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    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: is dumbleavy GOD or what ????  PostPosted: Feb 01, 2009 - 10:58 PM PST
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    outside of maybe baron, i dont see any players giving up on the team or the coach himself. even baron keeps saying all the right things, although sometimes his body language says otherwise. seems to me that everyone is still playing hard for coach, which says to me that they still are motivated by and believe in him. if i saw the players giving up on him i would have to agree with you, but i dont see it. even bill simmons, my favorite sports columnist bar none, keeps writting how the players have turned on MDS. where and how?? i see most everyone playing their azzes off night in and night out. even if the execution and consistancy arent there yet, the heart is....
     
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    clipper321 wrote:
    Yyou are wrong about Andrea bargani he is a great player so obviously you havent been watching him... hes been playing better and better lately its just taken time for him to get used to his role. However, Gordon was NBA ready from the start so I doubt you can give dunleavy any credit at all, he had no choice but to play him. Seriously anyone who sticks up for dunleavy right now is an upright fool you just cannot keep making exuses for this team. The coach is a huge part of a teams performance and obviously he hasnt even done well with what he has, if anything hes hampered the team even when they are playing well with all his incessent technical fouls.


    Excuses? We are not a good team, pretty plain and simple. I just try to look on some of the bright side of bad situations at times, like even though we stink, I have to say that our young guys are doing well and I think Dunleavy is a big reason for that. If you want to be a negative nancy and complain about the coaching, that's fine, but don't call us "fools" for noticing things that you don't.
     
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    team fiend.... 25 turnovers to me does not say much of anything but careless basketball. Why would baron say otherwise! Look at the position hes in, he came to this team to turn it around why would he get negative that would just put him in deeper water then he already is. The only young guy who is doing well to me is Eric gordon, and I dont think that Deandre or Thornton have merited doing well yet. You say we arent a good team, well if we arent then you have to look into the reasons we arent doing well, I mean look beyond the injuries and get to the nitty gritty. Im not complaining about the coaching im arguing that we need a change. Honestly if we had at least beat the wizards I would probably not be posting this but cmon.... its the Wizards!!! A team that as most have said has many more injuries then even this team does!
     
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    Some noteworthy quotables:

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    "Mike Dunleavy does less with more than any coach in any sport at any level I have ever witnessed in my life." - from a poster on another Clippers' board.


    WOW. Just WOW.

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    “It would be the biggest mistake you ever made,” Dunleavy said Tuesday in response to Sterling’s win-now-or-else comments made here a day earlier.
    “It’s his team and he can do whatever he likes … but look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don’t think they are going to do as good a job as I do. And that’s period.”

    “You give me the budget,” Dunleavy said, “and I’m going to be OK with it. I’m not asking anyone to go to the luxury tax.

    “But if we gather information and put deals in place that I think benefit the team and somebody who is not in basketball operations disagrees with it, sorry, you’ve just taken it out of my hands.”

    “We are in a great situation as long as basketball people around here make the basketball decisions,” Dunleavy said. “As long as I am here, I’ll take full responsibility for it, and I guarantee you everybody is going to be happy.”


    I have never witnessed such a delusional man. Look at all those quotes. You could dissect every line and go off on it. Like it or not, we're all just toys in Dumbleavy's play pen.
     
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    ^^^ those comments were made today?

    wish MD displayed that kind back bone during gametime. that was some pretty brass balls thing to say that was a slap in the face to DTS saying DTS didn't have the balls to do it. Guess MD never heard of the word Humble any other owner in the league would have thrown him on his @$$ weeks months ago.
     
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    ^^^ no those MD quotes were from last season when him and Sterling were getting into it.

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    Icecoldclipper wrote:
    ^^^ those comments were made today?

    wish MD displayed that kind back bone during gametime. that was some pretty brass balls thing to say that was a slap in the face to DTS saying DTS didn't have the balls to do it. Guess MD never heard of the word Humble any other owner in the league would have thrown him on his @$$ weeks months ago.


    No, I think most of those comments were from last season.

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    “It’s his team and he can do whatever he likes … but look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don’t think they are going to do as good a job as I do. And that’s period.”


    I actually agreed with this statement when he said it. We were a depleted team at the time. Furthermore, he stood up to a man very few have. Whether you agree with Dunleavy or not, that was a gutsy move by him.

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    Promise kept! And from what most here wrote before season's start, . He did a great job at it. Now, as far as making the pieces work, that is a different story.

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    I think this was the deal that was NULL & VOID by DTS. The Udrih ( Spurs) for Maggette deal.

    I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH DUNLEAVY ON THIS ONE.

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    Not sure where this came from but again, I think he was taking a jab at DTS.
     
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    the clippers best season in franchise history came when 1) mds was coach 2) his team managed to stay relativly healthy throughout the season (outside of livingston) 3) his number one and best option is his power forward.
    i know no one wants to hear it, but just give the guy the rest of the season with this squad healthy and lets see how they do. we all pretty much agree this season is lost, so theres not much to lose. coach was the guy that put this team together, and made some fantastic moves to do it(with his back against the wall after eb lied) nonetheless. if they can stay relativly healthy for the 2nd half of the season and we still are this terrible, then its a no brainer. coach will have no excuses and dug his own grave. but no one can deny that mds has not had a fair shake with the current line up with all the injuries. give the guy the rest of the year, i think he deserves it.....
     
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    Sorry guys but theres defintley a reason this guy was kicked from the last few teams he was on, and you know the only reason we even got that best record at 47-35 was because of Sam Cassel not Mike Dunleavy. There is something wrong with a coach who cant get more then 10 wins out of a team... this guy has a pretty fair amount of power in this organization and him being Gm and Coach will not work(it hasnt worked in the past and it wont work now and you can almost guarantee it). Debate it all you want but at the end of the day look at the records over the years and think about why this team has been so injury riddled over the last few seasons. There is no sense of urgency here from this squad with dunleavy at the helm and I really dont see any urgency next year ...
    One thing that has always made me chuckle... why does everyone think Elton Brand betrayed the Clippers... do you really trust everything Mike Dumleavy says think about it and dont just take everything that is spoonfed to you by the media
     
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    actually yes i do. if you choose to believe brands double talk and change of stories be my guest. i have no doubt in my mind dunleavy told the entire truth, exactly the way it happened, time and time again, and yes, brand betrayed us, the fans...
     
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    HA! Brand gave the Clippers 7 years of service and you know what I dont blame him for leaving... that year in 2007-2008 he saw that the organization was going back to what it was before the playoff run and he made the RIGHT decision to go to a more competetive team. To be completely honest I dont think he deserved to be stuck in Clipperland this year and suffer another crap record. Call me a pessimist but I do not like the way this organization is being run and if you believe that brand staying wouldve gave us a better record you could be wrong. We got zach randolph a 20-10 guy and guess what he lasted oh about 12 games before he got injured and put us back into the basement of the conference. This team has no valid leadership
     
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    something is wrong with a coach when any all star player cant learn under his teachings.. this coach has to go, and regarding Sterling wth is he thinking giving Dunleavy full control of the team... WE NEED A YOUNG AND EXCITING COACH TO BRING CHANGE TO THIS BALL CLUB WE ALREADY GOT THE PIECES TO GO TO THE PLAYOFFS JUST NEED THE COACH!!

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    amen 6 years of mediocrity is enough even Kim Hughes gave us a much more exciting game vs denver which we almost won...
     
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    i can understand where all the hating comes from, i really can. i just happen to think coach takes more blame then he deserves, but hey, so do all coaches. it comes with the job. anyways, my point was mds still to this day hasnt had this entire team playing for him healthy for any prolonged period of time. i dont see too much downside to letting him finish out the year to see if he can get these guys playing right. we can still let him go close to the end or after the season if things continue as they are and get a new coach before next years draft to take the reigns. id like to see what he and this team can do at full strength...
     
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    clipper321 wrote:
    HA! Brand gave the Clippers 7 years of service and you know what I dont blame him for leaving... that year in 2007-2008 he saw that the organization was going back to what it was before the playoff run and he made the RIGHT decision to go to a more competetive team. To be completely honest I dont think he deserved to be stuck in Clipperland this year and suffer another crap record. Call me a pessimist but I do not like the way this organization is being run and if you believe that brand staying wouldve gave us a better record you could be wrong. We got zach randolph a 20-10 guy and guess what he lasted oh about 12 games before he got injured and put us back into the basement of the conference. This team has no valid leadership


    You sound like a Laker fan, take it easy. Brand was lying, Dunleavy was telling the truth, Dunleavy is a good coach, Baron Davis was a mistake, plain and simple.
     
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    ya tiemfiend of course im for letting him finish out the season but the bar is set pretty low right now... sz you know its not right to make generalizations about other fans because we are all different. You know, all we ask for as clipper fans is 100 percent effort every night and thats it. That is why I am so dissapointed with this team... I dont mind a few turnovers as long as you try and play defense all my blathering is quite simply venting from this point on. No one should have to settle for less then at least trying to win a basketball game.
     
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    sz123456 wrote:
    Brand was lying, Dunleavy was telling the truth, Dunleavy is a good coach, Baron Davis was a mistake, plain and simple.


    Please tell me you're joking about the Dunleavy is a good coach part. If by definition of "good" you mean losing 20 of our last 22 games, then I guess we both have 2 different definitions of "good." If you still can't see that Dunleavy is the problem with this team, you really need to open your eyes. This team has lost games even without Baron. This is by far one of the most talented Clipper teams we have ever had, but guest what, we still are tied for the worst record in the NBA. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that the problem with this team is coaching.
     
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    BBCLIP1 wrote:
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    Brand was lying, Dunleavy was telling the truth, Dunleavy is a good coach, Baron Davis was a mistake, plain and simple.


    Please tell me you're joking about the Dunleavy is a good coach part. If by definition of "good" you mean losing 20 of our last 22 games, then I guess we both have 2 different definitions of "good." If you still can't see that Dunleavy is the problem with this team, you really need to open your eyes. This team has lost games even without Baron. This is by far one of the most talented Clipper teams we have ever had, but guest what, we still are tied for the worst record in the NBA. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that the problem with this team is coaching.


    dont really get what you mean with the whole baron part, but saying the problem with this team is the coaching is a huge oversimplification. there are problems stemming from plenty of places, too many to list so i wont, but there is more than enough blame to go around.
     
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    BBCLIP1 wrote:
    It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that the problem with this team is coaching.


    I'm no brain surgeon, but I think losing 20 of 22 has a lot to do with starting Collins at PG, DJ at C and Skinner at PF for many of those games and having a bench consisting of three only guys. With the roster as it's been after Zach and Baron went down I doubt any coach could have got many more wins. This roster is about as impressive as my Gauchos!
     
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    you talkin santa barbara ether??
     
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    Simmons did make a statement that tensions are growing from the players toward MD.


    Simmons the season ticket holder who attends 10 games? Simmons has always put down the Clips. He only goes to the games where the Clips are playing teams he wants to see. Funny how the main pieces are working their tails off. So what does Simmons really know?

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    im going with BB on this one AT THE VERY FREAKIN LEAST we could get rid of dunleavy... HE CANT EVEN MOTIVATE THE GUYS ANYMORE I WOULD BE SCREAMING AT THESE PLAYERS LETTING THE MAGIC GO FOR 200!
     
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    something has got to be done. if we dont win a game on this road trip, someone needs to get fired or traded. either we fire dunleavy or he needs to trade some people away for people who hustle and play 110% the whole time.
     
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    ^^ yeah, it is getting pretty pathetic out there.
     
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    I think Dunleavy hasn't stepped down because he has too much pride. I don't think he wants to go out like this, which I don't blame him, but something needs to change. Coaching change is the easiest move and I think most people in the league are starting to wonder why a move hasn't been made. I'd really like to know where Sterling stands on all this. Has no reporter asked him about it lol.......too mean of a question to ask?

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    I'd really like to know where Sterling stands on all this.


    Yeah, that makes me think. At first I thought Sterling just wanted to save money with Dunleavy doing 2 jobs for the price of one, but I'm really starting to think he has pictures of Sterling, there's just no explanation other than that.
     
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    Yeah, that makes me think. At first I thought Sterling just wanted to save money with Dunleavy doing 2 jobs for the price of one, but I'm really starting to think he has pictures of Sterling, there's just no explanation other than that.

    yeah man seriously is MD blackmailing Sterling lol. Baylor gets fired and MD gets nearly full power of the team. Him and Sterling where battling last season over the poor output....so where is Sterling this time?

    haha kinda makes you think....who knows.

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    Dunleavy probably has naked pictures of Sterling or something. I mean there's just no way Dunleavy would be still coaching this team if that wasn't the case. The more losses that we pile up, the more Dunleavy looks like an idiot. The whole league is just laughing at this team knowing that we still have this guy as our coach. It just makes me sick to my stomach. Not only are we losing, we're losing in embarrassing fashion. It's gotten to the point where I'm rooting for this team to lose every single game from here on out. The last couple of games are a good start. Losing 21 out of 23 games. Let's keep it up. Maybe this will wake Sterling up.
     
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    sterling is busy trying to sell really bad real estate... talk to some of my cousins in beverly hills and they all agree hes a joke
     
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    illastrate wrote:
    Some noteworthy quotables:

    Quote:
    "Mike Dunleavy does less with more than any coach in any sport at any level I have ever witnessed in my life." - from a poster on another Clippers' board.


    WOW. Just WOW.

    Quote:
    “It would be the biggest mistake you ever made,” Dunleavy said Tuesday in response to Sterling’s win-now-or-else comments made here a day earlier.
    “It’s his team and he can do whatever he likes … but look, you can find any coach you want, bring him in here and run the situation. But I don’t think they are going to do as good a job as I do. And that’s period.”

    “You give me the budget,” Dunleavy said, “and I’m going to be OK with it. I’m not asking anyone to go to the luxury tax.

    “But if we gather information and put deals in place that I think benefit the team and somebody who is not in basketball operations disagrees with it, sorry, you’ve just taken it out of my hands.”

    “We are in a great situation as long as basketball people around here make the basketball decisions,” Dunleavy said. “As long as I am here, I’ll take full responsibility for it, and I guarantee you everybody is going to be happy.”


    I have never witnessed such a delusional man. Look at all those quotes. You could dissect every line and go off on it. Like it or not, we're all just toys in Dumbleavy's play pen.


    tonights game is what mds was talkin about.... when the team gets healthy, hustles, plays team ball, and starts hitting some shots this is what it looks like. congrats coach!! lets keep it goin....
     
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    anyone can look good against memphis.
     
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    well how good did the rockets and washington look against them. memphis beat them both riding a two game win streak coming into tonight
     
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    wow memphis what's next the championship?
     
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    lol.... why do i bother??
     
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    teamfiend wrote:
    lol.... why do i bother??


    Laughing
     
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    keep Dunleavy... it be nice having first round draft picks until his salary expires...
     
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    Lets forget about the debate for keeping/firing Dunleavy for just a moment.

    What do you guys think about the following?...

    1.) After retirement, offering Camby a job on the Clipper coaching staff as a big-man coach. Sacramento did the same thing with Shareef Abdur-Rahim. Camby is way better and has more promising talent to work with. On top of that, he's already moved to LA, it would be a great opportunity for him.

    2.) Once Cassell Retires (before he dies hopefully) offering him a job on the staff as well. We need a serious guard coach considering the teams overall lack of leadership.

    To me it really doesn't matter who the head coach is at that point (long as it's not Dunleavy) because the individual level of play and leadership of the team will be higher. Hopefully adding a players coach to the picture will help turn things around further.

    What do you guys think?
     
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    AGREE WITH U ALL THE WAY ESPECIALLY #1 DJ AND IF WE DRAFT A BIG MEN COULD FOLLOW CAMBYS STEPS

    CASSEL COULD BE IN THE YOUNGSTERS FACE AND HE COULD TEACH SERIOUS DEFENCE........

    SAM COULD ALSO TELL BARON AND ZACH 2 BE DA LEADER OF THE TEAM AND HE COULD ALWAYS BE SERIOUS WITH THEM

    THIS IS A GREAT OPPURTUNITY

    AWESOME POINTS NUMBERFIFTHY
     
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    Fire Dunleavy... whoooooops Very Happy


























    can ya blame me?! Wink


    I like your option 1, and not for option 2 in all honesty.
     
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    I would defiantly do that!

    Is Cassell still on the celtics?? lol

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    FIRE DUNLEAVY BUT YOU'VE GOT TO ADD A VETREN GUY TO THE STAFFF TO HELP THE YOUNGSTERS

    LINDSEY HUNTER???
    ERIC SNOW??????
    BUT, I LIKE SAM CASSEL FROM ALL 3 OF THEM
     
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    I actually wouldn't mind Eric Snow mentoring some trigger-happy guards and teaching them to play some defense.
     
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    yeah all three are pretty good players......all 3 have expiernce too....
     
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    As long as our future coaching staff doesnt consist of Mike or Dunleavy...
     
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    ^^^AGREED
     
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    Anyone who can motivate his team and at the same time maintain control of his players.
     
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    sounds good... thats nothing extraordinary, it's a trait and ability most "real" coaches are already equipped with.
     
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    in other words, thats nothing special.
     
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    Hey 50, thank the other guys for making this a "fire Dunleavy" thread. Have to move it now...
     
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    CLIPPER$ZONE wrote:
    FIRE DUNLEAVY BUT YOU'VE GOT TO ADD A VETREN GUY TO THE STAFFF TO HELP THE YOUNGSTERS

    LINDSEY HUNTER???
    ERIC SNOW??????
    BUT, I LIKE SAM CASSEL FROM ALL 3 OF THEM

    Hey Clipzone, keep the upper casing to a minimum. It makes it seem like you're yelling....


    Thank you


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