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Post subject: Re: Future Clipper Coaching Staff
 Posted: Feb 10, 2009 - 12:20 PM PST
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NUMB3RFIFTY wrote:
Lets forget about the debate for keeping/firing Dunleavy for just a moment.
What do you guys think about the following?...
1.) After retirement, offering Camby a job on the Clipper coaching staff as a big-man coach. Sacramento did the same thing with Shareef Abdur-Rahim. Camby is way better and has more promising talent to work with. On top of that, he's already moved to LA, it would be a great opportunity for him.
2.) Once Cassell Retires (before he dies hopefully) offering him a job on the staff as well. We need a serious guard coach considering the teams overall lack of leadership.
To me it really doesn't matter who the head coach is at that point (long as it's not Dunleavy) because the individual level of play and leadership of the team will be higher. Hopefully adding a players coach to the picture will help turn things around further.
What do you guys think?
Definately love the idea.
Camby can be the bigs coach and help DJ and our future draft pick Griffins into premier bigs in the future for this league. At the same time, we have Z-bo and he can definatley learn a little Marcus who is the more experienced vet.
All 3 guards are great. I would definately go wtih Cassell, Hunter then Snow. In that order. Well Clipper Nation loves Cassell and his time being here in L.A.Plus he is a born leader of a team. All 3 can show our youngins on how to act, what to do in certain situations, etc. But definately Cassell #1 canidate.
Someone PM Mike Dunleavey so he gets this..haha..
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Future Clipper Coaching Staff
Posted: Feb 10, 2009 - 12:23 PM PST
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"HOW DOES THE BEER TASTE MOTHAphUKA... Mhhmmmhmmmm, SAMUEL L JACKSON, IT'LL GET YOU DRUNK"
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Posted: Feb 10, 2009 - 02:24 PM PST
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| I know this is old stuff but there isn't much else to talk about can anyone justify why this man is still the coach. I just moved out of L.A. about a month ago and I honestly thought he'd be gone by that time. It's obivous this team will not win this or next year if he's still the man in charge. I really sold it to everyone I knew that Sterling was a man who had now finally had a vision to win a title but this season he is proving that you can't teach an old dog new tricks especially in this economy Sterling seems to still be pinching for pennies....... Please Donald prove the world wrong and fire this chump. He's only the best coach we've had do to longevity. Any moron within six seasons can produce his record.... |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Future Clipper Coaching Staff
Posted: Feb 10, 2009 - 06:31 PM PST
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LAC_12 wrote:
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"HOW DOES THE BEER TASTE MOTHAphUKA... Mhhmmmhmmmm, SAMUEL L JACKSON, IT'LL GET YOU DRUNK"
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Future Clipper Coaching Staff
Posted: Feb 10, 2009 - 08:30 PM PST
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Also got to say when it was stated what coach could have done better with what we had I'll throw Larry Brown out there. Players respecet him and he makes the best out of whatever he has he took a strong team with no one all-star to a title (pistons).
The facts the man beat us with a roster that came together in mere weeks (in Vlads case a day), missing 2 starters and a role player and yet his team can win games shows me that winning can be done if everyone is on the same page. On top of that that team should be broken to the ground with chemistry issues because the core has been ripped apart yet they still play hard every game.
I'd admit I was starting to give in to the fact maybe it was all too much but seeing what Larry Brown and the Cats are doing reaffirms this team and coaching staff aren't getting it done. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Future Clipper Coaching Staff
Posted: Feb 10, 2009 - 11:59 PM PST
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| thats because larry brown is one of the best coaches of all time. he always teaches. he teaches the players the "right way" to play basketball, and if the players dont get it, he ships em off for players who will buy in. just look at all the players he let go this year. by next year the bobcats will be a playoff team, if not contenders. problem with brown is he never stays anywhere more than 2-3 years. but i would drop mds in a heartbeat to get coach brown. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Future Clipper Coaching Staff
Posted: Feb 11, 2009 - 03:31 AM PST
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NUMB3RFIFTY wrote:
LAC_12 wrote:
Off Topic:
"HOW DOES THE BEER TASTE MOTHAphUKA... Mhhmmmhmmmm, SAMUEL L JACKSON, IT'LL GET YOU DRUNK"
try to name where thats from
Dave chappelle!!!
"Winner, winner, chicken dinner!"
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Posted: Mar 11, 2009 - 07:12 PM PST
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| I can't believe over a 3rd of the people here don't want him to be fired. |
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Posted: Mar 12, 2009 - 10:56 AM PST
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Posted: Mar 12, 2009 - 12:15 PM PST
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Rockford wrote:
I can't believe over a 3rd of the people here don't want him to be fired.
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Posted: Mar 12, 2009 - 12:51 PM PST
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Rockford wrote:
I can't believe over a 3rd of the people here don't want him to be fired.
3rd of what 3/4 fourth? I think its more like 3/10 if we are going by scale. I have seen a siege of people turning on Dunleavy as of late I think the new wave started after the losses after Boston.
I came into the season a Dunleavy supporter because I love to watch a team that can play strong team defense ( run and gun is somewhat fun to watch for me but I love a solid mental game in the half-court between two teams can your set play beat my set play type thing)but it all fell off.
Things starting falling off for me when obvious areas where a coach shows his stuff MD consistently had troubles for ex. coming out strong in the second half, closing out a fourth quarter, or not even showing up in the game period. Now I understand this will happen to any team but when this kind of behavoir dominates your season as a whole that is purely unaccecptable. Some point we all read the injury excuses well then those happened and never went away so at this point the team should have learned to work with what they have. Then losing to AT THE TIME lower level teams on a daily basis while going toe to toe with big name teams but not finishing was it.
The biggest Morale killers for me and probaly for this team this season by rank:
1. Mavericks collapse in the fourth- To me Baron Davis has had a mental hold on the Mavericks franchise going back to the playoffs but that loss killed it and maybe bruised Barons ego.
2. Bobcats- this loss fueled everything that was possible a team almost completely rebuilt new system, new team, and new coach and they beat the snot out of us.
3. Wizards- If their was ever a team that the Injuries excuses could NOT be used it was this team right here. We got beat down by Mcgee,Critt, and Young. Which makes it worse becasue you at least want to get beat by Butler or Ant.
4. Raptors- Got our @$$ whooped at home on Christmas....Christmans man... are we talking about Christmas. Not only beat by what would later become or I forget if they sucked at the time the lottery bound Raps, but guys we got bodied. For those who don't know to get "bodeid" is not only to get beaten but to almost have yourt players get slaped across the face kicked in the nads, and leave the floor with hurt and battered (z-BO) this doesn't even happen in the NBA this mostly happens in the NFL. Makes it worst this was the RAPTORS the most notoriously soft team in the league.
5. Bulls- That game was so important because the following games were so winnable. We only recovered shortly to have the bucks rip our heart out after that. This lead to the infamous "EG incidient" case#08341451
in the files that have went wrong this season.
Bonus. 76ers- Getting beat by two former Clipper last shot Elton Brand and Andre Miller putting the dagger in the Clippers. |
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Post subject: Re: Official "Mike Dunleavy should be fired" Threa
Posted: Mar 18, 2009 - 07:16 PM PST
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Jay.r wrote:
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Don't even talk about playoffs when he's around...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwq7BYOnDrM
Nothing new with numnutz just want him fired......
also the officiall mike dunleavy discussion thread needs to be merged with this one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2009 - 10:22 PM PST
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ekker3 wrote:
elton_sucks42 wrote:
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if you're gonna come up with coaches that are ex-players, how about one that has actually won something.
How about Brian Shaw? Kurt Rambis, Mark Jackson? Avery Johnson is no loser. He got fired for winning 50 plus games.
no, im saying mark jackson hasnt even won as a player (and obviously not as a coach).
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Posted: Mar 20, 2009 - 11:14 PM PST
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| Tonight I honestly felt like he was trying to lose |
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Posted: Mar 22, 2009 - 06:06 PM PST
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sz123456 wrote:
Tonight I honestly felt like he was trying to lose
I honestly think that losing games while bumleavey is coach is better because the owners of the franchise will see that this baboon does not know what he his doing |
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Posted: Mar 22, 2009 - 06:21 PM PST
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E.G.#10 wrote:
sz123456 wrote:
Tonight I honestly felt like he was trying to lose
I honestly think that losing games while bumleavey is coach is better because the owners of the franchise will see that this baboon does not know what he his doing
thats exactly what i was thinking!!! at first i was getting pissed, and then im all like, dunleavy is almost gone as a gm, and this will be the icing on teh cake as he'll get fired as coach too! i love it! |
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Post subject: Don't know if this is already up on board somewhere??
Posted: Apr 04, 2009 - 01:08 PM PST
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From Bill Simmons' recent mailbag. Has this been confirmed or at least been featured in another outlet?
"From what [Simmons is] hearing, Clippers employees have been trying to sell owner Donald Sterling on the fact that Dunleavy's return next season -- if Sterling doesn't fire him -- will result in an estimated $8-10 million in lost revenue from nonrenewals (suites, club seats, courtside seats and season-ticket holders). Eight to 10 million! That's how unpopular Dunleavy is with the paying customers"
I don't like Dunleavy, but that is some serious smack coming from Clippers' brass. If money can't convince Sterling to get rid of Dunleavy, nothing will... |
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Post subject: Re: Don't know if this is already up on board somewhere??
Posted: Apr 04, 2009 - 01:12 PM PST
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EG#23 wrote:
From Bill Simmons' recent mailbag. Has this been confirmed or at least been featured in another outlet?
"From what [Simmons is] hearing, Clippers employees have been trying to sell owner Donald Sterling on the fact that Dunleavy's return next season -- if Sterling doesn't fire him -- will result in an estimated $8-10 million in lost revenue from nonrenewals (suites, club seats, courtside seats and season-ticket holders). Eight to 10 million! That's how unpopular Dunleavy is with the paying customers"
I don't like Dunleavy, but that is some serious smack coming from Clippers' brass. If money can't convince Sterling to get rid of Dunleavy, nothing will...
Interesting. Haven't heard this anywhere else but I could believe it. Look at how many people chant "fire Dunleavy". Not to mention members on this board that report to us from the season ticket holders meetings about how everyone there says they want him gone and don't want to renew if hes back. $8-10 mill.....wow that sounds like it's our entire fan base lol. |
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Post subject: Re: Don't know if this is already up on board somewhere??
Posted: Apr 04, 2009 - 01:58 PM PST
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clipps04 wrote:
EG#23 wrote:
From Bill Simmons' recent mailbag. Has this been confirmed or at least been featured in another outlet?
"From what [Simmons is] hearing, Clippers employees have been trying to sell owner Donald Sterling on the fact that Dunleavy's return next season -- if Sterling doesn't fire him -- will result in an estimated $8-10 million in lost revenue from nonrenewals (suites, club seats, courtside seats and season-ticket holders). Eight to 10 million! That's how unpopular Dunleavy is with the paying customers"
I don't like Dunleavy, but that is some serious smack coming from Clippers' brass. If money can't convince Sterling to get rid of Dunleavy, nothing will...
Interesting. Haven't heard this anywhere else but I could believe it. Look at how many people chant "fire Dunleavy". Not to mention members on this board that report to us from the season ticket holders meetings about how everyone there says they want him gone and don't want to renew if hes back. $8-10 mill.....wow that sounds like it's our entire fan base lol.
Tell you what, if we fired Dunleavy but turned around and hired Isaiah. We would have lost that 8-10 million no matter what. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: Don't know if this is already up on board somewhere?
Posted: Apr 04, 2009 - 02:16 PM PST
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| We're not hiring Isaiah. I think everyone in the FO realizes that's a step backwards and will make the fans even angrier than with MD. They got terrible press just for having a meeting with him. Not gonna happen. |
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Posted: Apr 14, 2009 - 07:38 PM PST
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Jay.r wrote:
I'm just thinking that we should fire Dunleavy now instead of by the end of the season because I think, this is an already forgotten season. At the very least, it could get the new coach and players more acquianted with each other so next year would be less of a trial and error.
its amazing how far off people predicted this season to come out. jay r. was like the only one who was right when they predicted how the season would end. serously, look at all his posts....  |
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Posted: Apr 14, 2009 - 08:06 PM PST
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teamfiend wrote:
Jay.r wrote:
As my last post before my boycott, I just wanna say:
Fire MIKE DUNLEAVY!!!
lol, what a child... see you back here after their next 3 game winstreak jr.
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Posted: Apr 14, 2009 - 09:24 PM PST
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clipperloyal11 wrote:
Jay.r wrote:
I'm just thinking that we should fire Dunleavy now instead of by the end of the season because I think, this is an already forgotten season. At the very least, it could get the new coach and players more acquianted with each other so next year would be less of a trial and error.
its amazing how far off people predicted this season to come out. jay r. was like the only one who was right when they predicted how the season would end. serously, look at all his posts....
I don't think anyone predicted the outcome...at least not at the start of the season. Those predictions he made were frustrations based on his feelings for dunleavy...that's all.
If you look at his posts, all the blame goes straight to one person. If you believe that, then you might feel he predicted it.
Now if you look at the season as a whole, it was a combo of coach and players. We had arguably the most injuries (revolving door syndrome) than any other team. Let's also not forget that the guys that were playing injury musical chairs, were the new star players.
Hell, how many games did we play this season with only 8 guys suiting up for a game? How many of those guys were actually starters? How many other teams had to deal with that?
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Posted: Apr 14, 2009 - 11:32 PM PST
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clipper*joe wrote:
clipperloyal11 wrote:
Jay.r wrote:
I'm just thinking that we should fire Dunleavy now instead of by the end of the season because I think, this is an already forgotten season. At the very least, it could get the new coach and players more acquianted with each other so next year would be less of a trial and error.
its amazing how far off people predicted this season to come out. jay r. was like the only one who was right when they predicted how the season would end. serously, look at all his posts....
I don't think anyone predicted the outcome...at least not at the start of the season. Those predictions he made were frustrations based on his feelings for dunleavy...that's all.
If you look at his posts, all the blame goes straight to one person. If you believe that, then you might feel he predicted it.
Now if you look at the season as a whole, it was a combo of coach and players. We had arguably the most injuries (revolving door syndrome) than any other team. Let's also not forget that the guys that were playing injury musical chairs, were the new star players.
Hell, how many games did we play this season with only 8 guys suiting up for a game? How many of those guys were actually starters? How many other teams had to deal with that?
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We might have had the most injury prone team, but we also have the LAZIEST team in the NBA. That stems from the team giving up on our so-called "head coach" to Baron playing like there's ALWAYS a tomorrow to Kaman bricking 28945845 one footers. Make all the excuses you want, but regardless of talent, staff, record, there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for how lethargic this team has been all season. Something has to change and the most feasible option is firing Dumbleavy for starters. Then we can cross our fingers for the lottery. |
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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 - 12:51 PM PST
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| This finale is suposed to be the "fan appreciation" . So I say give the majority of the fans what they want. [b]fire the coach. At least for one last night make this game exciting. |
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EG#23 wrote:
This finale is suposed to be the "fan appreciation" . So I say give the majority of the fans what they want. [b]fire the coach. At least for one last night make this game exciting.
lol yeah can u imagine at like afternoon today, we hear breaking news that dunleavy has been fired!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! damn, sterling would really know how to show his fans appreciation lol. |
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Seasons over! Dun's Fired! Oh damn, it was just a dream. Nevermind.  |
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Posted: Apr 16, 2009 - 01:03 AM PST
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MrB wrote:
Seasons over! Dun's Fired! Oh damn, it was just a dream. Nevermind.
Pass me that joint, bro.
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Posted: Apr 16, 2009 - 01:16 AM PST
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PaperClip wrote:
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Seasons over! Dun's Fired! Oh damn, it was just a dream. Nevermind.
Pass me that joint, bro.
Kidding.
haha love it! Have to be stoned to still have Dun coach after what's gone on these last 2 season. |
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Posted: Apr 16, 2009 - 01:21 AM PST
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Dumbleavy challenging players to come into camp in shape
Blaming injuries as a dominio effect
Lack of chemistry
Lets see if they use the facility on the off season and move fwd.
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Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 01:39 PM PST
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Dunleavy moved on in 1992 to Milwaukee, where he compiled a 107-221 (.326) record over four seasons while holding the dual title of Vice President of Basketball Operations and Head Coach. He stepped away from the bench prior to the 1996-97 season to concentrate on his general manager duties with the Bucks for one season before taking the head job in Portland.
I hope this is a pattern in the making. First he steps down from coach. Then the following season packs his bags and never comes back. |
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Elgin Baylor, named executive of the year last season, set the wheels in motion for Dunleavy's hiring. After he and Dunleavy renewed acquaintances on the tennis court, the Clippers vice president of basketball operations thought he had found just what his young team needed — a meticulously prepared, fiercely competitive, no-nonsense coach who manages players well.
Poor Elgin didn't know he made a deal with lucifer. Benedict brand has nothing on this guy. Atleast Brand didn't take anyone's job away.. |
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Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 04:55 PM PST
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EG#23 wrote:
Atleast Brand didn't take anyone's job away..
You mean except Mo Cheeks? |
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Posted: Apr 22, 2009 - 08:32 PM PST
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| If Dunleavy is fired as coach will it happen before of after the draft? The ball is really in Sterling's court. I really wonder how much money the Clippers will loose in ticket revenue if Dun is still around next season. I think we need a scapegoat for how bad the past season was and Dunleavy is the prime target. |
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Posted: Apr 26, 2009 - 07:19 PM PST
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I tend to believe if a coach gets the axe it happens immediately after the season a la the Kings...but I hope I'm wrong, for the sake of the franchise's future. After all the laughs I had at the expense of Matt Millen and the Lions, Dunleavy is carrying on Millen's legacy as a woefully unqualified person with more power than he deserves..at OUR EXPENSE! It sucks.
But hopefully he is relieved of his GM duties at least..ASAP. |
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Posted: Apr 27, 2009 - 02:17 AM PST
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| This has got to be the longest running thread ever. Until he is fired, it must be carried on. |
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Posted: Apr 27, 2009 - 11:42 AM PST
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Maybe it is just me, but I think Lebron James has the smarts to be a good NBA coach one day. He seems like he really knows the game- on the court we know how great he is becoming, but also when he does interviews during/after games, he just has a great understanding for the game.
As for our coach as of now, I heard that Dunleavy was doing an interview the other day and said he doesnt plan to give up either role he has now this season. I heard this mentioned briefly in the radio interview in another thread. hearing that kind of makes me mad. you would think the guy would at least consider bringing in someone else. i have a hard time seeing the players still responding to him and wanting to play for him, but i could be wrong.
dunleavy has to be on a short leash this next season in my opinion. |
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Posted: Apr 27, 2009 - 12:36 PM PST
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| The dude is on a huge power grab, regardless the results he produces. He's gonna play the whole "if we were only healthy" card forever, but as Simmons noted, he brought in some of the most injury plagued people ever so they're gonna continue to get hurt all the time. The guy is just infuriatingly annoying and even though Clippers have had some horrible GM's and coaches in the past, I can't remember one who's such a jerk. |
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mattafact wrote:
The dude is on a huge power grab, regardless the results he produces. He's gonna play the whole "if we were only healthy" card forever, but as Simmons noted, he brought in some of the most injury plagued people ever so they're gonna continue to get hurt all the time. The guy is just infuriatingly annoying and even though Clippers have had some horrible GM's and coaches in the past, I can't remember one who's such a jerk.
He ran the Bucks into the ground, now he's jumpin at the opportunity to run us into the equator. |
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| ^^^ Illastrate we are so far into the ground that we will be in China soon. Fellas git ur passports ready!!! |
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I saw today Stan Van Gundy take responsibilty for some of the poor play of his players. Somewhere along the lines of I have to try and get them better shots. He may be a front runner but damn that must have felt a little good for the fans to know the guy realizes that some of it is his fault.
Now how can a coach that is in the playoffs take responsibility for his actions yet we are in the gutter and noo one has heard from teh mstermind himself. |
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Icecoldclipper wrote:
I saw today Stan Van Gundy take responsibilty for some of the poor play of his players. Somewhere along the lines of I have to try and get them better shots. He may be a front runner but damn that must have felt a little good for the fans to know the guy realizes that some of it is his fault.
Now how can a coach that is in the playoffs take responsibility for his actions yet we are in the gutter and noo one has heard from teh mstermind himself.
Don't get ahead of yourself. He needs to start by taking responsibility for those suits. |
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Post subject: Why Dunleavy Should Be Fired As Both A Coach And A GM!
Posted: Apr 30, 2009 - 01:50 AM PST
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1. He has no system of play/style of play. He just brings in random players with talent ("big names") without thinking of 1. their contrasting styles of play and 2. their injury histories. He brought in Baron only to feud with him on style of play: couldn't u have talked about style of play b4 signing off on the contract??? Randolph: nobody wanted this guy, and for good reason. however, dunleavy being the video game like GM he is brought him in blinded by his stats. One move which no one talks about that was dumb was when he trade Brevin Knight for Jason Hart. Knight was the better player, however dunleavy made the deal bcuz he thought that hart would be a better 3rd pg/mentor for mike taylor than knight. Well if he got him for his locker room stuff and mentoring: then why did he release him mid way through the season??? Then there is the releasing of josh powell for brian skinner. WHY??? Powell was young and more productive than skinner and was cheaper, yet he lets him go for skinner.
Now to the coaching part:
He is so bad at substituting and taking timeouts. Once again he thinks he is playing a video game. Why in the world would u put in a shooter who has not played the entire game and is therefore cold in the game for the most important play of the game: see novak substitution every close game... Then, in game 5 of the suns series in the playoffs, he puts in cold players off the bench that are therefore slower to react to playoff game action for the most critical play in franchise history! Not only are these players cold, but they are also bad matchups: see Daniel Ewing vs. Raja Bell. Now to timeouts. He lets leads of the opposing team build to much b4 taking timeouts. If your team is playing like crap but the lead is not changing: take a timeout and focus ur players - especially on a team with no leader. Also, when we our up, see the Cavs game, he waits way too long to take timeouts. If your up by 20, don't wait till its 11 or 10 points, wait only till its 14 at the latest. When u are engineering a comeback, its not all at once. u have to do it in about 3 parts. 20 to 14, 14 to single digits, 9 to one possession. If u wait till its a 10 point game, u are letting the other team skip a phase and therefore giving them time to add another phase: take the lead phase. 1 more thing, he is bad at motivating players. Don't tell me its not true and i don't have real facts. Look, if a team loses there first game by 39 to one of the best teams in the league and finishes the year with a loss to one of the worst teams by 41, then the team did not improve through the year. If u can't motivate ur team to win on fan appreciation night to reach 20 wins and to end on a good note, then u can't motivate. No team that respects their coach would play like that to end the season when they now their coach's job might be on the line. If 99% of the players don't respect the coach, then obviously its the coach not the players that is causing the rift. I agree though that some players need to go for that reason also. One more thing: look at the OKC Thunder. They played their hearts out from start to finish under their new coach scott brooks the whole time he was there to keep him there. The clippers on the other hand, gave up on their coach mid way through the season at the very latest. The players are not going to magically respect dunleavy, change has to be made! |
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Post subject: RE: Why Dunleavy Should Be Fired As Both A Coach And A GM!
Posted: Apr 30, 2009 - 02:10 AM PST
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Posted: Apr 30, 2009 - 02:34 AM PST
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1. He has no system of play/style of play. He just brings in random players with talent ("big names") without thinking of 1. their contrasting styles of play and 2. their injury histories. He brought in Baron only to feud with him on style of play: couldn't u have talked about style of play b4 signing off on the contract??? Randolph: nobody wanted this guy, and for good reason. however, dunleavy being the video game like GM he is brought him in blinded by his stats. One move which no one talks about that was dumb was when he trade Brevin Knight for Jason Hart. Knight was the better player, however dunleavy made the deal bcuz he thought that hart would be a better 3rd pg/mentor for mike taylor than knight. Well if he got him for his locker room stuff and mentoring: then why did he release him mid way through the season??? Then there is the releasing of josh powell for brian skinner. WHY??? Powell was young and more productive than skinner and was cheaper, yet he lets him go for skinner. Rolling Eyes
Ok, where do I start? Dunleavy has always been a defensive minded coach. He had a plan before Brand left. Brand lobbied Dunleavy to bring in
Baron...it wasn't Dunleavy's idea...he didn't know he was leaving. This was Brand's & Baron's idea to come here. You also have to take into consideration that Dunleavy was trying to keep Brand from leaving and if that meant bringing in Baron to keep Brand, he was and did do it.
That bringing in random players is not true. He is meticulous about the players he wants and he has proven that (i.e Gordon, Camby, Thornton). Dunleavy knows what he wants and I think it is obvious he has made some right choices. As far as not talking to baron about the style of play, look no further than baron's press conference ( go to the Clipper's site and look it up).
Now, if you look at the Randolph trade, he was looking to get him soon after Brand left in the off-season. Dunleavy wanted him to replace Brand. If any player has similar skill sets as Brand, it is Randolph. Dunleavy wanted to get Randolph so he wouldn't have to alter his system. Since NY didn't want to give him up, he went to plan B. That's when Camby came into the picture. Camby WAS NOT his first choice but again, he made a good GM decision based on who was available and wouldn't break the bank.
And since Baron started to complain to press about Dunleavy's style, Dunleavy chose to go back and see about getting a player that would be a mold of his old player Brand. I am only assuming but based on the time line and how things transpired, I can only assume that is what happened.
The trade for Hart was a good trade based upon what both player did when they were here. Hart was playing great when he first came here to replace Cassell. Brevin was just average at best. I'd pull that trade too. It was a guesstimate based upon the production of both players.
As far as bringing in Hart to mentor Taylor, that just isn't true. Hart was brought in to be the back-up...that's it. How is a career back-up PG going to mentor a third stringer?
And the reason why Hart was released ( guessing here) was he lack of productivity and productivity of Taylor. Did Taylor not replace Hart during the season?
I am not sure why Powell was released but I do know that Powell played more minutes when he was here only by default. Brand was injured and Dunleavy brought him in to fill the gap. Skinner didn't have the chance to rake in as much minutes as Powell but when Skinner was on his game, he outplayed Powell when he was here and even now with the Lakers.
Look no further than his stats this year versus when he was here.
If you notice the drop off, it is because of his lack of playing time with the Lakers.
Anyhoo, I am a bit tired now so I would love to carry this conversation further, tomorrow.
Note: too tired to spell check. lol |
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| I'll merge it tomorrow. This was a long post that took some time. I think it would be bad to just have it lost in the FIRE DUNLEAVY thread before anyone sees it and has a chance to chime in. Plus, he is pretty new here so I'll just give him him a pass. Plus plus, there isn't really much to talk about now that the season is over.lol |
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Post subject: 2009-2010 Fire dun sleavy thread
Posted: Jun 19, 2009 - 02:03 PM PST
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| clip nation lets not let this man screw up another season...we have talent now lets do something with it.. any coaching suggestions? rambis? jvg? theus? |
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Post subject: RE: 2009-2010 Fire dun sleavy thread
Posted: Jun 19, 2009 - 02:06 PM PST
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| Sorry Sean, I have to move this to the official fire Dunleavy thread....I will update the sticky up on top. |
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Post subject: RE: 2009-2010 Fire dun sleavy thread
Posted: Jun 19, 2009 - 02:06 PM PST
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Me thinks you are trying to see how many thread you can get locked and how many you can start before you get banned. Good luck.
ETA: if you are serious though, Mark Jackson if Dunleavy messes up the draft. |
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Post subject: RE: 2009-2010 Fire dun sleavy thread
Posted: Jun 19, 2009 - 02:16 PM PST
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| me thinks you are a little to touchy, ron. i am serious we need to let this knucklehead go, pronto |
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