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NUMB3RFIFTY
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Whether or not we're all agree on what the problem is, or how to fix it, we all agree that there IS a problem. Although there has been both constructive and foolish input regarding the team, I think everybody can agree that we need to focus more on salvaging the rest of the season, as opposed to dwelling on the past.

What do you think will help remedy the situation without coaching changes or trades?

I know that's a toughy but in reality, major lineup overhauls and especially coaching changes are rare and although they work in a fantasy setting, these are real people.

teamfiend
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although at times the team looks lost and outright horrible, i think simple downright hustle and harder work(especially on the defensive and rebounding ends), as well as getting their shots to fall at a better percentage will get this team playing competitive every night.

those are the BIG 3 for this team i think...

defense - boards - shot making ability

we see significant improvement in all three and i think well right this ship

Lebron2clips2010
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I think giving Baron more reign on offense, and or blowing up some of the offensive sets for ones with much more movement. Less Iso's, working on rebounding and defensive strategies. I also think getting a clear cut 8-9 man rotation where everyone knows what's expected from them would be beneficial. You want to talk about killing chemistry players are always playing different roles in random rotations. That would also help with Dunleavy's tendency (in my opinion) to be late on his rotations.

FightOnRon
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Rebounds, ball movement/more passing, drive to hoop (not so many way out jump shots) to bring up shooting percentage, more agressive to get other team in foul trouble

mike42
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DEFENSE!

DEFENSE!

DEFENSE!

Lx..
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I think they should forget about their offensive woes and focus on defense. That means only playing guys that are going to be out there hustling and playing hard. Give more minutes to guys like Skinner, Gordon, and p. davis. Enough already with T. Thomas and R. Davis, what defense can you have with those two on the court together they should only see a couple minutes and that’s it. I’d rather see a completely defensive oriented team out there than a supposed scoring lineup that can’t score or play defense. If we lose 84 to 90 so be it at least we’ll know they busted their balls on D and showed heart. Remember, our only win came with skinner, p.davis, and Gordon getting minutes, and in that game the defense and hustle fueled the offense.

corgiBear8
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I agree, Dunleavy has always focused on D, so lets stop giving up 100+ every game. Make every player accountable and give them responsibilities and goals. If they make the same defensive mistakes over and over, put in someone else, even if they are less talented.

On offense, the players have to trust each other and pass to the open man. If a player misses an open shot off of 1-2 good passes I can live with that. Our starters have to take it strong to the basket and get to the line more. Dunleavy should cut his offensive playbook down, so the team can at least be able to execute a few plays efficiently.

Overall, the team has to play harder, hustle more, get back to fundamentals (short passes, boxing out), and play with pride.

Icecoldclipper
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Play Defense and Play Hard.

-We need to play like we did the first game in the preseason tough in your face defense no room to breath and hustle in the passing lanes.

-The NBA just got a lesson in how to beat the Lakers they are still soft we have the bigs to body up thiers if they become tougher. This formula works for a lot of teams in the west because the west our usually showman teams (outside of the spurs and rockets).

-stop being so damn greedy with the ball, make some smart plays PASS THE BALL (yeah I'm looking at you Thorton) create a rhythm on offense

-Baron has to attack the basket more too many times I''ve seen him get to the rim andtry to make the highlight pass. No Need for take it to the basket strong and hope for foul.

-MD lower the number in plays, from the interviews Baron makes it seems MD has 82 playbooks for 82 games.

-Play with energy get in someones face move around hustle don't stand around like stiffs an hope the other teams miss.

-SOLID ROTATION. This is a big factor we need to use Skinner when we need a big body down low who can play physical D.We need Ricky once we have a lead to build on it.Tim Thomas strong and early.

MrB
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I agree with those above me. The defense has got to get better. They need to hustle. They have to box out. I haven't seen much boxing out so far and it involves everyone not just Kaman and Camby. It all starts and ends with defense. The lapses in the 4th quarter all seem to have one commonality. Poor defense and poor rebounding. If we can get that aspect of our game fixed, the wins will come.

clipperstown
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i think better plays. dunleavy SAYS that he wants to run and gun, but he's not CREATING run and gun plays or lineups. A run and gun lineup would be: Baron, Gordon, Ricky davis, Tim thomas, and deandre jordan/ chris kaman/ marcus camby.

NUMB3RFIFTY
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I guess it's unanimous...

Although everybody had a lot of input, defense seems to be the common denominator.

If nothing else, if we play solid defense, i think everything else will fall into place. Stops build confidence and with confidence, shots fall. And when shots fall, teams win; and winning as we all know, heals all wounds.

sunnydrew3
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i agree that if we can start by playing solid defense, things are going be better than they are right now. i also think we need to get things going on offense too. this team has a lot of fire power in my opinion- we have just as many capable scorers as any other team, but for some reason have a hard time breaking 100 unless we are playing a team that isn't known for defense. (see Denver and GS games)

sz123456
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We could score 60 points a game and I wouldn't care as long as we held the other team to 59.

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On Defense

Better rotations: That means hustling to cover the weak side of the ball or cover the open man on screens. We seem to be a little slow to the open man on just about every play. From what I see, that is a very BIG problem.

I also notice that more than one player runs to the open man a bit late and it leaves other players open under the basket or within 10 feet of the basket. This breaks down the defense and out of place to get the rebound.

Rebounding:: We need other players aside from the bigs to get the long rebounds or just help out on the Def & Off rebounds. We should be killing most teams on the boards but it seems our players are relying too much on Kaman & Camby. Baron in his first few games was getting the long boards but I haven't seen him going after them in the last few games. We need players that can step it up.

Kaman: 5th top rebounder in the league

Camby: 7th top rebounder in the league

Why are we still losing out to other teams on the boards?

On offense

Keep it simple...stupid: Let's not add insult to injury by giving this new team an epic novel of plays when they should be reading a chapter at a time. This means that Dunleavy should simplify the offense with a manageable set of plays. Go with what works and simplicity is a good place to start.

Gordon, Gordon, Gordon: I was all for bringing in the rook a minute at a time but I have seen enough of him on both sides of the court that maybe he is the spark plug that we need right now to get us out of this funk. Dunleavy is slowly losing team and his options are slowly dwindling.

Better movement of the ball: This team looks like they like to hold on to the ball too long and then give it up at the worst possible time making it hard for the end receiver to get up a good shot. If you don't know where to go with the ball ( Thornton, Ricky and sometimes TT & Mobley) , get rid of it in time to get off a shot for god's sake! It isn't that hard.

Don't settle: We have resorted to becoming a jump shot team...and not a good one at that. We need Thornton to show us he can finish in the paint. We lost our bread & butter ( Maggette ) and he is the heir to that throne. He needs to be decisive and assertive before his man covers him. This holding off 5 seconds and trying create is killing us.

This shooting 20 fters with 4 seconds left on the clock is not cutting it.

I would like to see more pick & rolls , penetrate and dish out , and plain driving in with authority and dish to a big or just plain make the basket. Variety is the flavor of life and we look like we are on life support.

clipperstown
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the only reason we are losing is cause the off-ball players dont move around. if the players move around, then boom dizzle will find them and hopefully they will have their defender lost or beaten. you have to move around!!its a sport god dang it, not a chess game! lol. every succesful team is active. right now, we are literally just standing there, waiting for something to happen. on occasion, they do this, but only when they are making a comeback and are pumped up. they need to understand that they have to play hard at first, then get pumped up and then everything else will just flow for them.

Jay.r
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They won't move around unless Dunleavy's plays call for it. You know how controlling he is.

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