Biggest Loss of the Season!!

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Benoit_Benjamin
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There were many big losses this season. Losses that, if turned into wins, could have gotten the Clippers into the playoffs. There was the no-effort against Sacramento, the heartbreaker before the all-star break against Atlanta, the last second loss against a Bosh-less Toronto team. Yes, they were all big, but the biggest loss came way back in December. That loss was when the Clippers, namely "Dumb-leavy", decided that Shaun "Mr. Potential" Livingston was too much to give up for Allen Iverson. I said it then and I'll say it again...when you have a chance to get a superstar, you do it. Especially when your team is struggling and trying to gain significance in a town where the Lakers rule.

The Clippers blew a major opportunity this season. After making everyone take notice of them in last season's exciting run, they turned into the league's biggest disappointment this year. It didn't have to end up this way. One mid-season trade could have made the Clippers legitimate, not only in Los Angeles, but in every NBA city they went to. Trading Livingston and Mobley/Maggette (preferably Mobley) along with some cap space filler like Rebraca would have made the Clippers a quality team. Instead, the Clippers are left with a damaged point guard who failed to live up to his billing even when healthy and, who may never play again, along with a lost season that ended without being in the playoffs. It's really a shame. The Clippers had their chance to be an NBA force but ended up being, well, the Clippers.

toohipcliptoslip
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Time for my end of season rant

42,35,50 were predicted to be one of the most feared front lines in the NBA. MD (mighty dumb) starts 14 and 13 Neither has any offense. You didn't even have to guard 14. 50 is on the bench pouting and playing like a blind rhino. Why didn't management step in in Nov and slap CM & MD. Then trade rumors which I'm sure embassased and PO'd 50 even more. Morale is circling the drain. As BB said the AI trade was a no-brainer. Cat was having a sub-par yr, 50 was still PO'd AI is a slasher and better at it than 50 and a better scorer than Cat. Take your pick. Orthopedists are said to be the dumbest of Docs . Tony Daly should have known 14's health was suspect. Trade him. He may have POSSIBLY been good and POSSIBLY healthy (get well soon). It's also obvious that Z is a lost cause. All this is the fault of management. ( I'm surprised they didn't re-sign Cherokee Parks). Last yr. at Lakers @ Clipps, there were people wearing Red AND gold. One guy had a LAC/LAL jersey like Clipper Darrel. This year Corey gets boo'd at a Clipps home game.

Miquel
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It has been definetelly a horrible year...As I see it, for me there are many reasons...Everybody believed that our GM had worked well last summer getting Thomas and keeping the core together.I still think that we did some right moves...you always can wait for something more but trading Thomas for Radman was an upgrade...isn't it?Radman did great games as a Clipper.I wonder if it had been better to retain radman...Well, the other big movement was to sign kaman's contract extesion...We resigned him by an amount of money that he doesn't deserve looking this season.He has suffered a seriously decrease on his game.We expected him scoring 15 points and 10 rebounds but he has showed that we must still wait to see him dominate a game if he ever gets it...Another tough fact for our team have been the injuries.But which NBA team doesn't suffer injuries?..You always talk about livi's injury but in my opinion what have really killed us is Sammi's injuries...If this team wanted to do something important they needed a Sammy like the last year when he won many games down the strench...More problems: to have a Dumb-leavy.What is unacceptable for a coach is that with a lot of silly decisions you could decrease the level of your team...And Dumbleavy did it.He has been horrible the whole year.I'm not gonna talk about basketball systems, about different defenses... because I'm sure Dumbleavy knows more than me...but you can't damage your team with stupid polemical decisions like sitting Gette...Maggette is our 3rd best player and he must be happy because he can win games.Not Dumbleavy.To have a player angry doesn't help anybody and a good coach must know how to keep your players happy...Furthermore a player like Gette who has showed heart and desire every time he has been in the court.The other Dumbleavy main stupid decision has been to switch off Singleton.Every person who have watched this guy playing, ask himself why he doesn't play more minutes and why there are games where he simply doesn't play any minute...Incredible.If I'm not wrong we must decide if we want to resign him...I couldn't understand if the clippers make an offer to him because dumbleavy has had the whole year to play him and he just didn't do it.Finally to comment our draft.Who was?aa.I remember.Paul Davis?Yes, just a white guy who always was carrying the towels...Can he shot?Can he dunk?Can he play D?I supose Dumbleavy knows it...

jlemmen43
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Good points Miquel. I was reading an article on Foxsports.com and Maggette was saying how injuries were a big problem this year. The injuries were a lot less this year than last year. Except for Livingston and Cassell...but we seemed to play better with Hart at PG anyways. The key is what was said at the end of that article............

[[ Coach Mike Dunleavy told his players to forget about the draft, free agency and trades, and focus on individual improvement during the summer.

"The last 18 games of the season we played really hard and competitively against all of the top teams," Dunleavy said. "We defended well and guarded the ball better, and had we played that way for most of the season we wouldn't be in the situation that we are in now." ]]

Remember when Pat Riley was coaching the Lakers...and after a year of winning the championship, they failed to satisfy the following year. He told his players that if they wanted to win, they needed to find areas of their game and improve them 1%. Most of the players improved in areas beyond just 1% and dominated in the next season. I'm not saying we have the same talent as the Lakers had those years, but we are pretty damn talented, and just some individual accountability and improvement to key areas of each players game should take us to the next level. If everyone did what Brand did two offseasons ago, this team can be the ones taking on the elite in the playoffs.

david
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Personally I'm not sure if trading for AI would've cured the team's problems- maybe, maybe not. He certainly would've helped. However if you looked at how the team played overall the last few weeks- even without Cassell and Livingston they gelled by playing the right way. They were something like 13 and 8 in their last 21 games. And it kind of really started when coach and Corey got back to good terms, and Corey made a conscious effort to improve his defense and to look for his teammates more. Cat and Thomas also started to shoot better too. So this team- as is- is pretty darn solid and a legit playoff team. The question for next season is- do they just want to make the playoffs or do they want to get in there and do major damage? With a few more pieces to the puzzle they can do the latter. And like JLemm said- if everyone just improves a little, and then you add some of those pieces the team is just going to be that much better. Although we're all disappointed that they missed the playoffs this season we would be kidding ourselves if we thought they could've gone pass the first round. The Clippers should look as this as a golden opportunity to work hard over the summer and come back as good as ever.

I'm glad to hear that Chris Kaman is already committed to working hard over the summer. And I'm sure a lot of his teammates will be too.

LAC_12
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Well the addition of AI might have helped a few, but overall that deal was a short sighted, early gratification move that would send us into worse situations not too long later. I beleive we made a very good desicion to stay off AI, no one couldve predicted an injury. With a healthy very prosperous young athlete vs an old, mr attitude, trouble maker, ball hog, spotlight craver I would take my chances with the kid, HECK EVEN AN INJURED KID. Clippers do need to make a move though, they need a big bang to seriously get right back next year:( [hurts me to say that]. We need to make a smart move that will not be only for a short term. Yet something good can come out of something bad: This season shook off many of the bandwagons clinging from last years success. No playoffs, no fake fans:) We will bo-unce back Clipper nation STAY STRONG, AND STAY TRUE

jlemmen43
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LAC_12...I agree. the AI move would have only been short term.

Miquel
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ClipperNation will stay strong and true like LAC_12 says...I'm sure.But we must expect some movements this season...We cannot wasting more draft picks for nothing...This is a good draft and we must pick a player who could contribute to our team next year.Furthermore I expect some intelligent moves for this season: there are some players which are gonna be traded and we must remain ready to act...Bonzi Wells Mo Williams are the first names I have in mind...I have thought in Steve Francis but the only problem is his huge salary.I have no doubt that he still is an AllStar player

david
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Yeah I heard about that Steve Francis thing too- Mobley will definitely like that Smile. But yup the salary is just too much- unless he's willing to change it (which it's highly doubtful).

toohipcliptoslip
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Stevie Franchise is a talented player but will he be a team player or will he try to be a one man offense? Why not to LAL, he and #8 should work well together Smile. But money talks so I doubt he'll be walking here. This team ain't the Clipps of old. I was a fan when ? Kloss (the big skinny red headed alleged center) was here. Past teams couldn't win. We could've and didn't. I don't think injuries were the determining factor. The West will be strong next year and making the playoffs will be a real (...) but with good off season deals and players improving their game watch out. (Kayman, hit the weights) As far as fake fans give us 2 seasons where we beat LAL and you'll see the real deal.

jlemmen43
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Is Franchise a Free-Agent??? Keith Kloss was the alleged center, lol.

clipperfan714
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As long as we stay in the country during Pre-Season, nobody plays for the US basketball team, and there are no double weddings, we should be fine coming back this year.

I just hope the Clippers keep Maggette, and hopefully land a premiere point guard for next season

Benoit_Benjamin
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Hmmm...Allen "Coulda, Shoulda Been A Clipper" Iverson had 31 points and 5 assists to help Denver take game 1 of their playoff series. If only the Clippers could have been so "short sighted" as Denver and made the trade. Then the team could have still been playing and helped make sure players like Maggette and Brand decided to resign to a quality organization instead of possible leaving a non-contender in either 1 year (Maggette) or 2 years (Brand) when they both have player options. Anyone who says they'd take Mobley/Livingston over Iverson is crazy. Not only would the team have been better while Iverson was playing for them the next few years but they'd have major cap room when his contract was up. I still say it was a terrible decision and one the team will always regret.

david
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Nope- there was just some rumor that the Knicks might be looking to trade him. He still has 2 years left on his contract with like $32 million (!).

david
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Sounds good to me. I'm not sure how committed Brand is to USA Basketball, but whenever he talked about it he seemed pretty determined about it. Hopefully he changes his mind- I mean he wasn't playing all that much on Team USA anyways.

Clipper_Nation
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The Answer aint even no short term solution Maggs and Shaun still more valuable in long term dawg.....

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