.

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I wouldn't bank on Lebron wanting out of Miami, especially if they reach the Finals again.

Deng's had one bad year, and people are calling him inconsistent? Really? Meanwhile, Ariza's had one GOOD year, and he's now the favorite. Both wouldn't be bad, but if we're assuming both want to play for the Clips, and if we're judging solely on consistency, I take Deng ten out of ten times.

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Maybe Carmelo has to do too much in New York and lacks in defense... He wouldn't have to do as much with the Clippers. Also he would get open looks instead of trying to create for himself. His stats would go up... maybe score less but he would be more efficient.

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My reference to consistency is his jump shot or 3 pointer rather. But my god he isn't Barnes or Dudley inconsistent. If he could not throw a rock into the ocean he still would be an upgrade at the SF position defensively and rebounding.

1.) Deng

2.) Ariza

IMO

I only say Ariza because he seems like the most financially plausible. If Deng is serious about winning and cares less about money then sign him up. Would probably do great under Doc.

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Yea I don't know how Deng became inconsistent. I'd want Deng, for sure, but I don't see how that works money wise. I only take Ariza over Deng because he makes and should make so much less money.

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Rondo's inability to shoot and to score well / score out of isolation hurt their team on offense. They were an average offense at best after Rondo took over more offense. They won on defense, KG was elite, and had super elite impact defensively when on the floor.

CP would still have to score because it keeps teams honest, and also because if you have those guys, it makes much more sense to move a guy like Redick for defense, so you loose scoring. Anyways, I'm not really going to delve much into the Carmelo talk. If Blake and Paul wanted Carmelo, they would both have taken less money.

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KG's role was primarily being a defensive anchor, the ability to play PF and C effectively, elite defensive impact, and an elite mid-range jumper to spread the floor. I don't think Blake's development path is in that direction, but Blake is already as good a scorer as KG was at any ooh tin time, but that wasn't KG's greatest strength and not what he was doing for Boston primarily.

The comparison isn't that great, we would just be a nicely talented team, too much is different from the Celtics, we certainly wouldn't be he league'a #1 defense, and our offense would not be mediocre to below average.

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The combination of Griffin and Jordan can fulfill those roles

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We'll have to see as were nowhere close to being an elite defense at the moment and neither guy brings that impact when on the floor and Blake's shooting is nowhere near as effective or respected as KG's, so we'll see.

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All star granger is who I want

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Good luck with that. There's a 90% chance that won't ever come to fruition. Time to move on.

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i hope he stays. i think a full year with us would help him improve and get partially back to where he was. i haven't heard any news of him opting out like collison. maybe he'll stay.

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In theory it could, in reality we actually have no clue. It all depends on what our options are when the time comes. If we have options that would be more reliable, probably move on, if no clearly better option, then we can take the chance with him again.

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Wouldn't mind getting in the Celtics-Wolves trade discussions.

Celtics trade Jared Sullinger,Brandon Bass,Jeff Green,Joel Anthony,and their 1st round pick.Celtics get Kevin Love,Jared Dudley,Willie Green,and a Clippers 2nd rounder.

Clippers trade Jared Dudley,Willie Green,and a 2nd round pick.Clippers get Brandon Bass.

Wolves trade Kevin Love.Wolves get Jeff Green,Jared Sullinger,Joel Anthony,and this years Celtics 1st rounder.

If we can pull off this trade then we would have DJ,Crawford,Barnes,and Bass contract end at the same time which means will have some money to spend in Free Agency.

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I'd rather just keep all those assets and just wait for Boozer to get amnestied.

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^ The only thing about amnesty is that we have to be under the cap to take advantage of it.

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Damnit, totally forgot. And Boozer isn't good enough to where he can demand bad teams to not bid on him.

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chris paul is set to make 20 mil this season..our payroll is 73,616344 for 2014-2015 season..if collision does not resign...we will be about 2 mil less...

how much money do we have to get a back up center and a back up point guard??? a few mil and maybe an exemption?

I say we trade paul for ty lawson,mozgov and their 11th pick in the draft??

then we have a point guard ...a center and the 11th pic...

we can get a back up point guard or small forward..

and with our 28th pick we can get another quality player...

worm
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CP3 is untouchable and you want to trade our superstar PG what next Blake Griffin to be trade?

laboy
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why is he untouchable???

there are plenty of guards in this league that could lead the clips..

in 2 years he will be making 24 mil..

griffin has his faults but he has gotten better every year..

and I think he will eventually become a good post player..

who do you suggest we should trade? crawford?? 5 mil..

dudley??/ 4.2 mil..

or barnes ??? 3,5 mil..

well they all have one year left on their contracts..

are you confident with paul leading this team??

after choking in the playoffs?????

worm
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How can you win an NBA championship if you trade one of the core of your team you need a lot of patience man .We need continuity with CP3 and Blake and were better next season.

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