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There are some new rumors circulating that the Clippers might be willing to ship Marcus Camby to the Warriors for Al Harrington in straight-up deal. This would potentially help both clubs, but more so help the Warriors. Golden State needs low post help, bad. They are having difficulty getting their great shooters like Jackson and Maggette open looks because there isn’t a dominant force down low except Andris Biedrins, who is great, but not a lane filler. Camby would fit perfectly here, as he would be able to scare off the opposing team from going into....

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Camby is actually our best defender.I would not do that.I would consider mobley though.

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I would jump five feet in the air if they traded Mobley for Harrington. It hasn't just been this year, Mobley is dead weight. He shows up once every 7 or 8 games and shoots lights out, otherwise he does not contribute significantly. From the Warriors perspective, I thought that it would not make sense to bring in Mobley, but we're talking about the Warriors here, they have made so many off-season moves that had no logic behind it whatsoever, we should at least try.

As far as Camby, without any quotes to go with that article, I really question its legitimacy. Especially for someone like Dunleavy who LOVES defensive players, particularly defensive big men, I'd put money down that Camby is his favorite player on the team

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its bad enough that we're already loaded with low FG% players on our team, are mired with the league's worst FG%, get outrebounded by 8 per game (with camby).

now imagine if we take away the defensive key to our system, a rebounding monster, and in return add someone with no defensive reputation, a poor rebounder for his position, and is shooting 32% this year.

BOO.

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That will never happen.

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This is bogus- their "source" is the Bleacher Report which is a fan blogging site Very Happy. But Yeah maybe Tim Thomas for Harrington straight up but heck no not Camby.

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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &cash=

Jason Hart and Tim Thomas for Harrington.Hopefully they wave Hart and we resign him after 30 days.There you go.Only trade I would do other than Mobley for him straight up.

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Hey Clipshow. You think you can post the article? ESPN is blocked at my Job. I dont really know about the harrington trade. All i know is really like Camby. if its Jason Hart and Thim Thomas for Harrington I would probably go with that. It can work since Harrington and Baron played last year. It will alleviate some of the "chemistry" issues thats for sure.

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Sorry bro..LOL I was just messing around with trade machine.. I was just thinking that is something we could offer.Or trade Mobley straight up.It works for both parties involved.At the end of the year they could trade Mobley,or Thomas for some key pieces as they be good trade bait for teams wanting to under the cap...

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haha. it's all good man. I dont think GS would go for Thomas and Mobley. They have way too many swing men as is and Tim Thomas is far from a legit big man. If we give up camby GS he will fit nicely into GS system and that would not help us at all since we are in the same division.

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Thomas would essentially do the same thing Harrington did.IMO That is why I think it works.Mobley is questionable but people are looking for deals to free up cap space for 2010.And Golden state may be able to pull a trade to send one them to New York for David Lee.Especially Thomas who thrived in D'Antonis offense..

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I call for Mobley/Thomas for Harrington and a first round pick.

Mobley is old and is not consistent.....Thomas is great when he has streaks but otherwise is also inconsistent and is injury prone.

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Yeah thomas and harrington are pretty similar players....which means trading camby for him is not smart. i think we just need to let some things play out and see how this first season with 10 new players goes. if mobley and thomas, at the end of the year, were the weak spots, then maybe we trade them. if dunleavy was clearly the problem, then maybe he needs to hire a new coach. we gotta let these news guys have some time though.

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I hope we don't get rid of Thomas. He's not really a burden, he doesn't make that much money and he can really spread the floor. Cuttino Mobley though, huge financial burden is one of the least consistent players of all time.

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We get Camby and after 3 games we are already thinking to trade him???WTF!! It's hilarious but at the same time very sad. It's not serious, it seems like a joke.

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Sometimes the Clippers moves don't make sense...

But if we trade Camby for Harrington, my head will explode

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With all due respect to my fellow citizens, you guys are thinking chump change.

The Lakers were able to turn freakin' Kwame Brown into Pau Gasol.

Kobe was holding the franchise underwater in the offseason. Pau Gasol (and Bynum's quasi-emergence) turned out to be their lifesaver.

They could have given up on Odom for Jermain O'Neil, or given up on Bynum and gotten Jason Kidd. They could've even pulled the trigger on trading Kobe for some Bulls players being offered (Niccioni/Deng/Ben Wallace, etc.)

Instead, they turned a negative asset into a superstar bigman.

A lot of things had to happen for that to go down of course (Kupcheck had to keep his job despite Kobe wanting to oust him; sometimes GM's have to deal with shortsightedness I guess). But the point is, we need to think in those same selfish terms. If Kwame can land Gasol, then I'd want to cash in Mobley/Camby/Thomas for someone really damn good.

Before you argue "yeah but they're the Lakers, not the Clippers" let me stop you right there. Camby (8M) Mobley (9M) and Thomas (6M) represent expiring contracts when Lebron is due to hit free agency. At the very least, by holding on to these contracts, we're getting 23M in cap space for that free agency where supposedly lots of superstars might be up for grabs.

However, if we want to win now, with Baron entering his prime, then we can cash in those contracts. But I would hope for nothing less than a superstar.

Remember, teams are going to want cap space in 2010, possibly enough to unload a talented/pricey player. The Clippers need to take advantage of those teams, not let themselves be taken advantage of.

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I agree with you somewhat...But I will not trade Camby.Not yet, defensively he is the best we have..IMO

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Journeyman. You summed it up right homie. Hit the nail on the head. Clippers hold all the cards. Dont settle.

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I'm up for timmay and Hart or Cat for David Lee. Marbs might be up for the market pretty soon.

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Whoever we bring, we need to make sure he doesn't mind being a slave to Dunleavy's system

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Sam-I-Am sure didn't mind.

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Neither did Brand who admitted he posted his best season under Dunleavy..

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He also played under Dunleavy most of his life...

It was bound to happen

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Did he? I always thought he played for Gentry first? He is not putting those numbers up now...

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No, he posted his best season under Sam Cassell. Sam made life so much easier for Elton.

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Clips should stay away from marbury like the plague.

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Sorry, but Sam Cassell still is not the coach.And Brand said it himself.Do you remember when he said there would be no way he would come back if Dunleavy was not coaching? And if the system was so bad for Maggette he should did turn around and say he would stay here.Even had his agent call the front office.Cassell was the floor leader.Even Sam I am wanted to coach under Dunleavy.Was even thinking about returning to the Clippers this year.

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Well Dunleavy is still coaching but Brand didnt come back. Once again, talk is cheap.

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That has nothing to do with his quote.He admitted his numbers were better when Dunleavy came here...

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If it ain't broke, don't fix it. BD will make Chris an elite player. Except Hart and Taylor, on a good day everyone can pump 15 pts. Camby and Kaman can get 25 boards. Chris CAN hit 20 pts Ricky has made some great passes that were only a step short. What's your problem?

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this is totally off topic but who said we shouldn't go after zach randolph? This guy is throwing unbelievable numbers. Like tonight, 29 points and 19 rebounds thats just crazy.

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You have to consider how many shots they chuck though which means more points and rebounding numbers. You also have to take in the fact that D. Antonni is not a Dunleavy.

Randolph also has some issues: He's selfish, and when he's team is not winning, he strips off the teamwork mentality.

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yea zach is awesome, you can't deny numbers. He is one of like 5 guys who are 20 and 10 guys

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Yeah... Zach is one of those people that are just stat guys... Remember that he had great numbers in Portland but they were losing a lot of games. Almost like Elton Brand when he was here, in my opinion.

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How many 20 10 seasons does Zach have?

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Why would you wanna go out and get a guy with back problems. Harrington's best days are over.

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Here's Randolph's stats... its not much different from Brand

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/zach_rand ... stats.html

The only really big difference is that he doesn't block.

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Jay.r wrote:
clipperAndrew wrote:
yea zach is awesome, you can't deny numbers. He is one of like 5 guys who are 20 and 10 guys

Yeah... Zach is one of those people that are just stat guys... Remember that he had great numbers in Portland but they were losing a lot of games. Almost like Elton Brand when he was here, in my opinion.

Slightly different. Zach is a "blackhole", once you give him the ball, you'll never see it again. Elton was a wuss and was hoping all along that you wouldn't give him the ball because he was so scared all the time

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And I really hope we don't trade Camby, I think he's my favorite Clipper at the moment. He just plays hard. He doesn't mope if the ball isn't going in, just keeps trying, if all our players were like that we'd be 8-0 right now

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