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Post subject: All Star Reserves Announced Early - Kaman Snubbed
 Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 01:52 PM PST
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Here is the link...No Kaman, but Pau Gasol. Horrible. Here is the link:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_d ... nba,216300
Also, congrats to Gerald Wallace of the bobcats. I'm glad the coaches in the east rewarded someone on that team. Hopefully someone is injured for the West and Kaman can replace them- he really is the next person in the west deserving of a spot on that team. |
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Post subject: RE: All Star Reserves Announced Early
Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 02:01 PM PST
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| I was going to watch the All-Star Game, only to see Kaman play, but I guess I'll make other plans for February 14th. |
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Post subject: RE: All Star Reserves Announced Early
Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 02:02 PM PST
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Post subject: RE: All Star Reserves Announced Early
Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 02:06 PM PST
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Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 02:29 PM PST
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pau freakin' gasol?
its gonna be interesting to see how kaman reacts to this on the court.
btw, does anyone even watch the all-star game? |
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Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 02:41 PM PST
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| isnt there a wild card or somthing?? If we would of won yesterday do you thing kaman would of been at all star weekend? |
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Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 02:47 PM PST
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ekker3 wrote:
pau freakin' gasol?
its gonna be interesting to see how kaman reacts to this on the court.
btw, does anyone even watch the all-star game?
Actually, considering how things went right after the two times Kaman has been named Western Conference player of the week this year, I'm almost glad he didn't make it. He probably would have gone into the tank completely if he got made an all star.
My only real objection to the all-star subs is with Gasol. I know he's a perennial all-star on one of the best teams in the league, but I think he's missed too many games to really deserve it. Everyone else is legit though.
As for watching the game, yes, I usually tune in. However, I don't watch that intently. I usually have it one in the background while I do other things. |
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Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 02:50 PM PST
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Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 03:00 PM PST
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pau is the only one that really bothers me. everyone else on there i think deserves it more than kaman.
i am still pretty upset that he didnt get it, but at least there was no andrew bynum or kevin love, as i saw quite a few writers pick over kaman. |
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Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 03:02 PM PST
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Coaches voted for the all-star reserves prior to midnight on Sunday according to Mike and Ralph during the Wizards game Sunday morning, so losing to the nets and celtics this week had nothing to do with this. Clearly, the coaches voting didnt base it off of recent games either, because Gasol missed 2 free throws to tie a game vs the Cavs last week and also went up extremely soft for a layup only to get blocked when LAL could have taken the lead. Gasol also was the one who fouled Hedo to give the Raptors those free throws in the Lakers loss.
I doubt I watch this game unless a miracle happens and Kaman gets into the game. Its a shame too, because with all of the passing guards on the west (Nash, D-Will and CP3) I bet Kaman would have been the beneficiary of a few nice passes for easy buckets.
I would expect a typical player to want to show the coaches they made a bad choice after being snubbed, at the very least Kaman should go off for a week or two or something. However, this is just another blow to this tough season and after a loss to the nets I cant see things being too great for the remainder of the year. |
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Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 03:04 PM PST
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i hate the argument that players on sub-par teams are often overlooked. is it they're fault that they play for a disfunctional franchise?
why does derrick rose, who plays for an borderline-mediocre eastern conference team.
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god forbid the lakers only get 1 selection. the nba champs with only kobe representing? no way. |
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pau freakin' gasol?
its gonna be interesting to see how kaman reacts to this on the court.
btw, does anyone even watch the all-star game?
Yeah it was pathetic they voted him in.
I watch the game and its always entertaining. I just cant get enough of the NBA so to see all those guys on the court at once is always entertaining. |
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Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 03:30 PM PST
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ekker3 wrote:
i hate the argument that players on sub-par teams are often overlooked. is it they're fault that they play for a disfunctional franchise?
why does derrick rose, who plays for an borderline-mediocre eastern conference team.
blah.
god forbid the lakers only get 1 selection. the nba champs with only kobe representing? no way.
i was surpised the entire faker team didn't get on the roster.... |
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Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 03:34 PM PST
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| ehh Kaman probably would've embarassed himself out there anyway |
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Posted: Jan 28, 2010 - 04:01 PM PST
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| there's only been 3 true centers this decade that have posted numbers on par with 2010 kaman: shaq, dwight, and alonzo. |
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ekker3 wrote:
there's only been 3 true centers this decade that have posted numbers on par with 2010 kaman: shaq, dwight, and alonzo.
And also- I think it needs to be pointed out that in this era of the NBA- Kaman is one of the few, few true centers who actually has a nice set of post moves. Most true centers these days (See bynum, d-howard, oden, perkins, dampier, the list goes on) really dont do much more than put back and dunk off of teammates assists.
While Kaman benefits a lot from running the floor and passes from Baron, he still has some of the best moves a true center has these days. |
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| it looks like roy wont play so i hope they give teh spot to kaman, and i hope pau gets injured and kaman gets in. this isnt fair. IF they counted the games against boston and NJ, then they might have a case not to let him in, but since those games didnt count this is complete bullshit. |
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I really cant believe Pau got it. He definately doesnt deserve a spot on the West. Considering he only played about half the games for the 1st half of the season. I know coaches made this but what coaches, the whole LAL coaching staff.. I mean geesh cant give one of the purest C's we have in the league a spot yet they give it to a 12+ game under his belt the spot.
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ehh Kaman probably would've embarassed himself out there anyway
Hope this is a sarcastic remark cause Kaman is killer. We all know that. he wouldnt embarrass himself out there. I think he'd do decent. Nothing like a Dwight or Bosh would do with Thunderous dunks but he'll get his points and make his moves. Do a little shake n bake in the post for teh kids out three |
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The Bulls are a .500 team so I don't know how medicore people can call them. People want to ignore it but the Clippers have underachieved badly for yet another season our record is horrible compared to the teams around us hell even all the teams in the East are .500 records. Kaman didn't deserve the selection because even with his numbers he could never dominate a game. As the number one option on the Clippers you better have a 40 pt game at least once when the entire offense is ran threw him.
Saw this coming a mile away and happy he got snubbed because hopefully this will wake his @ss up. Only problem is Marc Gasol should of made it not Paul. It's funny how Kaman's bi^ching about the Lakers bigs espcially Paul backfired right in his face. |
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| I was all on board for the kaman's an allstar movement but after last night no clipper deserves to be even close to an all star game. You can't lose to the nets and expect personal accolades, you just can't. |
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ekker3 wrote:
there's only been 3 true centers this decade that have posted numbers on par with 2010 kaman: shaq, dwight, and alonzo.
exactly why he should have been on the roster. Although I would say Yao has put up nice numbers albeit, injured numbers |
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clipperboy24 wrote:
ekker3 wrote:
there's only been 3 true centers this decade that have posted numbers on par with 2010 kaman: shaq, dwight, and alonzo.
exactly why he should have been on the roster. Although I would say Yao has put up nice numbers albeit, injured numbers
Winning is the thing that holds Kaman back his team is very bad and he has played bad. Marc Gasol is the only guy that I felt got snubbed |
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| i dont understand the marc gasol sympathy. i really like him and i think hes a good player. but really, he's the fourth leading scorer on the team. that team is about randolph, about gay, about mayo. i think gay was more deserving than gasol from that team. also, i think kaman is having a better year than marc. better stats, and hes also the number one option and doesnt have offensive players such as randolph, gay and mayo to support him. kaman is much more important player to his team. |
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| im watching TNT right now, and c webb and barkley really wanted CK in, and kenny didnt and now c webb and charles are ATTACKING kenny smith and they both back up the statement the CK made about gasol not deserving to be an all star. damn somebody from the west team needs to get injured, either gasol, amare, or duncan. gasol and duncan have really high chances of getting injured so lets see what happens =) |
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clipperstown wrote:
im watching TNT right now, and c webb and barkley really wanted CK in, and kenny didnt and now c webb and charles are ATTACKING kenny smith and they both back up the statement the CK made about gasol not deserving to be an all star. damn somebody from the west team needs to get injured, either gasol, amare, or duncan. gasol and duncan have really high chances of getting injured so lets see what happens =)
I was watching that too. Kenny's arguments where pretty dumb. He was comparing them 1v1 "kaman or gasol." |
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Icecoldclipper wrote:
clipperboy24 wrote:
ekker3 wrote:
there's only been 3 true centers this decade that have posted numbers on par with 2010 kaman: shaq, dwight, and alonzo.
exactly why he should have been on the roster. Although I would say Yao has put up nice numbers albeit, injured numbers
Winning is the thing that holds Kaman back his team is very bad and he has played bad. Marc Gasol is the only guy that I felt got snubbed
man you've been kind of bitter all season.no disrepect. |
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Maybe Amare- the starting "center" for the west will get traded this week or next, and kaman can be the replacement. something needs to happen to get him in.
and another question- every year there are a few snubbs- why not let the all star teams be a full 15 man roster- 3 teams of 5- the voted players get to play the 1st and 4th quarters while the other two teams of 5 play the 2nd and 3rd quarters. that way the fans see the people they voted for 2 quarters and the actual, coach voted players get a quarter each. |
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sunnydrew3 wrote:
Maybe Amare- the starting "center" for the west will get traded this week or next, and kaman can be the replacement. something needs to happen to get him in.
and another question- every year there are a few snubbs- why not let the all star teams be a full 15 man roster- 3 teams of 5- the voted players get to play the 1st and 4th quarters while the other two teams of 5 play the 2nd and 3rd quarters. that way the fans see the people they voted for 2 quarters and the actual, coach voted players get a quarter each.
yeah there have been serious rumors about amare fro Jermaine oneil, which means the starting center job is open for CK. |
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Icecoldclipper wrote:
clipperboy24 wrote:
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there's only been 3 true centers this decade that have posted numbers on par with 2010 kaman: shaq, dwight, and alonzo.
exactly why he should have been on the roster. Although I would say Yao has put up nice numbers albeit, injured numbers
Winning is the thing that holds Kaman back his team is very bad and he has played bad. Marc Gasol is the only guy that I felt got snubbed
Basically, 3 or 4 more wins and Kaman might've been in. It's still a shame he didn't make it. |
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for those harping that pau gasol got in over kaman because he helps his team win:
lakers record with gasol: 23-5
lakers record without gasol: 12-6
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spontane wrote:
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there's only been 3 true centers this decade that have posted numbers on par with 2010 kaman: shaq, dwight, and alonzo.
exactly why he should have been on the roster. Although I would say Yao has put up nice numbers albeit, injured numbers
Winning is the thing that holds Kaman back his team is very bad and he has played bad. Marc Gasol is the only guy that I felt got snubbed
man you've been kind of bitter all season.no disrepect.
i agree cuz kaman has made the team look horrendous at times. and in response to his numbers how many touches did he need to get those numbers? i remember Dwight howard only has 10 fg attempts a game to post those numbers while kaman gets what close to 15 a game plus all the foul shots both of them get. Kamans not an all-star o why is he taking so many shots? cuz he's selfish and a big time ball hog |
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-clippers-fyi29-2010jan29,0,6680097 .story
Reporting from Minneapolis - Marcus Camby saw a reporter approach Chris Kaman inside the Target Center on Thursday afternoon and preempted the first question with one of his own.
"Chris, did you make it?" Camby yelled to his Clippers teammate seated across the floor.
Apprised by Kaman that the center had not been selected as an All-Star reserve, Camby uttered an expletive and told Kaman he had been robbed.
Kaman seemed resigned to his fate -- All-Star reserves were announced Thursday -- saying his case for selection by Western Conference coaches was hurt by the Clippers' sub-.500 record.
"I just obviously didn't get enough respect to make it, and I can't really control that," Kaman said. "So now I have to move forward and try to help my team get some more wins and try to be positive about it and just look for the playoff hunt."
Of the three NBA players who average at least 20 points and nine rebounds per game --Kaman, Memphis' Zach Randolph and Toronto's Chris Bosh -- Kaman is the only one who will not play in the All-Star game. Of course, Kaman is also the only one of the three whose team has a losing record. "It's tough when you're not winning games," Kaman said.
Kaman softened his stance on Lakers forward Pau Gasol, who was selected as an All-Star reserve despite missing 17 games because of injuries. Kaman said last week that he didn't think Gasol "should be in it at all" because he had been sidelined for so long. "I said enough there, I don't need to say any more," Kaman said Thursday. "The Lakers are a great team and Pau's a great player and he's an All-Star player. You can't argue with it."
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this is what Kevin Arno-something from clippersblog had to say about Kaman's all star snub
We should recognize his value -- but not with an All-Star bid. Among centers, Kaman is second in the league in usage, but only 14th in PER. His true shooting percentage is 53.9, low-ish for an All-Star candidate. And his rebounding rate is the lowest of his career since his rookie season. Once a premier shot-blocker, Chris is now only 50th in the league in block rate among guys who play 15 minutes per game. |
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Terrible decision by the coaches- I believe the All Star game is about individuals who have performed well thus far in the season. As I said before, Chris' numbers speak for themselves- they are all-star numbers, period. Complaining about his PER, blocks, rebounding rate is nitpicking BS- he is a BETTER player than before. We his increased offensive production to win, and with Camby playing alongside him you can't expect him to get as many rebounds and blocks as in the past.
But hey, what can you do- as Kaman said it's out of his control and he's just going to do the best he can help the Clippers win. This snub is just extra motivation for Chris to become even better. |
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Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 12:33 AM PST
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| I'm okay with Kaman not getting an all-star bid. Yes, he deserves one, but so does Zack and he is on a team with a winning record. The coaches decided to only vote for players on teams with a .500 record or better and im okay with that. As for Pau, better him than Bynum. There was no way that the coaches were gonna let there be only one Laker in the all-star game and I rather Pau get it instead of Bynum. Bynum has been very vocal all year about wanting to play in tha all-star game. Sucker!!! |
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Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 12:33 AM PST
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| this will make kaman play better this season, and i hope he realizes that he has to get a little bit stronger in the off season. the strength will help with both his offense and defense. |
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Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 12:35 AM PST
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checkdafool10 wrote:
this is what Kevin Arno-something from clippersblog had to say about Kaman's all star snub
We should recognize his value -- but not with an All-Star bid. Among centers, Kaman is second in the league in usage, but only 14th in PER. His true shooting percentage is 53.9, low-ish for an All-Star candidate. And his rebounding rate is the lowest of his career since his rookie season. Once a premier shot-blocker, Chris is now only 50th in the league in block rate among guys who play 15 minutes per game.
If this is the case then the other players all ahead of him should play the same amount of minutes. They dont because they cant succeed at that level in as many minutes as Kaman does.
The arguments are futile.
Kaman produces for the Clippers and has produced well. If he had the exact same numbers on the cavs, lakers or celtics, he would be the starting center. Because he is on the clippers even clippers fans hate on him. Its really ridiculous |
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Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 12:36 AM PST
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Clipper 6th Man
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| Hell ya! Get the man some steroids PLEASE! Some Rogaine wouldn't hurt his all star chances either! |
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Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 01:09 AM PST
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clipperboy24 wrote:
checkdafool10 wrote:
this is what Kevin Arno-something from clippersblog had to say about Kaman's all star snub
We should recognize his value -- but not with an All-Star bid. Among centers, Kaman is second in the league in usage, but only 14th in PER. His true shooting percentage is 53.9, low-ish for an All-Star candidate. And his rebounding rate is the lowest of his career since his rookie season. Once a premier shot-blocker, Chris is now only 50th in the league in block rate among guys who play 15 minutes per game.
If this is the case then the other players all ahead of him should play the same amount of minutes. They dont because they cant succeed at that level in as many minutes as Kaman does.
The arguments are futile.
Kaman produces for the Clippers and has produced well. If he had the exact same numbers on the cavs, lakers or celtics, he would be the starting center. Because he is on the clippers even clippers fans hate on him. Its really ridiculous
the only reason he produces is becuz dunleavy keeps insisting on throwing the ball in the post and taking away possesions from everyone else. this is like saying the 2006-07 Kobe was the most productive in his career cuz he scored 50 points at will. well guess what it came at a price cuz his team ended up sucking by the Laker's standards. |
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Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 02:24 AM PST
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checkdafool10 wrote:
this is what Kevin Arno-something from clippersblog had to say about Kaman's all star snub
We should recognize his value -- but not with an All-Star bid. Among centers, Kaman is second in the league in usage, but only 14th in PER. His true shooting percentage is 53.9, low-ish for an All-Star candidate. And his rebounding rate is the lowest of his career since his rookie season. Once a premier shot-blocker, Chris is now only 50th in the league in block rate among guys who play 15 minutes per game.
kevin arnovitz is forgetting that kaman's low rebounding numbers are due to - camby being a rebounding monster theif and that kaman's success with his outside game means that he's not gonna be in position for a rebound. (arvydas sabonis never really had great rebounding numbers for similar reasons) |
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Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 05:55 AM PST
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The man is not an All Star im sorry... An All Star would not be in his position to get punked by other players. An All Star would act like an All Star and carry his team to victory.
Kaman carrries no weight amongst the other All Stars (minus Z Randolph). Gasol is far smarter than Kaman, and has a more developed set of post skills. Kaman just reminds me of a bigger clumsier Gasol - a capable scorer, not an authoritative figure, inconsistent, not a leader, and a huge liability. You cannot put up Kaman in the ranks of Bosh, Duncan and Shaq... And dont try to BS your argument with stats either. All these true All Star centers will and have dominated Kaman upon each encounter.
The man is good, and hes an important peice to our Clipper team, but dont fool yourselves into calling him an All Star. Yes, he has All Star LIKE numbers, but he is no All Star. Those who disagree have a flawed view of an All Star, or a flawed view of Kaman. |
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Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 06:17 AM PST
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david wrote:
Terrible decision by the coaches- I believe the All Star game is about individuals who have performed well thus far in the season. As I said before, Chris' numbers speak for themselves- they are all-star numbers, period. Complaining about his PER, blocks, rebounding rate is nitpicking BS- he is a BETTER player than before. We his increased offensive production to win, and with Camby playing alongside him you can't expect him to get as many rebounds and blocks as in the past.
But hey, what can you do- as Kaman said it's out of his control and he's just going to do the best he can help the Clippers win. This snub is just extra motivation for Chris to become even better.
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Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 06:42 AM PST
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| no surprise here lol |
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Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 10:51 AM PST
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LAC_12 wrote:
The man is not an All Star im sorry... An All Star would not be in his position to get punked by other players. An All Star would act like an All Star and carry his team to victory.
Chris Paul ...CHRIS PAUL!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDjzvJYWtoc
Rudy Fernandez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujDE2yAJpNA
Rondo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujDE2yAJpNA
Baron Davis And 1 Dunk over Pau Gasol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l85W651WVI
Yao Ming Posterizing Pau Gasol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvkPAS266y4
Paul Millsap Dunks Over Pau Gasol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzL0ZhO9ZFQ
I'm sorry, ALL centers have been posterized...ALL.
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Kaman carrries no weight amongst the other All Stars (minus Z Randolph). Gasol is far smarter than Kaman, and has a more developed set of post skills. Kaman just reminds me of a bigger clumsier Gasol - a capable scorer, not an authoritative figure, inconsistent, not a leader, and a huge liability. You cannot put up Kaman in the ranks of Bosh, Duncan and Shaq... And dont try to BS your argument with stats either. All these true All Star centers will and have dominated Kaman upon each encounter.
No, bs'ing an argument is making a statement like this:
"All these true All Star centers will and have dominated Kaman upon each encounter"...and have nothing to back it up.
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The man is good, and hes an important peice to our Clipper team, but dont fool yourselves into calling him an All Star. Yes, he has All Star LIKE numbers, but he is no All Star. Those who disagree have a flawed view of an All Star, or a flawed view of Kaman.
Nope , not getting fooled. Those damn stats mean nothing. Those rankings mean nothing....and please for god's sake, do not listen to people like Barkely or CWebb...they don't know nothing about the NBA.
Oh, the guys you should listen to are the ones from here who said Kaman was going to suck this year...those are the guys that have the insight.  |
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Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 10:54 AM PST
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checkdafool10 wrote:
clipperboy24 wrote:
checkdafool10 wrote:
this is what Kevin Arno-something from clippersblog had to say about Kaman's all star snub
We should recognize his value -- but not with an All-Star bid. Among centers, Kaman is second in the league in usage, but only 14th in PER. His true shooting percentage is 53.9, low-ish for an All-Star candidate. And his rebounding rate is the lowest of his career since his rookie season. Once a premier shot-blocker, Chris is now only 50th in the league in block rate among guys who play 15 minutes per game.
If this is the case then the other players all ahead of him should play the same amount of minutes. They dont because they cant succeed at that level in as many minutes as Kaman does.
The arguments are futile.
Kaman produces for the Clippers and has produced well. If he had the exact same numbers on the cavs, lakers or celtics, he would be the starting center. Because he is on the clippers even clippers fans hate on him. Its really ridiculous
the only reason he produces is becuz dunleavy keeps insisting on throwing the ball in the post and taking away possesions from everyone else. this is like saying the 2006-07 Kobe was the most productive in his career cuz he scored 50 points at will. well guess what it came at a price cuz his team ended up sucking by the Laker's standards.
Behind Craig Smith and Deandre (both of whom cant play consistent starter minutes), Kaman has the best FG % on the team. Why wouldnt you design plays with him if he is shooting the best?
So many of you guys' are pathetic in your attacks. Its a clipper you are ripping on. You are hating on him so hard you make it sound like he is a Faker. Pathetic. |
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Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 11:01 AM PST
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clipper*joe wrote:
LAC_12 wrote:
The man is not an All Star im sorry... An All Star would not be in his position to get punked by other players. An All Star would act like an All Star and carry his team to victory.
Chris Paul ...CHRIS PAUL!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDjzvJYWtoc
Rudy Fernandez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujDE2yAJpNA
Rondo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujDE2yAJpNA
Baron Davis And 1 Dunk over Pau Gasol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l85W651WVI
Yao Ming Posterizing Pau Gasol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvkPAS266y4
Paul Millsap Dunks Over Pau Gasol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzL0ZhO9ZFQ
I'm sorry, ALL centers have been posterized...ALL.
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Kaman carrries no weight amongst the other All Stars (minus Z Randolph). Gasol is far smarter than Kaman, and has a more developed set of post skills. Kaman just reminds me of a bigger clumsier Gasol - a capable scorer, not an authoritative figure, inconsistent, not a leader, and a huge liability. You cannot put up Kaman in the ranks of Bosh, Duncan and Shaq... And dont try to BS your argument with stats either. All these true All Star centers will and have dominated Kaman upon each encounter.
No, bs'ing an argument is making a statement like this:
"All these true All Star centers will and have dominated Kaman upon each encounter"...and have nothing to back it up.
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The man is good, and hes an important peice to our Clipper team, but dont fool yourselves into calling him an All Star. Yes, he has All Star LIKE numbers, but he is no All Star. Those who disagree have a flawed view of an All Star, or a flawed view of Kaman.
Nope , not getting fooled. Those damn stats mean nothing. Those rankings mean nothing....and please for god's sake, do not listen to people like Barkely or CWebb...they don't know nothing about the NBA.
Oh, the guys you should listen to are the ones from here who said Kaman was going to suck this year...those are the guys that have the insight.
Major, Major reppage.
Doesnt get any better than this post! I cant access Youtube to post vids, but i was thinking the same thing.
All the Kaman hate on here makes me sick because it didnt exist until the losses to the Celtics and the Nets.
Everybody has bad games, but as i pointed out in the Nets game, the only dfference between our win and loss against the Nets was the guard play of the nets not the front line.
The Nets front line actually played a nearly identical game, but everyone wants to put the heat on Kaman because he has been a favored target of disgruntled fans for years. |
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Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 01:23 PM PST
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al horford got in as the east's center with 13ppg/9rpg
what are the chances that kaman gets an all-nba spot (1st-3rd team) considering they usually tend to stay true to positions? |
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Posted: Jan 29, 2010 - 02:16 PM PST
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So much negativity towards kaman . Check dwights numbers for every game and tell me is every one of them perfect . His defense might not be the best but it's up to everyone to commit to their man and help kaman when he gets doubled
all players miss shots wheter it's half court or an easy layup kamans just tall not a robot it's unfortunate he isn't an all star but please he didn't lose us any games it's team effort it's not up to kaman to win us every game it's up to ej bdiddy butler and everyone else to chip in |
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