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Who is the first to go? Maybe this thread? These threads are just getting redundant, don't you think? Take Camby out of the equation and it just becomes another Dunleavy thread. OYE VEY!

ummm kaman is on it too 8)

Wasn't when I wrote the post. Either way, why don't we just let everyone go and maybe we can start from scratch. That way, we can start some more threads like this after 6 games and see who else we want to get rid of. roll

or we can talk about summer of 2010 where more talents like BD would love to come "home" roll

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Camby is not a back up center, first of all, second of all it's 9 million a year, almost 10 milllion. But not 13. And no- Dunleavy hasn't been running plays for down low. It seems like the players don't want to run plays, and they're all having 1 on 1 contests. It's more of the players' fault... They can't run offenses, they can't score, and most of all, THEY CAN'T PLAY DEFENSE. That's not Dunleavy's fault. If anything is Dunleavy's fault it's the conditioning they're getting.

what r u talking about. the clippers offense consist of getting a man to the post which takes up 15 seconds to do and then have their outside shooter bail them out when the clock is running out

All I've been seeing is isolations starting at mid range, and ill advised 3's. I wish there was more post play because that is how you find the open man, with some ball movement afterwards.

yeah they dump it on the post and the all got out of the way.

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Keep Camby, get rid of Kaman. Both are injury prone so there are no guarantees, but Camby is much smarter than Kaman and has an overall positive effect on the game.

Kaman, I am sick of him. The only basis that people seem to have are his monster stats from last year. EB wasn't playing, so Kaman got significantly more touches and his stats were padded. It should be clear to everyone now though that he is completely inconsistent, he is a total sissy, and he will never dunk the ball when he should, rather he will attempt a lay-up and infuriate the fans and teammates, he simply does not learn.

Kaman for Gerald Wallace!! Get the Bobcats back on the phones!

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Kaman's stats haven't been too bad this year, even with Camby in the lineup. He's still getting double doubles like last year.

You guys only critisize him because we're losing.

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iam down for gerald wallace. did u see davis expression after kaman blew the lay up on the fast break. mannnnn he was pissed !

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jarca wrote:
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Keep Camby, get rid of Kaman. Both are injury prone so there are no guarantees, but Camby is much smarter than Kaman and has an overall positive effect on the game.

We definitely need some low post scoring... Our wing players was pretty good today though. Yeah, just need more low post scoring.

Kaman, I am sick of him. The only basis that people seem to have are his monster stats from last year. EB wasn't playing, so Kaman got significantly more touches and his stats were padded. It should be clear to everyone now though that he is completely inconsistent, he is a total sissy, and he will never dunk the ball when he should, rather he will attempt a lay-up and infuriate the fans and teammates, he simply does not learn.

Kaman for Gerald Wallace!! Get the Bobcats back on the phones!

iam down for gerald wallace. did u see davis expression after kaman blew the lay up on the fast break. mannnnn he was pissed !

We definitely need some low post scoring... Our wing players was pretty good today though. Yeah, just need more low post scoring.

Yeah... everytime Kaman touches the ball nowadays... I get nervous.

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I'm tired of Kaman missing some gimmies and making the game seem so difficult.

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he makes kwame brown looks like an all star

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Jay.r wrote:
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Keep Camby, get rid of Kaman. Both are injury prone so there are no guarantees, but Camby is much smarter than Kaman and has an overall positive effect on the game.

We definitely need some low post scoring... Our wing players was pretty good today though. Yeah, just need more low post scoring.

Kaman, I am sick of him. The only basis that people seem to have are his monster stats from last year. EB wasn't playing, so Kaman got significantly more touches and his stats were padded. It should be clear to everyone now though that he is completely inconsistent, he is a total sissy, and he will never dunk the ball when he should, rather he will attempt a lay-up and infuriate the fans and teammates, he simply does not learn.

Kaman for Gerald Wallace!! Get the Bobcats back on the phones!

iam down for gerald wallace. did u see davis expression after kaman blew the lay up on the fast break. mannnnn he was pissed !

We definitely need some low post scoring... Our wing players was pretty good today though. Yeah, just need more low post scoring.

Yeah... everytime Kaman touches the ball nowadays... I get nervous.

You me both. I think Kaman is the most nervous though. 8)

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Well there's not much to complain about when you win. If there is any time to criticize, i think it is now while we can still change the team and possibly salvage the season.

And I'm just not that big of a stat guy. I watch the games and get a feel for who is playing well and who is blowing it. 80% of the time I feel like Kaman is blowing it, absolutely disrupting his own team's rhythm. he just seems clueless out there.

The fact is, we have two centers. Let's keep one (Camby), and trade the other for an exciting offensive threat. Kaman on the trading block would turn some heads around in the NBA, we should do whatever we can.

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clipper*joe wrote:
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Keep Camby, get rid of Kaman. Both are injury prone so there are no guarantees, but Camby is much smarter than Kaman and has an overall positive effect on the game.

We definitely need some low post scoring... Our wing players was pretty good today though. Yeah, just need more low post scoring.

Kaman, I am sick of him. The only basis that people seem to have are his monster stats from last year. EB wasn't playing, so Kaman got significantly more touches and his stats were padded. It should be clear to everyone now though that he is completely inconsistent, he is a total sissy, and he will never dunk the ball when he should, rather he will attempt a lay-up and infuriate the fans and teammates, he simply does not learn.

Kaman for Gerald Wallace!! Get the Bobcats back on the phones!

iam down for gerald wallace. did u see davis expression after kaman blew the lay up on the fast break. mannnnn he was pissed !

We definitely need some low post scoring... Our wing players was pretty good today though. Yeah, just need more low post scoring.

Yeah... everytime Kaman touches the ball nowadays... I get nervous.

You me both. I think Kaman is the most nervous though. 8)

Kaman's problem is that he's over thinking...

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Whether it's not thinking or over thinking, he is not very smart on the court. I can't think of any other clipper in history that frustrates me as much as he does.

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clipper*joe wrote:
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Who is the first to go? Maybe this thread? These threads are just getting redundant, don't you think? Take Camby out of the equation and it just becomes another Dunleavy thread. OYE VEY!

ummm kaman is on it too 8)

Wasn't when I wrote the post. Either way, why don't we just let everyone go and maybe we can start from scratch. That way, we can start some more threads like this after 6 games and see who else we want to get rid of. roll

ZING! lol

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As long as Dunleavy is around, Kaman won't be moved.

jarca
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trade dunleavy and kaman lol... has that ever been done? a player n coach deal

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As long as Dunleavy is around, Kaman won't be moved.

trade dunleavy and kaman lol... has that ever been done? a player n coach deal

Lol. It'd work for me; I dislike them both =]

I doubt it's been done, but I can't be sure

sz123456
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I used to think that, but now I'm not so sure. Seeing Dunleavy's reactions to Kaman being a sissy, plus Baron's obvious frustration with him, I wonder if he would consider trading him.

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My first observation is that it looks like Kaman is injured. He could hardly jump during today's game (GSW) and was having a hard time pulling down some of the boards. Not trying to make excuses for him, but he looked a lot slower getting down the court, compared to the first couple of games that he played when Baron came back.

One of Kaman's problems is that he doesn't trust his teammates. I don't think any of the Clips have faith in each other. Kaman ends up dribbling too much and turning the ball over, because he feels like if he passes it back out and reposts, he won't see the ball again. Same goes for Cat, TT, and Al...all three hold the ball way too long which kills our offense.

As far as first to go...let Ricky Davis go. The only thing he's doing is making the team worse and holding back Eric Gordon. If we traded Kaman, would you really like to see Skinner and P Davis logging 30+ minutes a night? They are good back up role players, but not consistent and not good enough to start.

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yeah i should have added ricky there. idk why the coach has all this faith in him. i swear i have never seen dunleavy give someone so many chances in games

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When I watched Kaman today, one thing jumped out at me- this guy has zero confidence right now. I think most of it comes from not being comfortable with the team, because he is making a lot of mistakes in adjusting to the new players. Aside from that I don't really know what it is, as Corgibear8 said, he might be injured, but I think we would of at least heard something about that. He also got mentioned in some trade rumors, who knows if that went to his head or not. Anyways, not to go on and on, but the bottom line to me is he is a guy out on the court playing without confidence, and that definitely brings down a players performance on the court. I think someone needs to push him a bit harder or get him to become more of an attacker when around the basket. That would maybe solve his aggressiveness problems.

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where's sam to yell at kaman lol

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yeah exactly jarca-thats exactly what i mean when i say he needs someone to push him a bit harder

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Well if we traded Kaman, it would definitely be for an effective scoring PF, so those guys wouldn't see any more minutes than they are right now. I think Skinner is a good back-up center and Davis is a decent back-up PF, i think it would work.

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Yeah seriously CJ- merged with the Official Complaining Thread.

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clipper*joe wrote:
jarca wrote:
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Who is the first to go? Maybe this thread? These threads are just getting redundant, don't you think? Take Camby out of the equation and it just becomes another Dunleavy thread. OYE VEY!

ummm kaman is on it too 8)

Well, I just wanna get rid of the fans not wearing Clipper colors or rooting for the Clips. You can't punch them out, so I think people wearing colors for the other teams are relegated to the back rows of the 300 sections in the corners,and not allowed anywhere else,,including the restrooms. And no food, and no beer. And tape across thier mouths.

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You know what I'll bring this argument up a notch since SOME OF US, want Kaman off the team like he's the reason were losing overally, I will be a fellow idiot and vote Baron Davis off the team, better yet lets sign Dan Dikou as a replacement .......geez......And yes Im being sarcastic!

toohipcliptoslip
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I vote to sign David

EI_Nino_Jesus
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I vote to sign Ralph Lawler...you have NOT seen that guy play....

Ralph: Tobe!

*does a spin move and drives to the basket*

Ralph: BINGO!

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clipper*joe wrote:
jarca wrote:
clipper*joe wrote:
Who is the first to go? Maybe this thread? These threads are just getting redundant, don't you think? Take Camby out of the equation and it just becomes another Dunleavy thread. OYE VEY!

ummm kaman is on it too 8)

Wasn't when I wrote the post. Either way, why don't we just let everyone go and maybe we can start from scratch. That way, we can start some more threads like this after 6 games and see who else we want to get rid of. roll

seriously.....fire the coach and trade most of our best players??? i dont get it. sometimes feels like im on an espn or yahoo comments site

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Losing to Memphis certifies the Clippers as the worst team in the NBA.

But the real question is how?

With an elite PG, Baron Davis

All-NBA 1st team rookie , Al Thornton

A former NBA Defensive Player of the Year at PF, Camby

A top 5 Center, Chris Kaman

A 20/10 PF, Zach Randolph

and finally a legitimate 3 pt threat (after years of need), Eric Gordon

This team is 3 and 15. What, 3 and 15?

And now a loss to the Grizzlies with a starting 5 that seemingly would be completely outclassed.

Instead, the Clippers were out rebounded 40 to 25 and trounced of out Memphis.

THe only explanation has to be that the team has quit on Dunleavy. It happens in sports where a coach just needs to move on. Dunleavy is a good coach, yet the time has come for change. He probably would have never thought that bringing Baron to L.A. would cost him his job, but obviously the split exists there. Baron wants freedom to create, while Dunleavy calls plays out. Baron has commented that Dunleavy had more plays than all other teams he has been on combined.

In the end, Dunleavy will atleast coach out the year. Clippers fans will once again be hoping the ping pong balls bounce their way.

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saying Kaman is a top 5 center is a pretty big stretch, and justifying Gordon as a consistent 3pt threat is too early... BUT YOU ARE DEAD ON. COMPLETELY AGREE...

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"again jayr, there are plenty of people, infact probably a heavy majority of basketball fans in general, who still believe TODAY what youre saying about the team years before you were a fan. and they would probably be calling YOU stupid for being a clipper fan and taking the time to post on this site for such a worthless franchise and terrible owner.

cant you see the hypochracy?? come on man, youre better than that..."

This is the last time I'll put an input on the issue. It's not hypocritical of me to support this new era of Clipper basketball because for one, DTS is now actually spending the cash to make this organization better. Sterling actually seems to care now about making this team a contender. We are actually resigning legit veterans and signing good freeagents. Plus he built that state-of-the-art practice facitlity in Playa Vista.

If this was still the same Clippers franchise which was all about taking profits years ago, I guarantee you that I would not be a Clippers fan.

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i understand why you werent a fan then. i wasnt trying to make you a fan of that era. i said its hypocritical for you to call someone STUPID for being a fan of the same organization you now love, just because you werent a fan then or because you feel the team didnt deserve it back then. its ok to be a fan only when YOURE pleased with the organization?? because you dont agree or cant understand why people here were fans back then, that makes them stupid?? sorry i just think thats arrogant...

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duplicate

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WHOA WHOAAAA

Listen ladodgermaniac...

I don't know where you're getting all this from, but we're WAYYYY better than the Thunder okay??? Like third-round knockout better.

So save it with that worst team crap cuz i'm 73% confident that if we played the Thunder 100 times, we would win 51 of those match ups by 5+ points...

... But yeah i agree we're second worst lol... right on

We have to figure out whats wrong, and fast.

If we get to 40 losses fast enough, we could be mathematically eliminated as early as March.

toohipcliptoslip
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You can tell the worst team because it has the worst record. That's how it's defined. If we have a worse record that the Thunder it means we are worse.

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Anyone think maybe Baylor purposely screwed us over for so many years because he wasn't on the Lakers staff?

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Why did the Laker fans cause such a rukus on the night the Lakers won as well as the parade, thats been bothering me for awhile now that they'd allow them to get a parade after performing such reckless events, I was hoping they'd cancel the parade sending out a mesage that you must be respectful and celebrate in a safe and less reckless way, but nope what do they do, they give them the parade and guess what they preformed the same crap again. Go figure, If we perhaps win this year lets show how civilized we are compared to those savages, this is my complaint, thank you.

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This behavior is quite "Common" in Europe. The Brits are notorious. However. as I tell my LAL friends at work, to be a LAL fan you have a hat to be a Clip fan you have to believe. Also, I hate to say it but there are a lot of thugs, cholos etc who are LAL followers, not really fans and they think of a win the same way they think of a successful drive by. They have accomplished nothing in their miserable lives so they try to get a feeling of success vicariously by associating themselves with a glitzy winner. I doubt you'd see anyone with an IQ above room temperature rioting.

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What the heck man. I've had it with this team. I don't even want to watch. Isn't there one player on this team that can hit an open jumper. Heck the reffs even bailed Al Thorton out to help us win and we can't win with the reffs help.

Dunlevy needs to fire himself. He's not a bad coach but the players are not responding. I'm not sure how good are players are anyway. If are best player is Kaman, were in trouble.

Baron you are a disapointment. We should be winning. Maybe we need to look ourselves in the eye and say that maybe we just don't have good players. I even said, are team last year was better if it was healthy because at least z bo can get 20 and 10. We only have Kaman now. Damn.

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BOO YEAH! REPPED!

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yeah if i could -__-

journeyman
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Don't blame Baron tonight. He played great.

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enough of your lies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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baron played well, and remember the team is missing two quality players in gordon and griffin. this isn't a team like the lakers that if they're missing a guy or two, kobe can take over. when guys are hurt, it's hard for the rest to pick it up.

also, dunleavy made some obvious blunders in the game today with his subs/play-calling. in fact, he makes the same mistakes consistently.

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^ X2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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X2 TO CLIPPERSTOWN

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listening to dun's interviews after the losses makes me wanna punch him. he never admits he made a mistake.

david
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Clipperblue- please stop creating new threads that are basically the same thing.

"We suck. The whole team. There all role players no stars."

"We are a team filled with role players and no superstars."

and now:

"What a disapointing team! A bunch of scrubs!"

If you keep ignoring the rules and guidelines then I will be forced to ban you. Thanks for your cooperation.

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clippersblue, just join the game threads. You'll find lots of company there. Clogging the threads is unnecessary.

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