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JamFan
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Many of you already know that we own the Minnesota first round draft pick, but it is top 10 protected. So it is great for the Clippers if Minney falls between 11 and 14 in the draft. They would have to make the playoffs for the pick not to be a lottery pick and Minney isn't playing well enough to make the playoffs. But we do want them to play well enough to at least fall at #11. They won yesterday, so they are currently in a tie with New York for the 10th spot. Minney and NY are both only 1/2 game out of the 11th spot currently held by Indiana. The Wolves have 13 games remaining with 8 at home and only 5 on the road. 7 of the 13 games are against teams with losing records while 6 opponents have winning records. So we have a shot. It they finish with a 7 win - 6 loss record, that might be good enough for the 11th pick. Or they could tank on purpose. Does anybody know if the pick has a time limit on it, when the top 10 protection goes away? Anyway we will be watching on this thread. This is so important because if we get Minney's lottery pick, we could package that pick with our own 1st rounder to move up and snag a really good player in the draft. Hopefully draft a player that really will make a difference. Maybe even a franchise player. Keep watching!

david
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According the NBADraft.net, the top-10 protection expires in 2011 and is unprotected afterwards:

http://www.nbadraft.net/draftnotes.asp

Too bad it doesn't expire after this upcoming draft since the draft next year is supposed to be da bomb. But it's probably not a big deal- if Garnett leaves the Wolves then they'll probably be crappy for many more years, maybe including 2012. But yeah a big "Go Wolves" for the rest of the season Smile.

ether
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For the long term, maybe the best result would be for Minnesota to lose and keep losing for a few more years. That way the pick woud continue to roll over, until finally in 2011 the protection ends and the Clips get their high pick.

Just a thought.

JamFan
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Nice idea, and thanks for the update on when the protection ends. But waiting and hoping that they keep losing just to get a pick 4 years from now is a gamble that we could lose. Meanwhile, New York lost to Orlando last night 94-89, which means currently Minnesota is alone in the #11 spot in the draft and if the season ended today we would have their 1st round pick in the lottery and our own 1st round pick. The opportunity to trade those two picks to move up and maybe get Oden or Durant, or one of the other top 5 players is to much to pass up. Get Excited! And hope Minney keeps playing well, and the teams around them in the standings keep losing.

jlemmen43
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Well Minny lost tonight...but the Pacers and Hornets also did. Cant wait to get the Clips back in action to see how "hot" they are.

david
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Yeah I couldn't believe the Wolves blew a *25* point lead to Seattle. That was ugly- now I'm not so sure if they could make 11th....

JamFan
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Right now there are 3 teams tied for the 9th, 10th, and 11th spots with a 30 - 40 record. Minney, New York, and Golden State are all tied. And all 3 are just 1 game away from Indiana who is in the 12th position. So anything could happen at this point. Go Wolves! Booooooooo Knicks, Warriors, and Pacers!

JamFan
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We certainly did not get any help the last two days. Phoenix lost to Golden State last night and the Cavs couldn't beat New York two nights ago. So currently, Minnesota is in the 10th spot with their 1st round draft pick protected from the Clippers. But they are only 1 game out of the 11 or 12 spot currently held by New York and Indiana who are tied with a record of 31 - 40. Go Minney, Boo Knicks and Pacers.

danobaseball
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Help me understand this. Aren't the non-playoff teams entered into a lottery for picks. Bases upon their records, teams recive more or less chanves of getting higher picks, but it is still up to chance. Just because Minn ends in 11th place does not means thet automatically get the 11th pick (although chances are they might). Am I right?

JamFan
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OK, New York lost last night. So Minney is in a tie with Seattle for the 8th and 9th pick, which means, as of today we would not get their lottery pick. But they are currently only 1/2 game out of the 10th and 11th pick, and only 1 game away from the 12th pick. The Wolves are playing mostly at home and mostly against bottom division teams to finish the season. So if they don't tank on purpose, we could still get their pick. Keep praying, or chanting, or whatever you do. So long as it works!

ether
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To respond to danobaseball's question: You're right, Minny does nto automatically get the 11th pick. They have a (small) chance to get one of the top 3 in the lottery. But the pick could also fall back if the #12-#14 teams get lucky and draw a top 3 ball. So it's 1-3 or 11-14, but most likely exactly 11th.

My question: If Minny's finishes 11th, do we get the pick even if it results in one of the top 3? Or does the "protection" protect against that (i.e. the determination happens after the balls are drawn)?

Does anyone know?

JamFan
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Geez, now you guys got me all confused. See the next post.

JamFan
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OK, I found the answer in an article over at Draft express. The pick is protected in the top 10 after the balls stop bouncing. So the final standings are important in the sense that the lower or higher that Minney finishes, affects their chances of the pick staying protected, but does not guarantee their fate. In other words, finishing with the 9th worst record helps their chances, but the balls could drop with them in the 11th spot, and the Clippers still get their pick. So, as we watch the final games, we want the Wolves to finish as high in the standings as possible, so as to improve their chances that their final ball drop will be as high as possible. So we will continue to update you on how they are doing, but all the while knowing that the final standings are not a done deal one way or the other. Right now they are only 1 game away from being either in the 8th spot or the 12th spot. And they have a favorable schedule ahead, mostly at home, and mostly against bottom division teams.

jlemmen43
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Minnesota won, and the Sonics and Kings lost...so minny moved up drastically.

JamFan
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Yeah, Minney is now tied with the Knicks for the 10th and 11th spot. They both would have been tied with Indiana for the 12th spot but Indiana somehow managed to eek out a 1 point win over San Antonio. Our best case scenario is for Minney to finish 12th and then let the balls bounce.....er drop. Next up, The Wolves host the Cavs Tuesday night.

JamFan
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Minnesota, Seattle and Indiana all lost last night, so Minney is in the 10th spot all by themselves, 1/2 game out of a tie for the 11th spot with New York, and 1 game out of a tie with Indiana for the 12th spot. Don't know where they will finish the season, but we will know if we get their pick after the lottery balls drop. Basically we need for Minney to win and Indiana and Seattle to lose.

JamFan
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New York and Seattle lost last night so everything is falling into place for a possible best case scenario for Clippers fans. Minney is now in a tie with New York for the 10th and 11th spots, and 1 game away from a tie with Indiana for the 12th spot. This Fridays game against New York on the road is big. The Wolves have 8 games remaining. Only 3 are on the road, with 2 of the 3 games against teams with losing records. Of the 5 home games, 3 are against Dallas, San Antonio, and Toronto. If they finish with 4 wins and 4 loses, that would be about the best we could hope for. 4 wins might just put them in the 11th spot, so long as they beat NY friday night. Then the lottery balls drop. Keep the faith.

JamFan
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Last night the Lakers did us a favor by going to Seattle and beating them on their home court. Even better, Minney beat New York. Indiana Won. So if the season ended today, and the standings were all that mattered, we would own Minnesota's lottery pick, because they are alone in the 11th spot. But the lottery balls still have to drop, and Minney has to stay in one of the 11 - 14 spots for their pick to be ours. Then we could trade two 1st round pics to move up and get one of the players in the top 5 in the draft. Or trade the two picks to get a proven veteran Franchise player. Someone who puts us in contention for a championship. Would Seattle trade Rashard Lewis or Ray Allen for two 1st round pics? Would Minney trade KG for those picks?

JamFan
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last night was a bad night. Minnesota lost and everybody around them won. So they are now tied with New York for the 10th and 11th spot, but only 1/2 game away from being in the 9th spot. Now we need Minney to win, and everybody surrounding them to lose.

JamFan
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After last night little has changed since Minney and everybody around them in the standings lost. So they remain tied with New York for the 10/11th spot in the lottery. What did change is Golden State winning and the Clippers losing, which means we are ever closer to maybe having two 1st round lottery picks. Based on where the team is right now, and their chances of getting creamed in the first round of the playoffs (if they even make it), we need to start looking at the propect of how we just might be better off next season if we can parlay those two picks into a veteran franchise player or trade them for one of the top 3 players in the draft. What would you rather have, a first round playoff debacle, or Ray Allen, Greg Oden, or the player of your dreams, on our roster next season. It is time for us to start looking forward. Personally, I'm praying for the two picks.

JamFan
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OK, the plot thickens. This could go either way. As of this morning Minnesota is in a 3 way tie for the 9th, 10th, and 11th spot in the draft. They are one game out of the 12th spot currently held by Indiana. There is a big difference between 9 and 12, when the lottery balls drop. Our chances of getting their pick are obviously a lot better if they are sitting in the 12th spot. The Wolves have 5 games left. They have Dallas, San Antonion, and Memphis at home, and Denver and Golden State on the road. They could easily win 2 of the last 5. I'm leaving on a "Wild Hogs" style motorcycle tour on Saturday and my access to computers will be limited, so I am asking David to keep this thread up and running for the final results. My last post will be after Friday nights game Wolves vs Spurs. Tonight they have Dallas.

Winning 2 of the last 5 puts us in a precarious position. Winning 3 of 5 would be our best case scenario, but all 3 of those wins are most likely to come next week against Denver, Memphis, and Golden State. Fasten your seat belts.

JamFan
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Well, we were dealt a devastating blow yesterday. The good news is the standings are exactly the same even though Minney lost last night, with Minney in a 3 way tie for the 9th, 10th, and 11th spot in the draft. The bad news is that Minney has made sure the team tanks without it being obvious on the floor. They did that by sending KG on a season ending vacation to California. Oh yeah, they called it a nagging injury that needed to be checked, but if you checked his numbers lately it is hard to believe he was hurting. So with a week to go, Minney is likely to lose every game without KG and will likely end up in about the 9th spot. Our only chance now of getting their pick is if the lottery balls bounce our way and they end up 11 - 14. Good Luck. I will update you guys again at the end of the season and after my upcoming Wild Hogs motorcycle tour this week.

Benoit_Benjamin
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We won't get the Timberwolves pick this year. It's like last year when the team shut it down so that the Clips wouldn't get last years pick. I think we're going to have to treat that one as a bonus...who knows when it's going to come but it'll be around sometime. Minnesota will continue to "tank" if they see that they are going to lose their pick. Of course, Garnett won't stand for this...I think the team will finally look into trading him over the summer unless they get a top pick or trade for another star.

Anyway, we'll have our own pick somewhere in the middle of the first round. But remember, we may also have another "high pick" coming to us next year in our big Greek center if the team decides to bring him over. I'm not sure how he's doing this year but he could be a valuable addition for a team that's thin after Brand and Kaman.

david
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Yeah I hope the Tankers keep doing the same strategy every year- eventually they're going to be so bad they we're going to get a top 5 pick from them in 2011.

But yeah it's great that we drafted Sofo- at worse he is a high-valued trade asset.

JamFan
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Well I was gone on vacation the last week of the season, off on a Wild Hogs motorcycle ride. The season ended for Minnesota just about the way I though. They sent a healthy KG on vacation to nurse an injury he didn't have and thusly protected their lottery pick form the Clippers. They lost every game after KG departed and finished in the 8th spot. But the lottery balls still have to drop, and there is a slim chance they could end up in the 11th spot, thereby having to give their pick to the Clippers. The Clips would then have two lottery picks and possibly could trade up or trade both of them for a proven veteran shooter, like Ray Allen or........

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