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Billupsss
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The fact that Afflalo was traded for little sent back, makes me question why our trade proposals were denied by the Magic. Oh well, I hope we can still grab him if we can.

Jerediscool
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The Magic didn't deny the offer. Sterling nixed it at the last minute.

Billupsss
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I realize that. But it's been reported that the Clippers have sent trade offers to the Magic again for Afflalo this year but they didn't like what they were seeing this time.

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Salary dump. The Magic have something up their sleeve.

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The salary doesn't work , but this does. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=knor947 I would do this in a hot second!!! In the Triangle. You need role players that can knock down shots and right now New York has no Small....

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ClipperKyle32 wrote:

The salary doesn't work , but this does.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=knor947

I would do this in a hot second!!! In the Triangle. You need role players that can knock down shots and right now New York has no Small forward on roster and lack depth at the position anyway with Melo. Now, NY can possibly buy out Dudley or somethi and we get Shumpert and Dalembert? Plus NY gets out pick

Who Says No

Clippers Say No. Dalembert is going to be waived and we can get a player who is better than Shump with our 28th pick and they won't have knee problems.

We also don't need more SG's and less SF's.

CapsNClips
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I like Ryan Anderson a lot, but how could he have fit on this team?

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They are offering Anderson to GSW.

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CapsNClips wrote:

I like Ryan Anderson a lot, but how could he have fit on this team?

Going small ball and playing Blake at C. If Blake had length and was Tim Duncan or something, it is great, but with Blake, our stretch big has to be the one playing C, not Blake.

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Yeah, I really like the idea of Channing as most of us do; but haven't heard anything on that front.

I don't mind the guys being mentioned in trade talks, but feel the SF position should be the priority followed by the back up big. Then defense at the 2 spot. So hopefully they have something in mind.

ClipperKyle32
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Wow! Its going down tonight guuys. I feel it

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Clippersfan86
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At least we all now know that Doc+co is at least TRYING to get the right kinds of players. Tony Allen, Aaron Afflalo, Ryan Anderson are the EXACT holes this team needs to fill. Elite wing D, Starting SF and a better backup big.

clipperboy24
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I like the pieces they are trying to get. Trying to have hope after we missed out on afflalo for peanuts

Clippersfan86
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28+Bullock for Afflalo.... would of gotten it done IMO. Well worth it too.

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We couldn't absorb his contract, the cap hold for the 28th pick and Bullock isn't enough.

clipperboy24
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We would have had to throw in jamal as well for salary purposes, but I agree for sure worth it. And I am a big bullock supporter

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Jamal for Gerald Green.

PHX drafted a SF in the draft and they need some instant offense from the SG position, especially if they trade either one of Goran or Bledsoe.

Gerald Green would be a great upgrade over Barnes.

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If we fail to get LeBron or carmelo, my backup dream would be sign and trade Barnes and bullock for deng, and another sign and trade with pacers for Stephenson for Crawford and reddick

cashdld
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Imagine a line up with Chris paul, Stephenson, deng, griffin, and jordan the defense would be killer

da11da
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Imagine a lineup with Chris Pal, Paul George, Durant, Lebron and Jordan. With Blake and Westbrook coming off the bench.

uncool
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I agree but if we do that we NEED to have a trade set up to lose Dudley!

namzug
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Do a sign and trade for Deng or Ariza with Jamal or JJ and a combination of either picks, Reggie, Duds and or Matt; or do it for Channing Fry.

End up with either of the rosters below:

CP3/ Beno

Thabo/ JJ/ CJ

Deng or Ariza/ Matt

Blake/ Ivan

Dj/ Okafor

or

CP3/ Livingston

Alan Anderson/ JJ/ CJ

Marvin Williams/ Reggie/ Duds

Blake/ Fry

DJ/ Okafor

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I want Iman Shumpart lol .... and melo..... make it happen!

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CapsNClips
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Why? Galo's game fits our team almost perfectly, but his salary does not.

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CapsNClips wrote:

Why? Galo's game fits our team almost perfectly, but his salary does not.

His health makes me even more nervous than his salary.

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If Gallinari is healthy (which he's not yet) he'd be a great SF for us. He can play both the 3 and the 4. He's a better 3PT shooter than Deng and Ariza. KD won't be able to shoot over him as easy as other SF's since he's 6'10".

Denver drafted McDermott so they don't have use for Gallinari and his $10mil contract. They'd probably be willing to dump him for very little. I'd like offer Jamal, Dudley, and Barnes for Galo and Mozgov. We only do this if Gallinari is recovering well from his knee injury.

We then use or MLE on Frye and our BAE on Marion.

CP3/Collison

JJ/Wilcox/Bullock

Galo/Marion

Griffin/Frye

DJ/Mozgov

ClippersDA
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I don't trust chrisclipsla so taking it with a grain of salt. Also, mcbuckets was traded to Chicago.

CapsNClips
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Oh yeah, totally forgot. My bad.

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Hmmm

Billupsss
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Is Gallinari even a good defender? I would rather go for Deng.

ClipperKyle32
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PIPE DREAM.MMinnesota Trades for Chandler Parsons and trades us Zach Lavine for Jamal and Bullock. LOVE THE KID

Jerediscool
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Haha i think everyone knows that you love the UCLA kids. I wouldn't mind grabbing Chandler Parsons for ourselves. He and blake are supposedly buddies.

CapsNClips
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I don't know about you, but in my dreams I don't want Kevin Love on the Rockets.

ClipperKyle32
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I don't worry about love. Jared Dudley shut him down last season. If you let Jared shut you down then I do no care about you imo. Hahahaha jk.

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Chrisclipsla is basically like us tweeting.

Agent0
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How do you justify asking for Mozgov? I think they even like him over McGee right now despite paying McGee so much. They are getting ripped off because Gallo and Mozgov would be the two best players in the trade.

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Mcgee was hurt most of the season so Mozgov had to play more minutes. One of the biggest reasons why Karl was fired after winning COY was because Karl wouldn't start or play more minutes. FO wanted McGee as starter, not koufus. That's why they got rid of Koufus and made MCgee starter with Mozgov coming off the bench.

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I'm sure Denver would love to get out of Galo's $10mil contract and throwing in Mozgov's makes it more enticing for us.

Barnes has a team option after this season and Jamal's contract is non-guaranteed. That would save them $10 mil in cap space after this season which gives them more options.

If I'm Denver I would keep Jamal and see what a bench backcourt of Jamal and Nate Robinson would look like.

They also drafted Nurkic who can instantly be a backup for McGee.

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Why would they want to see that backcourt? They have Gary Harris who they just drafted. It's a very bad trade for them. Gallo is a good player, so is Mozgov, and instead of getting value for them, they are basically trading them for cap space. They trade the two best players in the trade. If we got those two guys and decided to trade them, we would net much more than Jamal, Barnes and Dudley.

I was about to mention Nurkic, but is he coming over right away? Also, they seem to be more pleased with Mozgov than McGee, Denver fans when projecting their lineups put Mozgov as the starter over McGee even, and Mozgov is on a GREAT deal in comparison to his production. I know their FO feels pressure to play McGee, but you'll probably see a 27/21 split in the end.

I get that we want Gallo, but this would be like the worst trade scenario for them, this is a trade you do if Gallo is a cancer and it is your last option to move him. Also, you're forgetting that in addition to trading for Afflalo, like I mentioned, they drafted Gary Harris. Their SG/SF looks like this:

SG: Arron Afflalo / Gary Harris

SF: Danilo Gallinari / Wilson Chandler

If you trade Galo AND Mozgov for our guys, as Denver you fill no need, you get no draft picks, basically they would be helping us with good assets and gaining nothing at all except for logjams and paying partial salaries for players to go away. Denver without Galo's salary is still over the cap, so they don't even get cap room to do anything.

Gallo isn't any sort of must move contract. Yea, he makes $10.9M next season, but then he is an expiring contract in 14-15. There's no hurry to move him, Denver will have a full compliment of a roster and be well under the area where they have to pay luxury tax. Currently they have 11 players guaranteed, Quincy Miller is a team option. Gary Harris makes it 12 players, if they bring Nurkic it will be 13 players, and if they retain Miller, 14 players.

In the end, what advantage is it for them to have this SG/SF core instead:

SG: Arron Afflalo / Jamal Crawford / Gary Harris

SF: Wilson Chandler / Matt Barnes / Jared Dudley

Denver's goal should be trying to package their guys to get a high level player. How about trying to send Galo in a package with some player to Minnesota for Kevin Love, there is a trade that makes sense for them. Not saying Minny accepts that, but that's where you start as Denver, then you move on to other trades like that before you accept two guys >33 years old and a guy who just had his worst season just to pay them to go away.

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I'm quite aware of this part, but it is hard to argue McGee actually being a better player to have on the court than Mozgov, and Mozgov took the starting opportunity and went with it. BUT, remember that even after signing McGee to his big contract, they still brought back Mozgov.

All that said, they might end up trading him, but it still doesn't make any sense for them to trade the two best players in a trade to basically just clear cap (they would still be over the cap because Dudley is guaranteed), so is Barnes this year I believe, and at least $1.5M of Jamal. They would be over the cap, they weren't going to pay luxury anyways, and they would have less talent. What would be the point of the trade, there would have to be a trade amongst the other 28 teams that beats that trade.

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It's not really hard to argue that point when McGee signed a 4 year deal worth 44 million just before the 2012-2013 season. Mozgov signed for a fraction of the price. Mozgov is the expendable one. The Nuggets needed a backup center since they traded away Koufus. It was necessary to bring him back, they had no backup. Mozgov is making 4 million a season so I can see a trade scenario if they want to free up money for another position. With that said, I don't see the Nuggets making that deal for our players if Gallo is 100%.

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I think you have to think of it not in general, but in this situation. How do we specifically justify asking for Mozgov? They can justify trading Mozgov if they will get some improvement, he's a guy they can certainly move, but this trade isn't an improvement for them.

I just can't see how you can justify to Denver that you want them to give you a starting SF (and we wouldn't be asking for him if he wasn't healthy would we?) and a borderline starting C for a 34 year old SG on a team with two SG's already, a 34 years old SF who is worse than your other SF and worse than 90% Gallo, and a third 29 year old SF who just had his worst season and you are just trying to drop.

You could justify making a trade for Gallo if they don't think he is healthy enough, and you want to take the chance, and they say "okay we'll clear space", but then saying while you're at it, why don't you gives us that good C too as if we're actually giving them value. They know they can finds teams who would just be willing to absorb Gallo for two years and hope he is healthy without trying to take more assets from them.

Does Denver make the deal even if he isn't 100% healthy? Do we even make the deal if he isn't healthy? Why would we do that? Which is why it doesn't work. We would want him if he is healthy, they certainly won't trade him for what is a trash trade based on their specific roster if he is healthy, and even if he isn't 100% healthy, it is a 2 year contract, they aren't in fear of luxury right now, there's no pressure to just trade him and they can milk it and find better offers, or even wait it out and see if he becomes 100% healthy before doing anything drastic.

ClipperKyle32
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We must be asking for Anthony Davis to come off the bench hahaha maybe we could snag ryan anderson. I hope we arent trying to acquire Tyreke Evans

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Maybe they are trying to gives us Austin Rivers and Doc is like "my son is not that good".

The only players that could make sense for us to be asking from their team salary and talent level wise are:

Austin Rivers

Anthony Morrow (if he picks up his option)

Jeff Withey

Alexis Ajinca

No one else on their team would make sense, so it would have to be some combination of these players. Tyreke makes $11M, we can't even trade Barnes for him, and considering Doc's love for shooting, I doubt he would be targeting him.

I could see Doc trying to get Morrow and Whithey. Maybe Ajinca because he killed us. Ajinca did have his first "official" better than bad offensive season in the NBA last season, but he's still a hack like Hollins, but hey, he has his 78.1% of his 114 NBA FT's, so maybe Doc likes the idea of a long big who can block shots but can also hit FT's. So down the stretch you don't have to lose length in order to get good FT shooting.

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ClipperKyle32 wrote:

We must be asking for Anthony Davis to come off the bench hahaha maybe we could snag ryan anderson. I hope we aren't trying to acquire Tyreke Evans

Possibly Darius Miller and Russ smith. Or Barnes and Jamal for Anderson and Rivers.

Just spit ballin here

ClipperKyle32
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I do love Ajinca. Dude killed us everytime

ClipperKyle32
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I think ChrisClipsLA reference is to Charlotte not New Orleans. That is gonna take some time getting used to

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Haha I'm an idiot. Maybe one day I'll get it right.

When I first saw his tweet my initial reaction was "Aminu!". We all had a collective brain fart.

Anyways that's way better. The Hornets have more assets.

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