Wasn't when I wrote the post. Either way, why don't we just let everyone go and maybe we can start from scratch. That way, we can start some more threads like this after 6 games and see who else we want to get rid of.

All I've been seeing is isolations starting at mid range, and ill advised 3's. I wish there was more post play because that is how you find the open man, with some ball movement afterwards.

Keep Camby, get rid of Kaman. Both are injury prone so there are no guarantees, but Camby is much smarter than Kaman and has an overall positive effect on the game.

Kaman, I am sick of him. The only basis that people seem to have are his monster stats from last year. EB wasn't playing, so Kaman got significantly more touches and his stats were padded. It should be clear to everyone now though that he is completely inconsistent, he is a total sissy, and he will never dunk the ball when he should, rather he will attempt a lay-up and infuriate the fans and teammates, he simply does not learn.

Kaman for Gerald Wallace!! Get the Bobcats back on the phones!

iam down for gerald wallace. did u see davis expression after kaman blew the lay up on the fast break. mannnnn he was pissed !

I'm tired of Kaman missing some gimmies and making the game seem so difficult.

We definitely need some low post scoring... Our wing players was pretty good today though. Yeah, just need more low post scoring.

Yeah... everytime Kaman touches the ball nowadays... I get nervous.

Kaman's stats haven't been too bad this year, even with Camby in the lineup. He's still getting double doubles like last year.

You guys only critisize him because we're losing.

You me both. I think Kaman is the most nervous though.

Kaman's problem is that he's over thinking...

Wasn't when I wrote the post. Either way, why don't we just let everyone go and maybe we can start from scratch. That way, we can start some more threads like this after 6 games and see who else we want to get rid of.

As long as Dunleavy is around, Kaman won't be moved.

trade dunleavy and kaman lol... has that ever been done? a player n coach deal

As long as Dunleavy is around, Kaman won't be moved.

My first observation is that it looks like Kaman is injured. He could hardly jump during today's game (GSW) and was having a hard time pulling down some of the boards. Not trying to make excuses for him, but he looked a lot slower getting down the court, compared to the first couple of games that he played when Baron came back.

One of Kaman's problems is that he doesn't trust his teammates. I don't think any of the Clips have faith in each other. Kaman ends up dribbling too much and turning the ball over, because he feels like if he passes it back out and reposts, he won't see the ball again. Same goes for Cat, TT, and Al...all three hold the ball way too long which kills our offense.

As far as first to go...let Ricky Davis go. The only thing he's doing is
making the team worse and holding back Eric Gordon. If we traded Kaman, would you really like to see Skinner and P Davis logging 30+ minutes a night? They are good back up role players, but not consistent and not good enough to start.

When I watched Kaman today, one thing jumped out at me- this guy has zero confidence right now. I think most of it comes from not being comfortable with the team, because he is making a lot of mistakes in adjusting to the new players. Aside from that I don't really know what it is, as Corgibear8 said, he might be injured, but I think we would of at least heard something about that. He also got mentioned in some trade rumors, who knows if that went to his head or not. Anyways, not to go on and on, but the bottom line to me is he is a guy out on the court playing without confidence, and that definitely brings down a players performance on the court. I think someone needs to push him a bit harder or get him to become more of an attacker when around the basket. That would maybe solve his aggressiveness problems.

If we traded Kaman, would you really like to see Skinner and P Davis logging 30+ minutes a night? They are good back up role players, but not consistent and not good enough to start.

Who is the first to go? Maybe this thread? These threads are just getting redundant, don't you think? Take Camby out of the equation and it just becomes another Dunleavy thread. OYE VEY!

Wasn't when I wrote the post. Either way, why don't we just let everyone go and maybe we can start from scratch. That way, we can start some more threads like this after 6 games and see who else we want to get rid of.

Wasn't when I wrote the post. Either way, why don't we just let everyone go and maybe we can start from scratch. That way, we can start some more threads like this after 6 games and see who else we want to get rid of.

[quote="Jay.r It's not hypocritical of me to support this new era of Clipper basketball because for one, DTS is now actually spending the cash to make this organization better. Sterling actually seems to care now about making this team a contender. We are actually resigning legit veterans and signing good freeagents. Plus he built that state-of-the-art practice facitlity in Playa Vista.

If this was still the same Clippers franchise which was all about taking profits years ago, I guarantee you that I would not be a Clippers fan.

What the heck man. I've had it with this team. I don't even want to watch. Isn't there one player on this team that can hit an open jumper. Heck the reffs even bailed Al Thorton out to help us win and we can't win with the reffs help.

Dunlevy needs to fire himself. He's not a bad coach but the players are not responding. I'm not sure how good are players are anyway. If are best player is Kaman, were in trouble.

Baron you are a disapointment. We should be winning. Maybe we need to look ourselves in the eye and say that maybe we just don't have good players. I even said, are team last year was better if it was healthy because at least z bo can get 20 and 10. We only have Kaman now. Damn.