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clippman21
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I say J Kapono good 3 pnt shooter and a vet PG J Hart- Sammy - ???

i like j hart him and sammy could switch at point

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Here's the free agent list:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2654216

Kapono & Hart sound like good choices. Jerry Stackhouse would be great if he choses to not re-sign with Dallas. Other interesting choices that the Clippers should be able to afford include Steve Blake, Matt Barnes, Bonzi Wells, Chucky Atkins, James Posey, Mikki Moore, Devin Brown, Desmond Mason, Grant Hill, Jamaal Magloire, Jacque Vaughn, and Morris Peterson.

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Jason Hart has to be re-signed. Period. Devin Brown and Desmond Mason are players I would consider.

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We already have Maggette driving to the hoop, Brand and Kaman working around the hoop. We need a flame thrower from the outside. Jason Kapono seems to fit that bill and he was a SoCal boy, played for UCLA. He might just want to come back and be a hometown hero. I like Jason Hart, but how many of you feel we can win the NBA championship with him at PG? If the answer is no, we need to find the PG who can. But it has to be a PG who can shoot, because we do not ask our PG's to be PG's. At least not yet under the current Dunleavy system.

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I agree a lot we need a shooter!!!

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Ummmm we left Moore and Martin and Barnes.... Lets keep it that way, not too significant anyways (but great pickups for anyteam). HAVVVENT HEARD ONE PLAYER: Billups?????? (i lied two players) AND RASHARD LEWIS!!!! If we get one of two that is guarenteed postseason berth and post 1st round............

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I like some of those names: Billups, Rashard, etc. But the $/cap situation might not work. Plus with Rashard you have another logjam at SF/SG. So maybe a mid level guy (Kapono) may be what they have to do.

It would be great to have an all-around PG, but they are hard to come by and pricey. I would be OK with a pure PG. We have enough offensive guys that a great passer would turn EB, Corey, Kaman & Cat loose. Of course, the Andre Miller experiment would prove me wrong (he was the NBA assist leader the year before he came to us).

Hart's good, but I don't think he's quite got the stuff to take us to the next level as a starter.

So: get a starting PG, a shooter, Cat becomes 6th man (he's our Finley/Stackhouse). Teach Kaman to get position lower in the block and make better decisions.

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I like that- the idea of Cat being a 6th man like Finley & Stackhouse. If we then get somebody like a Kapono and he starts, then there's going to be a ton of firepower coming off the bench in Mobley & Thomas.

But yeah Billups and Lewis would break the bank unless the Clippers do some sort of sign-and-trade.

As far as having a "pure" PG- I'll have to disagree. The PG for the Clippers needs to be a credible offensive threat or else the opposing team will double off of the PG position and leave him to do the shooting. I think that's one of the reasons why the Clippers were so successful last season- Sam Cassell. Nobody dared to double off of him- in fact some times they were double teaming HIM.

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We need consistent shooting obviously. If Jason Hart can produce offensively...It seems like he can, but we just havent seen that much of him...he's all we need in a starting PG. AS Long AS we have someone who will consistently shoot well at the SG position. When Cat is on, he's on, so hopefully he can come in off the bench, and we'll know for sure if he's "on" without having to depend on him as a starter. Ross is a great defensive man, but nobody thinks he can be the shooter we need. Unless we're missing something, he aint it. So who will start at SG?? That's the big Question!

We cant "get the world" on our team without "giving up the world". We dont have much for salary space. I think most of the pieces are in place. We just need to fine tune and maybe pull off a trade that works for us. It will be interesting. Kaman's game improving is really what we need to happen. With the two big men producing night in, night out inside...and some good shooting, ball movement and driving by Maggette, and we are right in the mix. Who will step up in 07-08?

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Oh and one more thing...Picking up an older (30+) PG is NOT THE ANSWER. We cant get older, we must put some solid pieces in place with youth on their side. Period! No Chauncey Billups (it dont matter how good he is...he's old and we already got Sam...look how many good years he had here-1). We are close to being an elite team, and this team can only afford a change if it is THE RIGHT MOVE. Nothing less. And forget the "Can't Pass Up" deals like Iverson. Teams have won championships with less talent than the Clippers have now.

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Jason Hart played really well but personally I just don't think he's enough of an offensive threat. Clipper opponents thought so too and that's why they kept doubling off of him. Jason made them pay a lot of times but I'm just not convinced that he's our guy if we're to advance in the playoffs. I think he'd be great as a backup/spot starter for the Clippers, however.

I think it remains to be seen what happens with the PG position- the draft should show the Clipper's line of thinking. Also it'll depend on if Mike Conley Jr. is available by the time they pick. If Conley is gone and they pick a shooter over Acie Law, then that probably means that they think Sam will be ready and maybe even Livingston might be okay by training camp.

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I think the Clippers should look over two areas in the roster:

PG & SG

PG: Livingston is still a huge gamble with his current status. Nobody knows how long he'll be sidelined and whether or not he'll ever develop to the premier player that the Clippers believe he'll be. No disrespect, but in order for Livingston to develop he needs to start each game and be the "man" in the PG position. Sam Cassell has been a huge part of the Clippers success, but Livingston needs more experience with wins/losses to get the confidence and develop skills. But now that Livingston is injured and Sam Cassell cant play as much minutes before, yet still clutch, the Clips need to draft someone like Mike Conley Jr. I see a Livingston/Conley Jr. Duo in the future!

FreeAgents: Steve Blake [PG]

SG: I really believe that the Clippers need to draft either Aaron Afflalo [UCLA] or Nick Young [USC]. Aaron is a vital puzzle piece in the success of the Clippers if he gets drafted by them. He moves real well off the ball and gets into position for either a jumpshot or quick layup. He can also move around w/out the ball and draw double teams once he's set so he can pass it to an open shooter/slasher like Maggette or Cat Mobley, or even throw a pass outside to Thomas or Mobley. Aaron Afflalo all needs to do is develop the courage to be more aggressive with getting inside the paint. He's a tremendous shooter from the outside perimeter, but he needs to develop an inside game to step his game up a notch. IF he's available, he's a must draftee!

Nick Young is also a player that the Clips need to really review. He's a great all around shooter. He can slash, shoot jumpshots and even make it from 3pt land! He's great with the ball and w/out it. He's a switch player PG/SG. He's great with posting up midsize players and can finish with ease. He's got a quick first step and a nice fadeaway shot. The Clips must realize that Nick Young will develop into an All-Star player if he's drafted by them b/c of the system that the Clippers use. Young has a few skills he need to develop, such as, body size, strength and agility and also set shots. But if he's drafted, he'll be a scorer for the Clips for sure! He'll be a Clippers version of Kevin Martin of SAC KINGS.

FreeAgents: I dont see anyone that the Clips could get outta the free agency b/c of the $ situation. Unless they trade anyone (I doubt they will trade anyone, "MAYBE" Thomas.)

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WOW!(see above post). Bulls/GS in 6. We will soon see the 1st documented case of spontaneous human combustion-Cuban.

Who does EB want to get rid of for lack of production? This may be telling. We lack PG's. Guys, SC is 37+ and all busted up. You can't make perfume from an old fart. If he plays at all next yr. don't look for much. True unless Hart can develop some offense he shouldn't start, but who will? He's still a bargain. We need a young SC clone but who? Do we another big who can spell/ replace Kayman? Wouldn't a good PG cost more in trade than Tim T? Draft picks are important but to keep the momentum as was stated above, we need trades and the F/A market ain't great. Kapono wants to stay in Miami (why?). Norm Nixon was introduced on TV as a Laker AND Clipper. With LAL tanking we could be the LA big dogs.

ether
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Toohipclip asks: Do we another big who can spell/ replace Kayman?

What do y'all think about The big Greek guy coming over to be our big man on the bench?

jlemmen43
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Centers are a limited quanity. Especially good ones. Kaman is average, which is not where he could be. If Kaman turns in a great year this upcoming one, then we have a big edge on most of the league. I say we need to give Baby Shaq a chance to compete for a spot on the team. He could be awesome, who knows. And we could really use a solid backup for Kaman when he gets into foul trouble or just sucks it up some nights.

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First and foremost we need a pg, I love hart and the way he played for us but he can't take us to the next level and we must use our draft pick to get a point guard. Connely would be great, but he's not goin to be there when we pick (unless the ping pong balls somehow work in our way). Therefore, the available one would be Acie Law who I think is going to be perfect for our system. As far as free agency goes, kapono should be our number one target, we desperately need an outside shooter and the 3-pt champion is our best bet. Other guys we got to look at are Mikki Moore and Matt Barnes, we've had both before and these guys are hardworking individuals that can do a lot of the dirty work and give us a solid bench. If we can keep hart, that would be a plus, but not necessary. We should also think about dumping either cuttino or thomas, I would say cuttino cuz he's not as versatile.

Next years lineup:

PG: Acie Law/Sam Cassell

SG: Maggette/Kapono

SF: Thomas/Barnes

PF: Brand/Mikki Moore

C: Kaman/Sofo (we should look into bringing Baby Shaq from Greece)

We can also bring in Diaz our international prospect as another possible pg

Most importantly we have to extend Maggette's contract, he's going to be even better next year

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I would love to have Acie Law on our team. He fights for loose balls, he defends well, he is very coachable, he takes and makes clutch shots (excluding that layup he missed against Memphis), led his college team, and is quick. I dont know how his passing or ballhandling skills are for handling general duties at the point.

Jason Kopono i dont know much about. Matt Barnes could be good. Mikki Moore's getting too old. Yeah he's a hard worker and is having some success in the playoffs right now, but he's only a temporary player. We already got James Singleton and he does what Moore would do, but with more youth and potential (if Dunleavy would play him)!!!! Tim Thomas is very expendable if you ask me, but who would trade for him?? Maybe to switch draft orders we could package him. Cuttino I believe we need to keep because he would be an excellent 6th man!! He offered that role before last season started, yet Dunleavy insisted on him starting. He's better in streaks, in doses. He can be a terrific role player for us.

If Kapono can shoot the lights out, I say we take a chance and bring him in.

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I like those names- Acie Law, Kapono, Matt Barnes, & Mikki "Snake" Moore. I remember that Mikki did great for us when he was here- he's really good at running the pick-n-roll. He would be a nice backup center/PF. Matt Barnes is an energy, hustle guy and he would help the Clippers but he would probably be better served being with a run-n-gun team. Kapono would be great since he can come in and help spread the floor, esp. if Cat and/or Thomas are struggling. If the Clippers can sign 2 of those 3 players to split the MLE that'd be pretty nice. I'd prefer the combo of Moore and Kapono- maybe $3 mil/yr for Kapono and $2 mil/yr for Moore. The Laker's Luke Walton might also be an interesting possibility, but he would probably be seeking the entire MLE.

Yeah I agree with JLemm as far as Cat goes- he's very valuable to the team- not only for his shooting but also for his defense and veteran savvy. He is actually very versatile- he can play SF/SG and even some PG if needed. He can post up, hit the 3, and defend the quick or big. In fact I even remember him doing a great job on Nowitzki in an early Clipper/Dallas game last season.

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Yeah people forget that Cat does the little things. Sometimes he'll shoot the lights out, but it's the other things you mentioned that he's had to develop over time that's kept him a starter in this league. I think we all agree that he should get a lot of minutes coming off the bench. Maybe we can swing a deal to have Walton come over and start at SG. We could send the Lakers Ewing and Thomas, plus some draft picks and maybe maybe it could work. Is he a FA though??? Or can we make a combination at PG and SG with Hart, Cassell, Law, Mobley, Ross, Walton...I dunno. Players are so versatile these days, lol.

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What if we trade to Seattle for Luke Ridnour and Ray Allen??? I'm no genius on this but...is Seattle is looking to get rid of salaries...could we trade our draft pick to them and give them Ewing, Thomas/Mobley and maybe Paul Davis or something?? We would have 5 solid starters and still have a core of backups. It would be great if we get Minny's pick...then we could send a pick away and still have a 1st rounder (Acie Law, Nick Young, etc...)

I'm just spitballin here. Let me know if this scenario would fly.

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As far as Walton goes- I think he's a good player- he improved his 3 point shooting and of course he's always been a good passer. The problem with him though is that he's not established himself as a consistent enough player- he really struggled in the playoffs vs. the Suns. I think if the Clippers can sign him for $3 million-ish/year that'd be fine, but at this point I think he hasn't proven that he's worth more than that.

As far as trade goes- we'll just have to wait and see. Ray Allen would be great Smile.

Though it's 100% certain that we won't be getting Minny's pick this year. They're #7 right now so it'd take 3 teams to jump ahead of team, and even then they'd be #10 and their pick would still be protected.

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seattle is under new ownership so i really don't know what direction theyre trying to go in: continue to add pieces, or unload salaries, regardless unless we want to give up maggette/brand/our draft pick, i dont see them taking anyone else in return for allen. walton would be a good addition but i dont see the lakers letting him go, and i dont see us giving him the money he would request because our goal should be a shooter, and whatevers left over after signing that shooter wont definately be enough for him. drafting law should be a must just as signing kapono (we really need a three point threat to open things up for brand/kaman). im a big fan of matt barnes because he can really do everything. moore may be old, but he wont cost must and still provide a great backup. singleton is great too, but not as big as moore and cant play those positions.

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Well if the Clippers can sign a good PG such as Papaloukas from Europe, then they may well draft a shooter such as Morris Almond, Bellinelli, Thaddeus Young, or my favorite pick for them Rudy Fernandez. Rudy really looks like he could be that X-factor for the Clippers. He could be the Manu Ginobili/Leandro Barbosa/Matt Barnes of the Clippers. But yeah I think if they do draft a shooter with the chance to pick Acie Law, then that means they've got a trade in mind or some good free agent PG locked up.

Here's a nice "player blog" on Rudy Fernandez BTW:

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile ... playerblog

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Also another shooter the Clippers might want to consider is well, a former Clipper (at least in training camp) and a former Dukie- Trajan Langdon. He's currently playing with CKSA in Europe and has found a nice niche there as a big time outside shooter. I'm not sure what his contract status is with CKSA but he would probably sign for cheap with the Clippers.

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How high do you think Rudy will get picked?? Is he on team's radar do you think? Or will he be a steal for some team?

I also believe we should take Jared Dudley in the second round if available. He'll probably not get picked in the first, but I think he is a solid player who probably wont be a star in the NBA, but definitely a very solid backup.

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I think Rudy Fernandez is someone who's proven and not risky. DraftExpress has him being picked 16th, while NBADraft.net has him at 21.

Profiles/Articles

http://nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/rudyfernandez.html

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba/nba-draft/ ... 43231.html

http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/11615/ ... tar-trophy

http://pistons.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ ... 6601078634

I think he can bring some mojo, shooting and athleticism from the SG position. Probably a lot of teams, especially playoff teams are looking at him as a piece of the puzzle. The problem would be the buyout $ with his current Euroleague team DKV Joventut. He is also a bit on the skinny side. Here are some of his highlight packages:

Here's a game video:

I like Jared Dudley- he's a proven guy at the college level. The Clippers would be crazy if they don't consider picking him if he's available by the time they pick in the 2nd round. I agree that he'd be long gone by then.

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This Rudy guy is amazing. This is the first time I've viewed the videos and articles. Now I know why you guys are so excited. This guy is amazing. He will have to get stronger against much more physical teams in the NBA, but he's very coachable according to reports and just an all out player. I think he'd be great here. Right now we got pick #14, so he should be available (HOPEFULLY)!! If we can't get him, I think we need to look at Arron Afflalo and Acie Law. Those are our best 3 options if you ask me.

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I like to see some love for my countrymate Rudy...I have seen him playing so many times...I have wrote on this site about him so I'm not gonna be repetitive...I must say that I like David's comparison with Ginobili,Barnes and Barbosa...I definetelly think you are right David. I would like to add some more things about him.The first one is that he has been proclaimed as the best young player in Euroleague and believe me that it means a lot, second one and not less important he has been included in the first ACB team...This summer he will play the Eurochampionship in Spain...

I've read the name of Trajan Langdon too...Well, he could be a good addition to our team.In fact, Mike Dunleavy was in Athens last week watching the Final Four of Euroleague tournament...

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Yeah definitely Miquel- I just hope nobody picks him before the Clippers. They say he's too skinny- but look at Rip Hamilton- he's not exactly a Maggette either. Any word what his buyout would cost?

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ONE

MILLION DOLLARS!!

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I give some more information about Rudy.In this webpage you could find all his stats this year in ACB...Yesterday he just played another incredible game.

http://www.acb.com/stspartidojug.php?co ... edicion=51

One question: Does anyone know when is the draft lottery?I just wish the Grizz could get the first pick and finally Pau could play with a dominant player like Oden in the paint...On the other hand, definetelly Clipper's pick must be Rudy...If I must be sincere I don't know if he would play next year for the Clippers.I don't know. But be sure that he's not gonna be another Fran Vazquez case.Fran was picked the 11th but I don't know if he's really interested in coming to the NBA...Rudy has said many times that he would love to play in NBA so there's no problem...Furthermore I'm gonna say you one thing that maybe you don't know.I guess.Well, Rudy has one sister who also plays basketball and is playing right now in WNBA for the Los Angeles Sparks... 8)

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Thanks Miquel for the info. The draft lottery is in 9 days on the 22nd. Let the ping-pong balls roll then! So you think Memphis is not going to trade Pau?

Wow- that's interesting how Rudy's sister is playing in LA- perhaps that'll make him more receptive in coming over, and if he does come over he won't feel as home sick with his sister around. I think he should stay in the draft because next year apparently there are even more big time talent that could push him down in the first down. This year's draft is looking really strong so far too.

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"Hello Rudy, this is Donald Sterling. Hey we're gonna pick you in the first round. So don't get any ideas that you'll stay in Europe. Europe sucks. USA's the place. L.A.'s the real place to be. I know people think i'm a tightwad and I don't care about the success of the Clippers, but they're a bunch of pricks. You know you wanna be a Clipper, so just let us pick you or I'll send some mob guys after you."

Do you think that would work?? LOL.

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On Pau I'm only gonna say that he spoke when he arrived to Spain that the Griz were still interested on having him next year...Pau wants to be a Grizzly as far as he could play with competitive teammates and with a serious coach.On this he has commented that the best coach he has had in NBA has been Hubie Brown

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Hey Miguel, your english is alot better than my spanish. I couldn't make heads or tails out of that website you listed above. You will have to translate for us the highlights of Rudy's stats for the season and recent games. Why do you think we have you over there as the official Clippers Topbuzz Scout? You are our Euro guy, so give us the scouting report and the official stats.

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I like Luke Walton better that David does, mostly because he is a really smart player and a good playmaker for a guy who is not a guard. He struggled against the suns because he is not a high fly act. Against the Suns and Stoudamire and Marion, a lot of players struggle because those guys are so athletic. The whole NBA is going towards speed and athleticism. But the Clippers do not. We are a slow down offensive team. Walton actually fits into our offense. But like David said, we do not want to give him big money.

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Well I don't think there's anything wrong with a methodical half-court offense-oriented team that really focuses on defense. That's the formula of success for the Spurs and the Pistons. Personally I can't remember when was the last time a run-n-gun team won the championship.

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Could be Spurs and Pistons for another year, lol.

Let me ask you guys something:

Are the Suns and Mavs gonna play defense one of these years, or are they gonna come up short TIME And TIME AGAIN??? I think it's hilarious that one's a run and gun team with a spectacular PG who does most of the work and the other relies on Dirk who doesnt show up in crunch time. Defense is winning championships more often than not now. We just need more offense and we are right there with the Spurs and Pistons.

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Yeah I agree Jlemm- I think the overall philosophy the coaching staff has for the team is pretty solid. They pretty much want the guys to play great D and then move the ball on offense. Remember the season before last we were one of the top teams in terms of FG % defense, but this last season there was definitely slippage and hence one of the big reasons for the disappointing showing.

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Pretty good Combo Kapono and Hart

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I think everybody in agreement about Kapono but I remember in an interview he said he wants to stay in Miami. Has he changed his mind? I hope so

SteelLAC2010
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this is what they got so far

Restricted: James Singleton (T)

Unrestricted: Yaroslav Korolev, Jason Hart, Quinton Ross (T)

Limited Salary Protection: Will Conroy (no salary protection), Paul Davis ($200,000 salary protection if waived on or before 7/15/07, thereafter full), Daniel Ewing (no salary protection if waived on or before 7/1/07, thereafter full)

SteelLAC2010
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If I was the clips keep Hart, Singleton, and Ross because they are good off the bench players. Sign Kelvin Cato, Grant Hill, and Jumaine Jones

SteelLAC2010
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We could always look at the free agent that the Pistons got to see if they wanna sign on with us.

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James Singleton will be a great asset to the clips b/c of his versitility & playing ability above the rim! Rebounding and Monster Dunks! He may lack the ability to be a shooting genius but give him time..and i can see him being an AllStar for the Clips!

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Singleton is very good

toohipcliptoslip
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Grant Hill is too busted up. We have forwards coming out our ears. We need guards (and a back-uo Center)

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true you're exactly correct on that one. Our main holes I see under TSN.com is point guard and small forward. Backup center could help a lot too.

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I wouldn't go that far, but it'd be nice to see him get more playing time! Also it's not certain if he'll be back with the Clippers- I sure hope so though.

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